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How do you make a pill? would you bake it?
Pill press….compresses all the shit together makin a loverly round pill of cyanide, talcum powder, flour an a wee bitty MaDMAn.
so a pill press huh,…i guess you would just get allt he stuff thats in E and press it all together, am i right? but is that all you do, press it? wouldnt you have ot bake it or somthing?
edit* how would you make a liquid a pill?
you need a bonding agent, i beleive, which is why pills are cut (or why they have to be at any rate).
the easiest thing to do is buy a load of empty gelatin capsules and fill them with your favorite substances.
any pill you get is 80% weigh powder. makin E isn’t that easy. I had access to a pill press, had the weigh powder, but i’ll be damned, you gotta have a lab and a chemistry degree, or a good mentor to make up some MDMA or MDA, that shit isn’t easy to make. I was sad.
haha bake them its not a cake m8 😛 by the way to make then you require alot of chemistry skills mostly only like chemistry students etc bother and alot of nasty household chemicals and stuff you would not like to touch m8 so best leave it to the pros eh :cloud9:
when i make my pills…. ( TK’s.. probably havent heard of them more of a Central Coast Australia pill.. comes in varietis.. and colours for each different type.) i get pure MDMA made.. which to me isnt that hard.. but hey bit of study doesnt hurt.. i didnt know any chemistry all you need is to get the chemicals together.. which was a bit of a mission but i did it.. and read the instrucitons the only thing that will confuse you is thew chemical names…. when pure MDMA is made it turns out a white crystaley powder.. you get the amount in MG’s of MDMA you want in a pill.. and my base is “Corn Starch” it is a white powder you can buy from anywhere that when pushed together forms a hard ball.. So cutting it with MDMA when put in a press hold the press for 30 seconds.. whenj the 30 seconds is up .. check yah pill.. should look like one ud by off the streets… if your making your own TYPE of pill with brand name etc liek mine ( TK imprintd in them…) Then get a pill press made for you or make your own.. .. BY the wayif your wondering why i named them TK.. it stands for me BMX/SK8 and Fast 50 crew im in.. haha .. make money!! make money money money!!
TK, How do you make a press?
You can make pills by using a TDP. I got hold of one a couple of months ago to make herbal tablets.
First you need to calculate the amount of active ingredient in my case 0.1g. I the filled my press with the binding agents I was going to use and ran a test I calculated the mass of the pill and there for how much active ingredient I needed to mix with my bulking agent. In an 8mm Pill, 4mm deep this was a ratio of 1 part active ingredient to 3 parts biding agent. You can work this out for you own active ingredient/ size of pill, by also doing a little trial and error.
1)Make a mix of say 1:1 ratio and make a test pill.
2)Weigh the pill and divide the weight by the ratio
3)This will tell you the amount of active ingredient in the pill
4)Repeat steps 1-3 adjusting the ratio until desired amount is achieved
One of the hardest things I found was to get the pill to stay together. I got a TDP 1.5, I think if I had gone for the 5 I would have had better pills. I used a good binding agent but I am shore there are better ones out there.
If anyone knows the name of one please hit me back!
@schaefer371 14090 wrote:
How do you make a pill?
Well now this is a fine question to ask and I shall do my best to answer it.
What happens is a mummy pill and a daddy pill meet and fall in love.
They then make the decision to have a baby pill, they both get down to some freaky stuff.
9 months later a baby pill comes out of the mummy pill.
this is how pills are made.
Glad I could help.
you need Emcocel Microcrystalline Cellulose it is an amazing bonding agent and it dissolves faster when ingested
OK, here’s how you make a pill. A pill contains 1 or more APIs – active pharmatceutical ingrestients. you make a mixture based around this being deliver in the correct dose (these called the excipients). The mixture mostly consists of filler (lactose perhaps), binder, (the glue that haolds it together) and a few other bits and pieces depending on how clever you are – some hvae disintigrents iand dispersants in that make sure it doesn’t al sit on one part of the stomach, others have clever tech that allows different parts to be active at different times. Then there’s the lube, which helps it go down you’re throat and also out of the press quickly without fallign apart.
This mixture is carefull calculated, and once the recipe decided, is granulated – which means heavily mixed so there is uniform API and excipient through the entire batch, and then pressed – where a calculated volume of this mixture is fed into a tube and under very high pressure to plates called the dies are slammed together – the binder creates the pill. The dies have the design and shape. It’s then ejected and the next one loaded.
you don’t need Emcocel Microcrystalline Cellulose. Most guys use starch. It is used by some, it depends on the properties of the other required excipients and if it is most suitable.
Let me dig through some old paperwork and show you example die patterns, it’s hilarious, there’s all the pharma ones then a smilie face and some cherries.
Some presses spit out a pill a second with the forulation in a basic hopper on top, oithers are rotary with 32 every 1/3 of a sec and a hopper the size of a room on the floor above. You can buy hand crimpers but they are very rare as capsule technology has come on so far, you can get halal and lactose free caps, it’s easier to make test batches using them.
@schaefer371 14093 wrote:
so a pill press huh,…i guess you would just get allt he stuff thats in E and press it all together, am i right? but is that all you do, press it? wouldnt you have ot bake it or somthing?
edit* how would you make a liquid a pill?
Sorry, didn’t see that.
Pharma companies make liquid gelcaps by warming up a fast spinning die with the liquid inside, introduced through a couple of different mechanisms. The tech map on this means you’ll be seeing more as the most expsensive part of making pills is stopping making them to clean out all the dust (grinds) in the trade. As he cost of gelling comes down, it’s preferred as there’s no dust to clean out of the mechanisms.
If you mean clandestine it depends on the liquid and what the active dose is. The ones which are very potent, measured in micrograms, can be added to the filler in the granulation stage (pharmaceutical too). You wouldn’t usually tun a large dose liquid into a pill but it can be done by playing games with emulsification then layering with inert dust and throwing into a sugar coater (not unlike a concrete mixer tbh).
If you mean how do you take something you personally have that is a liquid and want to dose a pill – then …
1) be very careful with your maths, double check everything
2) buy some lactose pills, they are listed under lactose and/placebo/blanks or go and get some very cheap vitamin pills that are not vitamin C and haven’t been coated
3) choose an apropriate solvent for your liquid and calculat how much you have and to how much you have to add to get a known dose per drop from a dropper, then add the appropriate number of drops to the pill (or sugarcube)
But its one of those “is you ahve to ask then probably don’t” if the liquid can be danerous mate.
@TKD34L3R 15917 wrote:
when i make my pills…. ( TK’s.. probably havent heard of them more of a Central Coast Australia pill.. comes in varietis.. and colours for each different type.) i get pure MDMA made.. which to me isnt that hard.. but hey bit of study doesnt hurt.. i didnt know any chemistry all you need is to get the chemicals together.. which was a bit of a mission but i did it.. and read the instrucitons the only thing that will confuse you is thew chemical names
This is not true and unsafe, even in a modern 3 or 4 stage synth two are inherently dangerous, and if you’re untrained you’ll be using something along the lines of a 12 stage synth where the same dangers and others exist. I can’t think of a single working synth that exists on the net which scales up t commercial levels to the point you can make pills, not caps, and is real, all contain errors that only a chemist would know as obvious and rectifiable easily, for the safety of the author. You’re not baking a cake! Each output stage needs to be tested so you know it’s reacted correctly. How did you test your final product to make sure you were giving people residual Hg from the amalgam stage and poisoning them?
Having dies made costs uber-bucks and each die requires a different excipient mix. H
Oh, FWIW, this fact is one way of having an idea that a new pill rumoured to be good is good. Not many companies make dies, and even fewer do it no questions asked, you can set up a mailing list with them all in half an hour chasing on alibaba. They will send out their commercial available list in picture form to anyone on request. When new one comes out that has been invested to the point that actually have custom dies (like some of these new tenner a pop ones knocking around) you can check the up-to-date picture sheets for the dies to see if it’s off-the-shelf or a genuine custom print.
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