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Methadone
Hardly a drug normally associated with the party scene, methadone deserves a mention because there’s just so bloody much of it about now. Methadone is an opioid, a synthetic opiate. Like the better-know opiates, morphine and diamorphine (heroin), methadone is a powerful analgesic, or painkiller. Although methadone is still occasionally used for pain relief, it’s far more common to find it being used to ‘treat’ people who are physically dependent on heroin. In the UK, the number of people using heroin has been steadily increasing. Methadone use has also been increasing.
Treatment, as in making you better?
Well, not exactly, no. Just stay with the idea for a moment that ‘drug addiction’ is more than a pharmacological problem. It’s not just about the chemical, the drug. The drug does tend to play a pretty significant part, and yet it’s never the whole story. Someone taking methadone instead of heroin can definitely let go of their dependent heroin habit. The methadone stopos the ‘withdrawal syndrome’. If I’m heroin dependent, and I’m withdrawing, and I take methadone…it stops. The methadone will get rid of cramps, and nausea, and vomiting, and diarrhea, and all the other nasties that make a heroin habit unpleasant. If I keep on taking it, I don’t get ill. If I stop taking it, I get…errrr…well…an opioid withdrawal syndrome.
Treatment, as in getting you hooked?
Well, you don’t have to put it quite like that. It’s true that regular, dependent methadone use does of course fit neatly into the ‘addiction’ model described in our ‘reducing the risks’ pages. And methadone dependence has some benefits over heroin dependence, for some people. If you’re living in the UK and can get methadone on the NHS it won’t cost you all the money you can raise each day just to stay on top of the habit. Even if you pay for a private consultation and ‘script it’ll be a lot cheaper than the brown. Methadone is available as a liquid – linctus or methadone mixture – which is swallowed, meaning you don’t need to inject. Some people of course do inject, and injectable ampoules are sometimes prescribed. Tablets are also available. Like many other medicines some of these prescribed drugs are diverted and become available illegally.
Treatment, as in getting stoned?
The guidelines for prescribing methadone indicate that enough should be given to prevent physical withdrawal symptoms – when you are prescribed methadone it is not supposed to give you a buzz, or make you feel stoned, or however else you describe it.
The physical effects of methadone are similar to other opiates (like heroin); suppressed cough reflex, contracted pupils and drowsiness. Regular use will cause constipation. Some methadone users feel sick when they first use the drug. If you are a woman using methadone you may not have regular periods – but you are still able to conceive.
Methadone is a long-acting opioid; it has an effect for up to 36 hours and can remain in your body for several days.
In terms of ‘treating’ an opioid withdrawal syndrome the medication is very attractive to many prescribers – it last a long time, is stable in liquid form and is cheap to produce.
Most treatment services that offer prescribing will want to manage a ‘reducing’ dose of methadone. The idea behind a reducing script is that you stabilise the ‘patient’, then gradually reduce the dose until they aren’t using methadone anymore.
This style of ‘community detox’ doesn’t work for everybody. The people for whom it works least well are the people who ‘top-up’ their ever-decreasing medication with either illegally-bought methadone, or heroin.
Some people see little point in drawing it all out, and find it easier to reduce or just stop using heroin without ever taking methadone. Methadone’s primary benefit to the user is that it manages physical opiate dependence legitimately. In the UK, it’s very difficult to find anyone who will prescribe heroin, or morphine, to treat opiate dependence.
Treatment, as in safe?
Not as such. For several years now, methadone has been the cause of more accidental poisonings (overdoses) in the UK than heroin. It’s really worth reading that last sentence again…
Methadone is a very potent drug, and individual doses vary for each person. What’s prescribed for my friend could kill me, easily. If you are using methadone that you have bought illegally be aware that you could overdose on an amount that would seem ‘normal‘ to somebody else – especially if you are not using opiates regularly, and have a low ‘tolerance’ (it doesn’t take very much to affect you). Differences in tolerance are caused by how often you use a drug. If you are using methadone regularly – prescribed or not – taking a higher dose than normal, or using other depressant drugs (like alcohol, heroin, tranquillisers or sleeping tablets) at the same time could cause you to overdose. If you do lose consciousness and vomit you may well choke.
If you become drowsy you should not try to drive or operate machinery – you could easily have an accident.
Methadone is very dangerous for children. An ordinary daily dose for an opioid-dependent adult is likely to kill a child. If you store methadone at home it should be kept where children are not able to get to it – in a high cupboard, not by your bed or in the fridge. If a child does swallow methadone they should be taken to the Accident and Emergency Department at your local hospital immediately – let the doctors know what has been taken, and if possible at what time and what quantity.
Treatment, as in legal, right?
Sometimes. Methadone is controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 as a Class A, Schedule 2 drug.
Other Class A drugs include heroin and cocaine.
I don’t know much myself but check out here for a info. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methadone/methadone.shtml
HEY GIRL, I FEEL YOUR PAIN. I’M ON METHADONE AND I CAN PERSONALLY TELL YOU ITS THE HARDEST OPIAT TO COME OFF OF. IT CAN TAKE UP 2 A YEAR TO GET BACK TO NORMAL. I WAS OFF IT FOR A MONTH AND I WAS STILL SO DOPE SICK AND COULDN’T TAKE IT AND ENDED UP GOING BACK. HOW LONG AGO DID HE QUIT? MY BEST ADVICE TO YOU IS TO GIVE HIM HIS SPACE ESPECIALLY IF HE’S WITHDRAWING REALLY BAD, BUT STILL LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU’RE THERE FOR HIM. THIS IS SURELY A VERY ROUGH TIME FOR HIM AND YOURSELF. I FEEL 4-U HANG IN THERE AND GOOD LUCK TO YOUR MAN
Thanks Elretardo87 appreciated. Damn it confuses me as to why people are prescibed methadone which seems very addictive itself. One thing i am grateful for is that growing up on the streets in Africa although i dabbled in H i never got to get addicted.
I am hoping that i can somehow show him that you dont need drugs to be happy and have fun.
Mandy- Thanks gal, he gave up methadone 2 weeks ago shortly before i met him, he’s been on it since April and was addicted to H for 12 years so yer he’s done really well. I came across 3 brown bottles in his room yesterday and when i asked him if he if he had gone back he went nutts at me. I guess i gotta trust him innit and just keep kicking his butt when he gets so mash up. Good luck to you Mandy be strong gal. May you find a way to break free.
I came out from re-hab on July 23rd 2005. I detoxed from Methodone.
Methodone gives the same sort of emotional supressant as any opiate. Your B/F probebly has emotional issues as well as the withdrawel to cope with. Dependant on the lenght of time he was using will depend on the length of time it will take to come off and adjust back to normal.
No one ever told me about the emotional baggage that comes with withdrawel symptoms – and its tougher the longer you’ve been at it.
Just remember its okay to be angry, frustrated, hurt, alone, robbed of something but not sure what. All these are emotional issues which can be dealt with when clean. Hence he may feel that at this moment in time he cannot open up; distant.
I can only hope that perhaps you can make him comfortable during his difficult time ahead?
PLUR
I feel like a right bitch but i couldn’t continue the relationship and ended it on Saturday. I feel like shite about it but i was getting really weird and i aint felt so fucked up in a relationship. Hopefully we will continue to be friends cause i will still help wheneva i can.
Damn i am one messy head biatch.
Good luck to him he is one wikkid person.
I know this may seem sensible to most of us but obviously it is something that not everyone is aware of:hopeless:
:hopeless:
Peter Meaney was sentenced to three years and eight months at the High Court in Edinburgh for the culpable homicide of Danielle Scott, 17.
The 27-year-old admitted giving her methadone in February last year.
Mrs Scott’s husband James, 51, an electrician, added that the family felt “empty and lost” by the tragic death. The family said had Danielle committed no offence and had not been taking drugs.
While at Meaney’s Sighthill flat, Danielle had been given alcohol and methadone. The court heard that when Danielle became unwell, Meaney stopped a friend calling an ambulance.
He fell asleep in the early hours of the morning and woke to find that Danielle was dead.
A post-mortem examination concluded that the small dose of methadone she had taken was enough to kill someone who was a stranger to drugs.
Sentencing Meaney, judge Lord Macphail said: “No sentence any court could pronounce could ever reconcile the family to their loss, or cure their anguish, and the sentence pronounced today does not imply any assessment of the depth of their suffering, which cannot be measured.
“It is accepted that you did not intend to kill her, and it is evident from the reports which have been obtained that her death has had a profound impact upon you and you have experienced genuine remorse.
© BBC MMVI Wednesday, 1 November 2006, 14:32 GMT
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I’d been recommended this to help aid my sleep as the blood disorder i suffer from causes me to be very tired but unable to sleep properly..
On checking a few sites it can also be benifical to methadone users so i thought i’d put the site up here..
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/scullcap.htm
http://www.healingdaily.com/exercise/methadone.htm
If u google skullcap or scullcap u should find more info if i find more i’ll let u know.. one of ma mates is an alternative therapist and she recommended it to me.. i’ll ask her for more info for ya
ah right i was picturing some form of head wear.:crazy_diz
gotta be v careful with doses and also over the counter remedies, so best to see a herbalist 4 it, most herbalists do a free low/no income clinic at least once a week..
TBH they may need to see a doctor too as their liver may be in bad shape.
So the advice is get a check up from your doctor/GP and, if they ok it, then go and see a herbalist for advice on whether or not skullcap will help you [other things may be more use – you never know :wink:]
Sorry to bump this age old thread but why you gotta be careful with dosage of Skullcap? I wa splanning on amking a brew or smoking it.
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Who the fuck do you fucking think you are?
I am fine with anyone who said they cant help, but with you, you are obviously rude and offending me!
FUCK YOU! BASTARD!
and like i said i am not complaining! If u can read well, and not blind, read all what i wrote, Moron! I was asking! Not complaining!
And you are more than welcome not to answer MY THREAD!
nobody asked you to.
And dont write anything on this thread ever again unless you are a stupid and moron asshole who are just intentionally looking for fights and annoy and irritate and offend other people!
What the fuck is wrong with you?
All this time i WAS NOT EVEN TALKING TO YOU!
So YOU, Get the FUCK OFF my THREAD!
Thank you. No offend to the others. I am thankful to the others who posted their reply here and said truly unable to help. It is fine with me.
scrambled egg, and a bum?
hope u get better love, and we here do mean well, but sometimes we let it out in weird ways (ive gone off at someone too), hope ur not to offended by it all and im sure DREAM didnt mean it in such a viscious way.
anyway hope u are allright
I hope she gets the advice she wants but I dont think PV is the place for it.
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