Pinned
How does a person get to heaven? Answer inside. How does a person get into Heaven?
Here’s what most people say about what gets you into Heaven:
Everyone becomes an angel and goes to heaven when they die.
Whoever obeys the Ten Commandments will go to heaven.
Whoever goes to church will go to heaven.
Whoever does more good things than bad things will go to heaven.
Whoever believes in God will go to heaven.
Whoever has not done anything really bad will go
to heaven, or if their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds.
Everyone in a Christian household will go to heaven.
Well, these statements may SEEM ok, but they are NOT TRUE. None of these will get a person past those pearly gates.
To get into heaven you must:
1. Admit you are a sinner. Romans 3:23 from the Bible says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. That means that EVERYONE has sinned.
2. You must then realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and took your punishment so that you could have eternal life in Heaven.
3. You must now REPENT of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord and to forgive you of all your sins(things you have done wrong). This means that you must totally and sincerely turn from your sins, and simply ask Jesus Christ to be your Savior and Lord and to come into your heart and change it. It doesn’t matter how bad you have been, because Jesus will take you anyway. All you need to do is accept his offer of eternal life.
Here’s a prayer that you can pray if you decide to accept Jesus as Savior:
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
All it takes is faith to accept Jesus as Savior. Faith is simply trusting in Jesus. You trust that your parents will take care of you, right? That’s faith in your parents, however that’s not SAVING faith. That’s just an example of what faith is, so have that same attitude in Jesus. If you sincerely prayed that prayer with all your heart and have accepted Jesus as savior, then just trust that Jesus has forgiven you of your sins and is now your Savior, Friend, and Lord.
Well, you might ask, what if I refuse Jesus’ offer? Well, that’s what I’m going to discuss now.
If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and die without accepting him as Savior, then you will die in your sin, and then there will be no hope for you. Instead of spending eternity in Heaven, a place of pure bliss where everyone is happy and there is no suffering and the streets are made of pure gold, you will go to another place. A terrible place.
A PLACE CALLED HELL!
God originally made Hell for Satan and his band of Demons(Satan and his demons are former angels who turned against God, so God kicked them out of heaven). God never wanted any of us human beings to go there. But, if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation, then Hell is where you will go. God takes no pleasure in this, but this is YOUR CHOICE. You might say “God wouldn’t send anyone to hell”. Well, God doesn’t send you to hell!
YOU SEND YOURSELF TO HELL if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation!
Here’s what Hell is like just incase you’re wondering:
1. HELL IS A REAL PLACE! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN HELL OR NOT! IT’S STILL THERE AND YOU’RE STILL GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT JESUS AS SAVIOR!
2. Hell is a place where you will burn forever and ever in a blazing fire. Your suffering will NEVER end, and it NEVER stops. You will never get even one SECOND of rest from the pain. Revelation 14:11 says that “…and they have no rest day nor night…”, that’s not all of the verse, but it’s stating that you will never get any relief from your torment.
3. You will cry and weep forever and ever over your refusal to accept Jesus as Savior, which will add to the torment since that simple prayer would have saved you from this place of never-ending torment.
4. You won’t even get a DROP OF WATER to ease your pain(Luke 16:24). Nothing. Your pain is NEVER eased. NEVER.
So, there you have it. A description of what Hell will be like if you decide to go there by rejecting Jesus.
DON’T LET THIS CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS SLIP BY!
You might not get another chance! This might be your last chance to accept Jesus as Savior, since you really don’t know when you’re going to die! Don’t think “Well, I’ll just wait until I get older”, because you could die before then! You could even die tonight even! And if you die without Jesus, then you will go to hell. Proverbs 27:1 says “Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.” So, you see, you don’t know if you will have another chance to get saved, so heed this warning now!
Here’s the Salvation Prayer again that I put up earlier that you can pray if you want to accept Jesus as Savior.
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
You must pray in Jesus’ name! If you don’t do that, then the prayer will not reach God’s ears! Sorry, but I’m not the one who makes the rules. This applies to every prayer you pray, not just the Prayer of Salvation! If you pray and don’t say “In Jesus’ name I pray”, then the prayer will not reach the ears of God.
I can’t explain everything, so I will leave you with two good Bible-Based websites to visit if you have internet access:
http://www.bible.com/ (Good website, it has the Bible on here, which you can read, and it also explains a few things).
http://www.amazingbible.org/ (GREAT site about the Bible, has TONS of information about prayer, Jesus, the Bible, and lots of other topics.)
However, you must not rely on these sites alone. You must also find yourself a good Bible-Based Church so that you can be with other Christians. Also, Jesus must be your primary teacher, but these sites can help you a lot in learning more about Jesus and about how to be a good Christian. I, personally, have gotten lots of good information off of these sites. However, these sites do NOT replace Praying and Studying the Bible, so you still have to Pray and Study the Bible, but again, these sites can be used as a HELP, but NOT as your primary source.
Alright, I pray that you will accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord and that those sites will help you in your walk with Jesus, should you accept him as Savior.
May God richly Bless your life.12…89
Pinned
Your views on immigration…
Quote:
He said the British guys he had working for him in the past were not as good as the guys he had now....or as cheap I imagine..
But what do all those Brit guys do now...?
Its getting more and more difficult for them to find work because of the massive amount of Eastern European people coming over here...there should be some sort of limits because the Brits are getting understandably annoyed at it...
What those Brit guys should do now, is either find something else to do, or get better/more reliable at their current job, and make themselves employable... Or they could turn the tables, and go to Eastern Europe...
Whingeing and carrying on about people 'taking' their jobs is a waste of time and energy. 'Their' jobs are not going anywhere, and it's only (IMO) through the thinly disguised fascism exhibited by the daily papers (like the Mail etc) that this view even exists....
Fact is - it's a round world, and a much smaller one since the invention of the aeroplane, and it will only get smaller... So we will have more immigrants in years to come, and need to come to terms with this.
We don't believe in a class/caste system in this country - the general belief that your circumstances at birth do not dictate your possible life choices is one even the most rabid of Mail readers will agree with... So how is being born in another country any different to being born upper/lower/whatever class?
If we believe that people are defined by their actions in life, and that being born poor doesn't make you a lesser person than someone born rich, then that should apply to being born in this country or another...
Most immigrants make a good (and in some cases better) contribution in terms of taxes etc to this country than a lot of people who are born and bred here. If they are willing to work harder, be more reliable, and cost less than Brits, then I for one say fair play to them. Trying to stop them doing so because they might take your job strikes me as another version of bringing others down to make oneself feel better - a life skill that should be left in the school playground where it belongs...12…89
Pinned
Your views on immigration… I'm in favour of reasonably liberal immigration laws, too much foriegn blood in me, to say anything else!
Nice to see that most people try to show a bit of empathy, on this issue. IMHO there are two sorts of legal immigrants, the ones who come because they want to (usually in good order, in terms of jobs, language, finance etc), and those who have little option, for various genuine reasons.
I don't think arriving in a strange country, with a strange language, without resources, and relying on the state for everything, is a barrel of laughs. Anybody who believes that is delusional!
There was a riot at one of the 'detention centres' a while back, sparked when the warders refused to let inmates (people waiting for there case to be decided) watch media coverage of a critical report by government inspectors, on the centre itself.
These people are not criminals, even if their applications are refused, but we treat them with very little respect.12…89
Pinned
Your views on immigration… What are your views on immigration in the UK? Personally, I think we're far too soft. Most countries have a policy in which you can only immigrate to the country if you have skills that are required (for example, a graduate in a needed subject) or if you can take a job that no other British citizen can do. Not in the UK, in the UK, it's easy to get a work visa. I've seen in fast food places, supermarkets, etc, loads of Asian and African immigrants who barely even speak English. They know just enough to do their job. In most countries, for example, France, Germany and other European nations, the citizens wouldn't and don't stand-for-it. I'm one who doesn't stand-for-it either. Also, about 2 years ago, a lot of the Eastern European states joined the European Union. Every single nation in the European Union, but Britian, put a 5 year period on the free movement around the EU policy, basically meaning that citizens of the newly joined EU states can't work and live in another EU country for 5 years, a sort of "intergration" period.
Not in the UK, in the UK they accepted all the new EU member states straight away. And what do we have? Loads of Polish, Romanian, Estonian, etc, immigrants taking unskilled jobs that British citizens can and WOULD do. And don't give me this bollocks that the British citizens don't want the jobs, because I know plenty who would do them, but can't get them because all the positions are taken by Eastern Europeans.
Our overly liberal immigration policy pisses me off, sometimes I wonder if Tony Blair is being paid by the Russian government to destroy Britian - he certainly seems to be making a good job on it.
I wish we could be more like France and Germany and not have to pussy foot around the immigrations, while they treat us like shit.
But when ever I say all this to BRITISH CITIZENS they insult me and call me racist. It's like they're all for this immigration. I blame it on the BBC's liberal brainwashing.12…89
Pinned
Nihilism A common, but misleading, description of nihilism is the 'belief in nothing'. Instead, a far more useful one would substitute 'faith' for 'belief' where faith is defined as the "firm belief in something for which there is no proof." A universal definition of nihilism could then well be the rejection of that which requires faith for salvation or actualization and would span to include anything from theology to secular ideology.
Within nihilism faith and similar values are discarded because they've no absolute, objective substance, they are invalid serving only as yet another exploitable lie never producing any strategically beneficial outcome. Faith is an imperative hazard to group and individual because it compels suspension of reason, critical analysis and common sense.
Nietzsche once said that faith means not wanting to know. Faith is 'don't let those pesky facts get in the way of our political plan or our mystically ordained path to heaven'; faith is 'do what I tell you because I said so'. All things that can't be disproved need faith, utopia needs faith, idealism needs faith, spiritual salvation needs faith.
F*ck faith!123
Pinned
Morality ? I have read some of the news about Steve Irwin's dead..
There is a debate going on..
Should they show the last documentary he was shooting when he died ?123
EU : The clandestine churches of Europe post Reformation Of course today there is much greater religious diversity across Europe, including being able to practise "foreign" religions or none at all (either of those also got you nicked a few centuries ago!) but there are some parallels here with tolerance of some hedonistic lifestyles and drug use/testing, showing it can be tolerated without "the sky falling down"
The 1648 Treaty of Osnabruck, part of the Peace of Westphalia, specified three types of worship: "domestic devotion", public religious services ("exercitium religionis publicum"), and private religious services ("exercitium religionis privatum"). It is into this last category that clandestine churches fall. These churches were characterized by group religious services carried out by clergy "in their own houses or in other houses designated for the purpose," and not "in churches at set hours."[1] Kaplan writes that the pretense of clandestinity "enabled Europeans to accommodate dissent without confronting it directly, to tolerate knowingly what they could not bring themselves to accept fully."[1]
EN : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_church
NL : https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuilkerk
DE : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuilkerk
Do YOU Believe or Not? Hi folks, Now i used to go ghosthunting a couple years ago and have seen some incredible sights. I won't go into it unless you wanna hear some of the stuff i've seen. Now cos of this i have a firm believe in spirits and the afterlife.
My question to you is, Do you believe in Ghosts/Spirits or do you think it's a load of shite.
(Don't anyone turn this into a flame war. Respect each others answers please!) :love:12…78
DE : SilentMOD Lichtinstallation im Kölner Dom The conservatives/traditionalists (mostly from USA) aren't too happy about this, calling it Sin, profanation and all sorts else but it has full approval of the church authorities there. (although the Church of England have allowed redundant churches to have similar arts installations).
I wasn't expecting myself to see such a thing happening in the Kölner Dom! To be fair it seems respectful enough whilst showing off a lot of modern technology (and better than a great deal of modern Christian music!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-lo1XO1hJU
A short documentary from a German Catholic youth site (worth watching even if you don't understand the dialogue just to see the theology prof trying to look like a Berlin hipster :laugh_at:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGQlJbc0GQ
NL : Trimbos harm reduction service *was* indeed set up by a Catholic professor! I'd been curious about the origins of Trimbos for a while (we've been relaying their content for years), even more so since my Dutch improved to the point I can read at least some of their Dutch language content. I'd noticed that the younger folk in NL tended to mistrust it slightly as it works very closely with the govt and national health service, and its advice did indeed often resemble the sort of stuff you'd get from the better Christian led drugs advice centres.
Today I found out why - Professor Kees Trimbos (whom the institute is named after) was the director of the Catholic Mental Health Research Service in Utrecht!
Although he drifted away from the church due to disagreements over the level of tolerance of LGBT communities (which he advocated) and his warnings in 1950s about the risk of sexual abuse within traditionalist Catholic circles were also ignored (he even suggested at Vatican Council II the church should go further and abolish the vows of celibacy required of priests) he did still manage to actually get sex education programmes onto Catholic TV in NL in the 1960s [1]
The alcohol and drugs research institute formed in his name (which is a lot newer, from 1996) is today responsible for nearly all the harm reduction info about MDMA that is available today...
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kees_Trimbos
[1] Dutch public broadcasting law states that every religion is entitled to TV and radio channels with varying levels of state assistance (there is even a channel allocation for atheists but its not in use :laugh_at:)
Resturant owner don’t use toiletpaper for cultural reasons. Not sure where to put this so religion seemed fine.
How can anybody with respect for themself and their customers allow themself doing something like that for religious or culturas reasons.
What a swine
Hope you don't eat there GL
Mahbub Chowdhury, 46, from Swindon, ran the Yeahya Flavour of Asia
Inspectors found bottle in kitchen that was covered in 'faecal matter'
Chef filled it with water from kitchen taps before using it to clean backside
A takeaway chef wiped his bottom using his hands before preparing food because he does not use toilet paper for 'cultural reasons', a court heard.
Mahbub Chowdhury, 46, from Swindon, was found to have a filthy bottle in the kitchen of Yeahya Flavour of Asia, which inspectors concluded was covered in faecal matter.
When questioned, he said he filled the empty milk bottle with water from the kitchen taps before using it to clean his backside after going to the toilet.
Swindon takeaway chef prepared food after wiping his bottom with his bare hands | Daily Mail Online
Reincarnartion Was reading an article about reincarnation
Past Lives: 11 Signs Your Soul Has Reincarnated Many Times | TruthTheory
Got me curious to find out about who could have reincarinated from who.
Guess who's born a years time after Hitler died.
I'm starting to believe this shit :omg_wtf:
UK : "Piggy" Cameron bashed by bishops for ignoring C of E offers of help to refugees Although I've mocked the C of E in my area for being "Tesco Value Catholics" before; they do deserve credit where it is due - they have actually stopped this region from kicking off over religious arguments more than once in recent times; have even helped a local drum and bass crew get an event venue, and one of their vicars runs a particularly good site about traditional pipe organs in East Anglia...
Syria refugees: Bishops urge David Cameron to do more - BBC News
Don’t mock the bald dude – or God will set *she bears* on you! they were also talking about bears on RMNL; and vaguely recalled these animals got mentioned in the Bible quite a bit.
Bears turn up in just about every religion, not surprising as they are big and scare people. Religious folk (who were in many ancient times also the first zoologists) often suggest it is best to keep on the right side of them at least until you end up in the afterlife; where they (as well as tigers, lions etc) are supposed to live in peace with you.
I had forgotten exactly where they were mentioned in the Bible so decided to search out of curiosity (it doesn't seem to be a coincidence that the more religious European countries tend to be monitoring the movements of bears in the 21st century).
They did not teach me this in junior school - it might have been viewed as too scary even by 1970s/80s standards and there was more Angst over child safeguarding in male dominated institutions (not just faith groups either) than bears - modern translations now make it clear the "kids" were teenagers/young adult men who only got "slightly clawed up"; and they were old enough to know they should behave better.
Elisa (who is male although the name sounds androgynous) was already supposed to be walking up to Heaven because the Holy Ghost has let in a hole in the Firmament. Weather is also supposed to appear via this hole; so he would have to walk though a storm wind (of the kind that Germans announce with "strongwind stormwarning") so he must quite rightly been very cross with 42 lads taking the mick as well as wind blowing down on his bald head. It appears hats were not invented back then.
I am not sure myself why why he was walking from Bethel to Heaven; maybe he was looking after the bears for some deity (Bears would be equally likely to wander between afterlifes of different religions the same as they regularly cross national borders on Earth).
Catholics would eventually let the 42 knaves into Heaven; but only after they had repented their sins in Purgatory, been made to clean the woods and cleared up every last bit of bear crap into 25 kilo sacks and weighed the lot in with all the Popes (264) currently in Heaven checking they haven't missed any of it. (they'd still have to be nice to Elisa, as the bears would be in Heaven with him...)
23 He went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” 24 And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys.
Vanuit daar ging hij naar Betel. Toen hij de weg naar de stad opklom, kwamen er jongens uit de stad die hem spottend toeriepen: ‘Klimmen maar, kaalkop! Klimmen maar, kaalkop!’ lisa keerde zich om en toen hij de jongens zag, vervloekte hij ze met de naam van de heer. Onmiddellijk kwamen er twee berinnen uit het bos, die tweeënveertig van die jongens verscheurden.
23 Und er ging von dort hinaufnach Bethel. Als er nun den Weg hinaufging, kamen kleine Knaben zur Stadt hinaus; die verspotteten ihn und riefen ihm zu: Kahlkopf, komm herauf! Kahlkopf, komm herauf! 24 Da wandte er sich um, und als er sie sah, fluchte er ihnen im Namen des Herrn. Da kamen zwei Bären aus dem Wald und zerrissen 42 Kinder.
23 Il monta de là à Béthel; et comme il cheminait à la montée, des adolescents sortirent de la ville, et se moquèrent de lui. Ils lui disaient: Monte, chauve! monte, chauve! 24 Il se retourna pour les regarder, et il les maudit au nom de l’Eternel. Alors deux ours sortirent de la forêt, et déchirèrent quarante-deux de ces adolescents[.
Natural magnetic flux may cause religious and spirtual experiences It's quite a long video but very interesting in terms of trying to find answers to odd experiences.
05 James Borg on remote viewing, psychic abilities, telepathy and spiritual teachers - YouTube
Includes some fascinating photos of "engineering anomalies", ie miracles.
The Beast Revelation The Beast Revelation
This letter is dedicated to all Christians.
The following letter is a summary of Revelation 13. Its purpose is to show the method used in finding the conclusions which have been stated. Nothing new has been added from my previous letters. It is more of a compilation of them all. This writing is the same material in different words. The Bible uses this same method of explanation. There are four Gospels. In each you see a different view of the same material. This can be beneficial because the meaning becomes more exact. Although, if this is a first time reader, then this will all be news to you. With that in mind, here we go.
The first thing that should be addressed when doing any study of Bible prophecy is what questions do I intend to answer. Some of these questions can seem a little simplistic, but their answers are much more complicated. In my studies there were only a few questions that I saw as needing an answer. My questions were very simple. First, who is this individual who is identified by the number 666? Second, who is the false prophet and how does he make the whole world worship the beast whose number is 666. Another question has to do with these same individuals. Could these two individuals be the same person, or for that matter Satan himself? Where is Satan during all this? That last question is very important. It actually goes straight to the answer of all the questions. Finally, when would someone expect to see these individuals on the Earth? Literally, what time frame should I see them? Those are the questions. The answers are much more involved.
This narrative will attempt to show how the answers are figured out. These answers can be seen from events that happen in the nightly news. This leads me to a key, which most of us know, but most of us forget. The Bible is a history book. Some events have happened, while some are waiting to happen. It is the ones that have not happened that we are most concerned with. Here is another key. By the way, these keys I speak of are keys to understanding. The Lord spoke in parables. The reason he gave was that it was for some to know the mysteries of God, while it was for some to know not. In hearing, they do not hear. In seeing, they do not see. I compare it to telling the truth, while hiding it at the same time. Many of the parables that the Lord spoke he immediately gave an answer to. He showed how he used certain symbols and words to describe subjects and then gave their meanings. Now for the punch line. The Lord also spoke in parables that he did not identify. These parables go straight to the hidden meaning of these end times. Another key is word substitution. An example of this is a pretty well-known item from Revelation. This word substitution deals with Revelation 13:1. The beast has seven heads and ten horns. In Revelation 17 those heads and horns are defined. The heads are identified as mountains, while the horns are identified as kings. This changes the whole picture of what the beast is symbolically to what it is literally. Now Rev.13:1 can be read as follows with just the items discussed thus far. And I saw a beast rise up out of the sea having seven mountains and ten kings. That is a simple and easy word substitution. Know that this will happen many times throughout the Bible.
Now, getting back to the questions. The question is, where is Satan? If this question can be answered, you can eliminate some others. Some prophecy teachers believe that Satan is the beast, or that Satan is the false prophet. This interpretation is misleading, and it also creates a stumbling block in the path to a proper interpretation. I almost always get this question. How can you know who the beast is when he cannot be revealed? 2nd Thess. Chapter 2 states that he cannot be revealed, until something is removed first. Most scholars have this part right. That is a picture of the Rapture. What they have wrong is that Satan and the beast are not the same individual. Satan cannot be revealed until after the rapture, but he is not the beast. Therefore, I can identify the beast and his false prophet. People say prove it. So I did. I told them how to understand using the keys that I have mentioned. Revelation 13 is a parable, but God is not giving the definition, or the explanation. This one is for us to figure out. Ok, so where is Satan? In the book of Job, we get a view of Satan's abilities. In one scene, he is discussing with God about Job. Question, where is God? He is in heaven. Also, in his conversation with God Satan is talking as if he knows and has seen Job. God declares that he can do whatever he wants to Job, but he was not allowed to kill him. Now we know something else about Satan. He also has access to the Earth, and can affect peoples lives. So, it appears that Satan can be everywhere he wants to be, on Earth or in heaven. We know Satan and his angels will be cast out of heaven as per Revelation 12. This would further the idea that he is now in heaven. We also see Satan one other time, when he tempted Christ during his time on Earth. It says that he was taken to the wilderness to be tempted of Satan? Most people, and rightly so, have thought the wilderness to be a place on Earth, but this is a parable I believe. The Lord was in the wilderness and was tempted by Satan, but the wilderness is in heaven. This parable is read in Isaiah 35. It is the wilderness and the solitary place where the redeemed of the Lord walk. So, this last item being the most hard to prove, suffice it to say, that when Rev.12 says Satan will be cast out, he must be there in heaven to be cast out. Alright, now we can answer a couple questions. One, Satan is himself, and he is in heaven. Therefore, he is not the beast or the false prophet. These three work together, but each has his own identity.
Now to dissect Revelation 13. As I have already stated, Revelation 13 is a word substitution parable. The seven heads are seven mountains and the ten horns are ten kings. Ok, we know from this description that the beast as described is a group of possibly ten countries. This brings me to another point. There are three definitions for the beast in Revelation 13. The first is a group of countries rising up out of the sea. The second is in Rev.13:11 and is a beast with two horns (kings). Remember horns are kings as per Rev. 17. Finally, there is a beast who is identified by the number 666. It is this last beast that causes all to receive a mark and that no man can buy and sell save he who has the mark, his number, or his name. There are three items here. Nowhere does it say that the mark is the number 666. This might have been a good guess 20 yrs. ago , but it is pretty hard to believe. Imagine people running around with a mark of 666 on their right hands. It sounds like a cartoon, but this is what the prophecy teachers want you to believe. Ok, another problem that sounds like a cartoon is the interpretation of the word "all." They want you to believe that no man could buy or sell if they did not worship the beast and take his mark. Interpreting the word "all" to mean everyone in the world. This is not the case. For one, we know that the beast is made up of only possibly ten countries. Everyone in this world lives in roughly 190 countries. I don't think we could possibly mean everyone. How about, all of those people concerned with the mark. Also, how do you cause all people concerned to receive a mark, and why? The most obvious way to mark everyone is at the voting booth. All people, rich and poor, small and great, or free and bond are potential voters. So, Mahmoud Abbas was elected president of the Palestinian Authority, and in the process all voters received an indelible ink mark on their right hands. This mark was to prevent double voting and corruption in the election. Ok, we have a mark. It is not 666. At this point he fits the part, but not completely. Still, there is no ready identification of 666 concerning him. This election was in January 2005.
Back to Rev.13. We have seven mountains and ten kings. Prophecy teachers want us to believe that a city with seven mountains is the seat of the antichrist and he rules with ten nations. Their logical conclusion was the Europe Union and the Vatican. This started the revived Roman empire theory. This theory has been around since the reformation. It is hard to believe this charade has gone on so long. Teachers are still preaching the Revived Roman Empire. This theory had some validity before the twentieth century and now has to be eliminated. None of these teachers could have predicted the fall of the Ottoman Empire and its division into so many separate sovereign nations. Back to our word substitution. There is an interesting item here concerning the word mountains in scripture. The word mountains can have two meanings. It can be either a mountain range, or a nation. This is the hardest part of this whole exercise, trying to figure out what mountains are describing. Teachers will have you believe it is a city with seven mountains. In actual fact, mountains here are referring to nations. This also pertains to the head wound. The wound was not a literal head wound at all, but was a nation that was wounded. The beast's head or nation was wounded and was healed. This is the Palestinian Authority after the beginning of the Oslo Accords. The land that Israel possessed was now being given back to the Palestinians and the beast's nation is being healed. Ok, so now I have seven nations and ten kings, Rev.13:1. Why do I have three more kings than nations? It seems I have a king for each nation, but three left over. In Daniel in says the beast subdued three kings. These three kings don't necessarily have to be from different countries. It seems so, but is not expressly mentioned. It is another parable. The three kings who were subdued by the beast were Israeli Prime Ministers. These three Prime Ministers all served during the seven years of the Oslo Accords and were voted out of office because of terror perpetrated during Yasser Arafat's rule. Now, I am down to seven nations. These seven nations will wage war. I can easily see seven nations that will wage war here very soon; Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iran and the Palestinian Authority or Iraq, and there opponent Israel. This is exactly the same beast that is presented in Rev.17:10, just in a slightly different appearance. There are seven kings, five are fallen. This means five kings were defeated in war. Israel is referred to the "one that is," and the one that came later is the Palestinian Authority. This is a description of Israel's war for Independence. Literally, this was the beast being born. The war in 1967 is the beast rising up out of the sea in Rev.13:1. It was the unresolved issues of this conflict that resulted in the Oslo Accords of 1993. This seven year peace treaty was confirmed by Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat.
Now, there is another beast in Rev.13:11. This beast has two horns or kings. This is a picture of the Palestinian Authority after the elections of January 2006. This is when Hamas ran in the elections and won a majority in parliament. Now the P.A. was a country with two kings. Abbas was the President and Ismail Haniyeh was the Prime Minister. Here is where the problem with money came about. Western Nations did not want to donate money to a known terrorist organization so looked for a way they could still fund Abbas's P.A., but not let any money get to Hamas. This is when the number 666 identified an individual. The temporary international mechanism was adopted on June 16, 2006. This program allowed Western Nations to donate funds directly to Abbas, while bypassing Hamas. If you were a member of Fatah, or on Abbas's payroll you got paid. This is how the people were allowed to buy and sell. They received salaries, whereas before the mechanism, they had no way of getting paid from the Government. Hamas did not receive salaries. Also, Hamas did not receive the mark of the beast. They boycotted the elections for President in Jan. 2005.
It is more obvious who is being talked about the closer you get to the end.
In conclusion, to my three beast definitions. Mahmoud Abbas fits all three definitions. He was a member of the P.A. when it was formed. He took over from Yasser Arafat after his death. He was one of the two kings of the second beast in Rev.13:11. Lastly, he is the one identified by the number 666, which could have been Arafat had he lived.
Now, concerning the the false prophet. The following four verses below all refer to the false prophet, Ismail Haniyeh.
Rev.13:11- and I beheld another beast coming up out of the Earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev.13:12- And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein, to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev.13:13- "And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the Earth in the sight of men".
Rev.13:15- And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast, should be killed.
Hamas exercised all the power of the first beast (Abbas's P.A.) because they were now an equal partner in the Government. Also, the leader of Hamas caused them to worship or honor the first beast because Hamas would not honor the first beast. The first beast was the PA without Hamas as a member. The image of the beast is what the Government of Mahmoud Abbas represented. Verse 12 does not mention the image yet, we are just informed that the false prophet caused them to worship the first beast. Verse 14 and 15 gives the details of how that worshipping or honor was to commence. An image was created of the first beast that he (the false prophet) caused to be honored. This image of the beast is three items; the recognition of Israel, the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and a renunciation of terror.
The last question I think that needs addressed is how do you know the timing is right? Meaning, there have been so many translations, how do you know that this one is correct? This is a question I always get asked. The answer, in my mind, is sort of a mix between two different prophecies. The first is the seven day prophecy as recorded in Genesis. It is a similtude between this and the amount of recorded time that has already happened on Earth. In the book of Peter, God says one day to him is as a thousand years. If that idea is applied to the Genesis creation, everyday that God created something one thousand years passed. Finally, on the last day he rested from his work, and his rest was one thousand years or one of God's days. This was one full week or 7000 years. After God's rest he started his work again, and he created Adam. Starting with Adam, it was approximately 4000 years to the time of Christ. Also, we know that Christ was here roughly 2000 years ago. If God was to be consistent with his one week schedule, then we could expect his day of rest to fall somewhere after the year two thousand. 4000 plus 2000 is six days and on the seventh he rested for one thousand years. This is not an exact estimate, but it can put you in the right ballpark when searching for the correct timing of Revelation. This is the estimate. The next item is more exact. Daniel 9:27 says that he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Many in Hebrew is Rab. This was a covenant confirmed with Yitzhak Rabin. It was the beginning of land for peace, or the Oslo Accords. When you see this agreement happen you should be aware that this prophecy will last seven years. There is only one problem with this item. Prior to it happening, everyone thought that the end of the seventh year of the agreement God would return and begin his rest. Well, that did not happen. The reason was a logical misinterpretation. It just mentions that this agreement must occur along with the prophecies mentioned, not that they would all happen and end on the last day of the seventh year. This has thrown everyone watching off-course for a time. Although, this was not such a terrible mistake if the watcher could see the right answer and get his, or her perspective back. When you have these two items coinciding at the expected time, then you know Revelation can be interpreted with accuracy. The events should start happening, as they have, as I have recorded in this letter.
May God bless all who read this letter.
Michael
We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it.YesNoPrivacy policy
You can revoke your consent any time using the Revoke consent button.Revoke cookies
