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February 26, 2005 at 12:30 pm

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Hey guys i just signed up like 20mins ago so im really new here.

I’m also new to drugs, from memory Ive taken drugs 3 times so far.

My mate got annoyed at me coz on my 3rd time I had 2 pills all together, first I had half a “Green Mitsubishi”, then Whole “Blue Dove” or Blue Motorola (even though the pill was white), then half an “Orange Dove”. I cant really rememmber what they where called…

I’m not to exact on the last one, because the picture on it looked more like a motorola but when i took it, it took about 1 hour to kick in because my last pill wore off about 3-4 hrs before, then the next day i felt like shit.

I’ve heard about “Come-Downs” but i didnt think that the ones I was taking had these effects and I was annoyed because the guy who was supplying me pulled a shifty on me.

So now im thinking maybe I should stick wih the Green Mitsubishis or RED RUSSIANs.

I haven’t seen many posts about red russians, so could I get a little info on them…

Also if u have pics of the Orange Motorolas / Doves or Blue Motorolas /Doves could you please post them so I can tell which one was which….

Thanks!
February 26, 2005 at 3:02 pm

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elretardo87

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as far as i can tell these are all just ecstasy tablets and theres very little you can do to make sure you only get one type of pill…basically as long as your getting exstasy tablets in some form or another the dealer isn’t really pulling a shifty one….unless you asked for something else. Finally all pills give you comedowns its just the more you take, the longer you’ve been doing it and how careful you’ve been (drinking water etc) that defines how ill youll feel.
February 27, 2005 at 4:01 am

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so how much water would u have to drink, and what other thinks would contribute to as u said “being careful”….

as i said i had 2 for my third time, and i was drinking heaps of water…. but the next day i felt like crap, worste ive ever felt even after drinking HEAPS….

i htought its the type of drug that gives u come down…. coz i had the others and nothing bad happend…. without dri9nking anywater…. maybe taking E then drinking HEAPS of alcohol – getting BLIND? would that help being blind after peaking….? coz i nevre had come down after that… just kept on having fun….

THanks
February 27, 2005 at 7:29 am

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if you really want to know what you’re doin, follow the link…

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

all will be revealed.
February 27, 2005 at 7:29 pm

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elretardo87

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Nooosh wrote:

i htought its the type of drug that gives u come down.

cant comment on the being careful thing especially not after this weekend but the name of the tablet does not mean it is a different drug all the pills are the same drug just different packaging basically.
September 9, 2005 at 2:17 pm

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shaolin punk

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Just thought I’d put out a warning not to waste your money on the ‘Shrek 2’ pills going about Belfast at the minute. I took 10 of them to the Electric Picnic last weekend and came back with most of them. They were so spacey I actually preferred to be straight than to take them. All you get is a feeling like someone is pushing down on your shoulders and head and an overwhelming urge to stop talking and retreat from other people. They werent even trippy which would’ve made up for it, I just felt that it was a supreme effort even to have a conversation with anybody. Didn’t even get loved up, I spent most of the hit feeling paranoid and grumpy. AVOID AT ALL COSTS (unless you like hating your friends).
September 10, 2005 at 7:25 pm

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Schmark

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made with smack

blates
September 12, 2005 at 8:55 am

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shaolin punk

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Schmark wrote:

made with smack

blates

Nah mate I dont buy that. I personally find it difficult to believe that someone would use a product that they could sell at £20-40 a gram as a cutting agent for something that sells for £3. The guy who sold me them told me they were dipped in acid. Bullshit. Different types of pills come from different forms of MDMA. Trippy spacey pills have more MDA in them.
September 12, 2005 at 9:18 am

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shaolin punk wrote:

Nah mate I dont buy that. I personally find it difficult to believe that someone would use a product that they could sell at £20-40 a gram as a cutting agent for something that sells for £3. The guy who sold me them told me they were dipped in acid. Bullshit. Different types of pills come from different forms of MDMA. Trippy spacey pills have more MDA in them.

or k, thats fucking cheap. well before i decided to give k a try, i had been fed a few proper rubbish pills with it in. cannot understand why anyone would do that shit at a rave..

slightly less shit pills are likely to have mdma’s cousins, mda mdea or mde as shaolin mentioned. they arent generally that bad, but not nearly as great as the proper shit.
September 12, 2005 at 1:46 pm

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shaolin punk

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Yeah k may be cheap to make, but it retails for £20-25 a gram which is too much potential profit to go wasting on cheap pills. Pills can be cut with anything- rat poison gives you rushes similar to amphetamine, and at £1-99 for 100grams its a hell of a lot cheaper. Most coke in Belfast is cut with baby teething powder. This causes numbness which many people use as a gauge of good coke.
September 12, 2005 at 2:16 pm

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richie6

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the people who produce the pills are not the chemists who synthesize the m.d.m.a.
90% of a pill is just a load of crap used make up the size.
almost all pills i’ve ever taken taste exactly the same – the taste of a pill is just the inert crap used to make up the size.
imagine that you were producing pills, you could be tight with the mdma, and then use something cheaper like ketamine to make up for it – the pills would be just as crazy, but you could be profiting an extra £20,000 of a batch (depending on the size of the batch). if you were to use something like coke, then it wouldnt be logical because you would be ripping yourself off.
smack probably costs £120 a gram, which might seem expensive but in comparison with the amount of moneys worth you need to take, its actually cheaper than mdma. if you used a small amount,(this is just an idea) and combined the antidotes (mda/speed/mdma) with something like dextrose or even aspirin, the pills would ‘work’ just as well, and the pills can be sold cheaper.
ive seen people taking 20 pills in a night (decent pills) – how much grams/mg of mdma/mda would there be in a pill for somebody to be able to take 20 and still be alive?
if you drunk 70ml methadone, it would be enough to kill you but there is a method used in hospitals which is especially for overdoses on downers – as the drug is ingested into the persons system, injections of an antidote upper like dexamphetamine, combined with dextrose are given to control the blood pressure and stop it falling to a dangerous level.

http://www.mdma.net/ – this site tells the whole history of mdma, and reviews by the chemist who invented it (dr shulgin) taking different doses of pure mdma. the site also has information from surveys on what the pills in clubs these days contain
September 12, 2005 at 10:58 pm

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elretardo87

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It was on the news man….I think it was yabba that was in them.
September 13, 2005 at 12:33 pm

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richie6

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i found a website which answers all the questions

http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?A=List&OldSort=DPD&NewSort=&Start=0&Max=25

it’s a website where people send in their pills to get them tested and then the results get put up on the chart – it has been around for years and has even got test results on the ‘doves’ from back in 1996. its interesting to see what has been in the pills that you’ve been taking, a lot of pills this year have either been pure mdma or a mixture of mdma, caffeine and methamphetamine – in january this year, the pills were mostly mda/mdma. there was 1 really shit pill called a ‘motorola’ that only contained aspirin, fluoxetine and a small amount of heroin. the ‘rolex’s that were around 2 years ago which have got a picture of a crown were made from 100% methamphetamine
i came across the first pill i ever did – an ‘igloo’ which was in 2002.
September 13, 2005 at 4:42 pm

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elretardo87

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Watch out because not all pills with the same logo are the same…quality can vary substantially even within the same batch. As well as that its fairly common to find that if one type of pill is popular then everyone makes them and the quality varies even more.
September 13, 2005 at 9:12 pm

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General Lighting

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richie6 wrote:

i found a website which answers all the questions

http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?A=List&OldSort=DPD&NewSort=&Start=0&Max=25

it’s a website where people send in their pills to get them tested and then the results get put up on the chart – it has been around for years and has even got test results on the ‘doves’ from back in 1996.

this site is American.

It may be of value to our American users, but I doubt the results can be applied to Europe.

America has far more control on drugs than Europe and the risks are way higher (like legal raves being busted up by SWAT teams!), which means people are more likely to try and increase their profits by cutting stuff

I do agree though that the amount of MDMA in pills has decreased since the old skool days – as richie says, some people are right caners and they would be dead by now if they were getting pills of the strength that was about in 1991/2…

AFAIK the only “rat poison” that could concievably be used as a stimulant is strychnine. the other rodenticides (difenacoum/bromodialone) do not cause any nervous system reactions but remove the ability for the blood to clot, causing death by internal bleeding. (these substances are more dangerous to humans than rats these days as rats in many areas have become resistant!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strychnine

in mainland Britain the use of strychinine is heavily controlled – its use is now only permitted for the control of moles under license – dead rodents containing residues of such a strong poison are a severe hazard to pets, livestock and wild animals alike.

The substance itself has to be obtained from authorised dealers and sales are monitored; it was once common on farms and more readily available in pharmacies but too many people used it to dispose of unwanted relatives; particularly estranged partners and the disabled in pre-NHS days.

It has occasionally been used as a recreational stimulant but the stimulant dose and the lethal dose are so close its way too dangerous – its shocking that this stuff is turning up in pills in this day and age.

It does not however turn up in LSD. Thats an urban myth…
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