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  • Okay, so for my whole life I have had some very strict Jehovah’s Witness parents, and lived under strict Jehovah’s Witness routine with, up until 3 years ago, strictly Christian friends. After that point I made some non-Christian friends at work but their world still seemed alien to me.

    Recently I have taken some radical life changes mostly revolving around renouncing my faith in response to certain events which made God impossible for me to believe in and moving out entirely on my own (better put, “I would rather you be dead than atheist”). I have made a lot of good friends and surprisingly I have a lot of interesting things to talk about and even more surprisingly people don’t seem to find me boring or dull to be around.

    It’s a whole new world, along with really listening to good music, watching TV, drinking a drop of alcohol or doing drugs, I now have women, sex and relationships available as options.

    But here’s the catch. The last time I kissed a girl I was 8 which I don’t really think counts. Never been on a date or any of that fun stuff, and I think women probably find that quite intimidating, which is understandable. It’s not that I am nervous to ask, I asked one person, who said yes,” Until I actually mentioned I had never been on a date before when she asked and she said “I am a bit of a maneater, I don’t really want to put you through what I can be like.” Further discussion basically revealed that she suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder and didn’t want me to get attached to her.

    Emotional overinvestment isn’t something I am at risk of.

    Also one person asked me, but uh, she’s married.

    It’s not that I am nervous to go. Quite the opposite in fact, the prospect is exciting. I suppose my main concern is for the other person but I am most certainly eager to try. It’s strange though, a completely inexperienced girl would be very offputting to me, it’d be the same as taking 2 children, giving them a pile of bricks and mortar and telling them to build a house. What I need is someone far more… seasoned, but again, I imagine someone like this would like a guy who has had girlfriends before. But hearing from most the women in my group what an arse their boyfriend is, competition isn’t too strong. Who knows.

    One of my friends jokingly told me to hire an escort. I don’t think I would feel right paying for my first date, much as I appreciated the suggestion.

    Also, my 21st Birthday is coming up. The very first birthday I would ever have celebrated! Fancy that…

    I am not even completely sure what it is I am asking, just, any tips for someone who is new to life? And if you, as a sociable well adjusted person could do it all again, what mistakes would you avoid making twice?

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    Well done for escaping the clutches of organised religion. Don’t let them spoil spirituality for you though.

    Lots of people abandon religion in their 20s, others find it, and they manage to make friendships and relationships easy enough. But friendships and relationships can also be fragile whether or not you are part of a faith group.

    I wouldn’t worry about your past, nor be in too much of a hurry to get into a long term relationship. if people are willing to judge you for it you don’t really want to enter into a relationship with them anyway.

    BTW as sceptical as I am about organised religion (I’m a lapsed Catholic), just because you practised it doesn’t mean you are unsociable or not well adjusted. It has its advantages, such as encouraging self-discipline, being able to defer gratification and control impulses.

    The only thing I suggest you don’t do is end up taking every kind of drug, fucking everything in sight to the point you land up in rehab with your parents saying “I told you so” -however, you come across as too well adjusted to do that, and still with strong moral values (for instance not wanting to embark on the affair with someone who is married).

    you are not “new to life”, you’ve been alive for 21 years but just had a different upbringing, and still got the chance to enjoy your youth…

    Okay, i just read this and i couldn’t help but feel that none of it really matters. I don’t really know what other girls are like, i only have two close girl friends and i spend almost all of my free time with guy friends, but if i was going on my own opinion, i don’t judge people by anything really except for personality and how i get along with them. Experience, past.. whatever, i don’t think it really matters. Just try and get out and meet people. Don’t look too hard and take life as it comes. Tbh, girls aren’t even that great 🙂
    And in my limited relationship knowledge of two people, i’d say that love and be comfortable with yourself first, you’ve got to know who YOU are before someone else tries to get to know you. And don’t spend too much time together.

    Having had a liberal up-bringing, I can’t even imagine putting myself in your shoes, but if I were to go back a couple of years, I think this is what I’d want to have known.

    +1 what harr!et says about needing to know and be comfortable with yourself; being comfortable about yourself (i.e. confidence) will make you much more approachable.

    Also heed General Lightings advice about not going on a binge. I guess I’d add not just doing things for things sake; go with the flow (but on your own terms), and never feel you have to do something. Counter-culture, at its very heart, holds the notion of not conforming, so just find who you are, and what you like – there’s no “norm”.

    And with that sentiment, turn your upbringing and the way you are from being something that makes you abnormal in to something that makes you unique. Change that in your head, and the girls will catch on soon enough.

    I don’t think online dating websites are quite my thing… Thank you for the suggestion though.

    I feel rather new to life at least by most people’s standards. Seeing as before moving out, the wildest party I went to was one where boys and girls were allowed to stay in the same room together until 10 before we moved to separate living rooms, ate pizza and drank cola and (sinfully!) we even watched a spot of television, that one movie made up about 75% of my TV viewing time for my whole life haha. Lights out at 12:00am of course…

    The impression most people seemed to have of me before getting to know me, being 20 years Jehovah’s Witness, never doing anything outlandish in that time etc etc is that I am going to be reserved or dull. I am well aware that I am actually not socially awkward at all.

    Thank Harr!et that’s very helpful. I have a rough idea of who I am, I am just for the first time in my life exploring all my options.

    I suppose being polarised to my life before in making such a remarkable change shows a lot of character and strength, interesting, thanks I will think about that 🙂

    I have to do some clothes shopping too, I don’t really have anything “casual” haha.

    Oh yeah, and my knowledge of dating extends about as far as what my grandparents and Hollywood have told me, I am well aware the definition is far more… Hazy, and almost anything can be a date as long as you are spending time together, why not tell me one of your best first dates and what you did so I have some rough ideas. I won’t try and emulate them 🙂

    I kind of understand what you mean.. i lived with my dad the whole of my life and went to a christian school, and only recently started living at my mum’s house again (and my mum is well.. hmm.. don’t know quite how to describe her, i think i’m more of the mum in our relationship) and it was like a massive change. I think it changed the person i am alot, i started experiencing new things. So i understand. But i don’t think that someone worth being with will be put off by how you lived your past and how much ‘experience’ you have. If you really click, you probably won’t even get on to the past girlfriend topic, you’ll have so many more interesting things to talk about.

    Hmm the best date.. i actually used to meet up with him in the woods near my house because my dad would have chased him away with a pitch fork and fitted me with a chastity belt if i had brought him home. And it was kinda magical and secretive and we spent hours in the woods just getting to know each other and stuff.. it was really cool (but it was january and freezing cold :|). But i would say, find out what her interests are. Taking the boyfriend stargazing was fun, probably the best recent date because i got to share one of my favourite hobbies with one of my favourite people 🙂

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    Find a nice big sociable hobby, Rocks climbing brought me out of my shell ( along with E, not at the same time though) and made me many many good friends of both genders from around the world. Climbers tend to trust each other fast as we hold each others lives in our hands.

    Just make sure you jack one out the day before you first sleep with a girl. Not the same day, but the day before. You don’t wanna shoot your wad in 2 minutes and embarrass yourself. That’s normal advice.

    Otherwise, just go on with what you’re doing. Sounds like you’re coping fine.

    @Remington 437210 wrote:

    Just make sure you jack one out the day before you first sleep with a girl. Not the same day, but the day before. You don’t wanna shoot your wad in 2 minutes and embarrass yourself. That’s normal advice.

    Otherwise, just go on with what you’re doing. Sounds like you’re coping fine.

    fuck this advice 😛

    You will find someone mate, and you will find someone who is experienced. Just keep looking. The world is your oyster now.

    I have to ask, how does it feel to have a whole new world opened up to you like this?

    Well ill give my advice, tho sum will slap me down.

    For one id start drinking…..i get most sex when drunk (in my single days)….id also go out and try mdma (xtc) etc….id just like to c a former bible basher off iz ead shaggin sum fit dirty lass hahaha

    Yeah social lubricant is good
    also if the girl you are with has had one or two then you wanna be on a level I think

    @Remington 437210 wrote:

    Just make sure you jack one out the day before you first sleep with a girl. Not the same day, but the day before. You don’t wanna shoot your wad in 2 minutes and embarrass yourself. That’s normal advice.

    “Clean Them Pipes” as my pappy used to say!

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