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@General Lighting 403448 wrote:

MDMA is expensive, and a high classification in most countries.

Piperazines and Cathinones are cheaper and less classified (less risk to dealers)

These chemicals can find their way into “MDMA” to bulk it out and can cause the problems you mention. even the same batch could have different effects if the chemicals aren’t well mixed.

that sounds possible to me too although really bad luck to get such a different reaction, it seems unlikely. But cant think of anything else that fits really other than ur medication effecting it (no idea why it didnt the first time), u being ill or taking more than you realised (broken scales etc) .

@Kelter82 403445 wrote:

SO CONFUSED! Someone Who Isn’t Me (SWIM) doesn’t want to repeat this, so if anyone has an idea WHY this happened please let SWIM know! Thanks so much.

Alright so here’s the scoop:

SWIM has done MDMA twice before (as well as one MDA experience). The first time SWIM did 125mg with a reboost of 50mg after about 3 hours. The second time it was 100mg with a reboost of 50mg. Two nights ago SWIM went to a Steve Aoki concert (OMG AMAZING) and sadly, only had just under 50mg of MDMA for the whole evening. The last time SWIM did any sort of drug other than weed was about 6 weeks ago. SWIM wakes up at 6pm, takes SWIM’s epilepsy drugs (none are MAO-Is – Tegretol, Lyrica, and Primodone. SWIM has taken them before MDMA both times in the past) and eats three slices of whole grain toast with strawberry jam. SWIM then heads into town and picks up provisions. Provisions include a small bottle of orange juice and a big thing of orange gatorade. SWIM drinks all the orange juice and about half a cup of the orange gatorade (it was supposed to be for the concert but it was confiscated). Around 9:30pm SWIM takes the little MDMA swim has and at 10 heads into the concert. SWIM gets in the doors at 10:15 and by the time SWIM is up the stairs SWIM IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY GONE.

SWIM doesn’t remember half of the concert. SWIM went with a friend who, due to circumstances, was completely sober. Thank god. SWIM’s friend says SWIM was babbling nonsense, couldn’t stand up on SWIM’s own, that SWIM fell, and was SWEATING profusely. SWIM also refused to drink any water. Definitely the most wasted person at at Steve Aoki concert (a feat!). SWIM stayed the whole 4 hours but was high for at least 7, when SWIM was tucked into bed. SWIM and friend are both lucky the bouncers didn’t take SWIM to the hospital on SWIM’s way out. To an onlooker it would have looked like it was an overdose or roofies (SWIM did NOT have ANY alcohol that night).

45-50mg of MDMA SHOULD NOT have done what it did. So amazingly weird. Oh, and that 45-50mg of MDMA was from the SAME LOT as SWIM’s second MDMA experience, which went just fine. Underwhelming, if anything.

Anyone know what could’ve happened, please please PLEASE reply. Thank you.

It was the vitamin B2 contained within the strawberry jam that fcuked you up.

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No one knows, forget about it and move on. I doubt it was PMA because no one would go back to buy that shit and you never hear of it being used these days (dealers don’t wanna kill people with PMA)

Better chance it was a Pip like GL said.

@General Lighting 403676 wrote:

this stuff was putting a few people in hospital around London and SE England a while back….

It was actualy the local dealer doing it him self in this case. I only clocked on cos there was half a smiley face looking at me out the wrap of coke when I opened it! :laugh_at:

I had bought the very same pills off him the weekend b4 lol. They were pretty shit as well. I can Imagin he wasn’t the only one to think of doing this tho. :hopeless:

@peddler 403716 wrote:

i’ve mixed the two and was okay, also mixed in mmcat when i was visiting a place called Bredbury Hall near Manchester, I was fucking fucked but able to go again the next day.

It was perhaps a little reckless. :crazy:

In fact I was regularly mixing pills and ching for two weeks during the summer of 1997 in Tenerife. Saying that I was coughing up blood by the end of it

done it myself before just remember someone off here saying it made them quite ill or something. Not good for the heart I think.

coughing up blood would freak me the fuck out.