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January 21, 2011 at 7:05 pm

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JB88

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Hi

Obviously people react differently to substances and often little is known about some commonly sold rc’s but are there some that are considered perhaps safer than others?

i ask because i had a very bad experience with mephedrone that was down to me not being able to control my urge to redose. This has left me quite wary of rc’s and some illegal substances also, mdma especially. which i think is a shame as i would definitely like to try it.
i have experience with weed, salvia, mephedrone, kratom, mushrooms (cubensis) and cocaine.

i have ordered some mdai as from trip reports it sounds fairly mild. looking forward to trying this.

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January 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

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fryingsquirrel

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It would help to know what type of high you’re interested in, but…

Psychedelics are generally safer than stimulants. The 2c-x stuff has a good safety record, so long as you don’t go nuts with the dose. 4aco-dmt and similar are VERY closely related to shrooms, which have a history of use dating back thousands of years.

Mephedrone, MDPV and other stimulants have caused lots of health problems and addiction.

Cannabinoids containing the napthalene moiety should be avoided due to potential cancer risk. Off the top of my head only jwh-250 doesn’t have this. (there are probably MANY others).

Brand new chemicals should be avoided until other people test them out

Phenazepam is a great way to wake up in jail asking how much your bail is.
January 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm

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Sychonaut

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Mephedrobe was nasty work. Indulged in it a tad to much at uni. I found Methylone (bk-MDMA) was so much better around those Times. That stuff was great!

From experience, (And ive had alot of experience with alot of rc’s and illegals) psychedelics, are the safe options. I always found Tryptamines to be the safest. They always seem to produce hardly any hangover so id say try some aMT. Its a great stim and phsycedelic.
January 21, 2011 at 8:16 pm

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JB88

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im looking for something to keep me dancing all night and take my love of music to the next level.
i have just discovered the drum and bass scene and im having a great time finding out what its all about. kind of worrys me though that alot of people i see dont weigh out their dose’s before clubs/concerts?!

when i asked my friend how much mdma i should try he said about half a gram.
:crazy_diz i think not :crazy_diz

mephedrone was indeed some feindish stuff! i experienced severe vasoconstriction after a monster binge. ive definitely learnt my lesson.
January 22, 2011 at 1:16 am

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mdma ur looking at 100-150mg of pure for a first dose …. i personaly will do about 200-250mg but i’ve been doing it for years … i know some people that drop like 500mg bombs … but they normaly end up in the corner looking like a spastic for the rest of the night.
January 22, 2011 at 4:43 am

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parrotfish

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@DaftFader 417084 wrote:

they normaly end up in the corner looking like a spastic for the rest of the night.

…and covered in vomit 😉

For music appreciation in clubs best stick to non-psychedelics like mdma unless experienced (go with Daft’s dose recommendations). That said, a small dose (5-10mg) of a mild psychedelic like 2cb is a nice enhancement to mdma and won’t knock you into a another dimension. Most of the other 2c’s I’d avoid in a club environment for that reason (obviously dose/person dependant). AMT sounds interesting, but probably best try in a safe setting before venturing out in public. I’d avoid most of these new rcs…6APB, MDAT, NRG etc, and definitely don’t mix & match.

Definitely recommended to weigh out doses, although mdma is more forgiving than others. Careful with 2c’s though – eyeballing not a good idea, particularly in a club!
January 22, 2011 at 9:33 am

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frandjtic

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@JB88 417070 wrote:

im looking for something to keep me dancing all night and take my love of music to the next level.
i have just discovered the drum and bass scene and im having a great time finding out what its all about. kind of worrys me though that alot of people i see dont weigh out their dose’s before clubs/concerts?!

when i asked my friend how much mdma i should try he said about half a gram.
:crazy_diz i think not :crazy_diz

mephedrone was indeed some feindish stuff! i experienced severe vasoconstriction after a monster binge. ive definitely learnt my lesson.

hay, im massive into the dnb scene aswell and this has been a problem of mine. Ive always wanted something that will last quite a while and make me want to dance an not just mong out in a corner an look like a gurning twat. My advice is to do some research on good pills that are in your area and see what people have done em and how they felt etc. I done batch1 of benzo fury and went to watch kasabian and this was as good as the stuff from the 90s but to be honest this stuff lately has been pretty crap. Shem thou as this would deffo have done the job, good euphoria, visuals etc. Maybe Batch 7 will be good but im starting to very much doubt this.
January 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm

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Sychonaut

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If you want summin that will make you move, I still stand by aMT. Its really is powerful stuff so dont fob it off because its an RC. Done a fat hit at Westfest last year and was dancing from start to finish pretty much and was still in a great mood a good 18hours later.

Its also got quite a bit of info on it compared to most new RC’s. Google alpha-methyltryptamine and check out Wikipedia.
January 22, 2011 at 9:54 pm

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JB88

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ok so far ive ordered a gram of mdai, amt and 5-meo-dalt. so i shall be experimenting. i can happily dance my arse off all night without help but i just feel as if im missing something. got andy c lined up for april and a ton of other sruff in between so ive got plenty of time to select my weapon of choice for what should be a cracking night!
January 23, 2011 at 1:48 am

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Garoldeep Singh

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If you like tripping, go for 4-AcO-DMT. Just like mushrooms, but better ie: NO SICKNESS or having to eat mushrooms:yakk:
January 23, 2011 at 5:29 am

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p0ly

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Don’t expect anything from MDAI or 5-MEO-DALT. DALT is dangerous though so don’t take loads. Also AMT is very potent, dose very small and wait 3 hours for the drug to take proper effect.
January 23, 2011 at 3:04 pm

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JB88

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Cheers poly. I want to ease myself into rc’s quite slowly so I’ve chosen a few milder chem’s which I’ll start off with low doses.

I’ve read about 400mg doses of 5-meo-dalt and it sounds extremely scary with reports of ego loss.

Should all arrive next week so ill write up some reports.
January 23, 2011 at 3:12 pm

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p0ly

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4-MeO-PCP is a good un i’m told.
January 23, 2011 at 4:02 pm

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Sychonaut

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@p0ly 417274 wrote:

4-MeO-PCP is a good un i’m told.

It is. Extremely similiar to Ket but with a few different effects. Great stuff but can be expensive :(.
January 23, 2011 at 6:56 pm

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Sychonaut

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@JB88 417272 wrote:

I’ve read about 400mg doses of 5-meo-dalt and it sounds extremely scary with reports of ego loss.

400mg is quite a huge dose.

I would say give it a go though if you can get your hands on it. I’ve done this alot. Its good. Not really, really psychedelic but you get a very nice body high and it sets you in a funky mindset. Nothing compared to things like DMT and aMT though.
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