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New internet drug kills 14 young Swedes
Published: 28 Jul 12 09:10 CET
Online: New internet drug kills 14 young Swedes – The Local
A new drug sold online has caused the deaths of 14 young men in Sweden since the beginning of July, and the Swedish National Institute of Public Health (Folkhälsoinstitutet, FHI) is now attempting a speedy process to ban the drug.
All known victims of the substance 5-IT were men in their twenties, autopsied after the National Board of Forensic Medicine (Rättsmedicinalverket) suspected their deaths were caused by overdoses, wrote national newspaper Dagens Nyheter.
FHI warns of the dangers associated with online drugs.
“Often several different substances have been mixed into the powder or tablets that people buy, without their knowledge. And on chat forums different dosages are recommended. This makes the online drugs deadly,” said FHI’s investigator Anders Persson to the newspaper.
Despite the dangers, drugs sold over the Internet have exploded in popularity over the past couple of years, and authorities have difficulty keeping up with the constant stream of new ecstasy and amphetamine-type stimulant substances.
Production is mainly based in China, reports Dagens Nyheter, and the legal process to forbid each new substance as it appears takes several months.
According to last year’s investigative report from Swedish broadcaster TV4, based on statistics from the National Board of Forensic Medicine, 500 people in Sweden have been killed by Internet drugs in the past decade.
It’s unknown how many victims 5-IT may have claimed in total, or how many use the drug.
But according to the Swedish Poisons Information Centre (Giftinformationscentralen), eleven people have called them so far in 2012 complaining of unpleasant symptoms after taking the substance. Some common symptoms of drug overdose are high pulse, sweats, anxiety and confusion.
And the deaths of the 14 young men show the drug may be more widely spread than suspected.
“Previously we haven’t been able to make analyses because we lacked the resources to trace the substance. But now that there were so many, we could see that they had all used 5-IT,” said FHI’s Persson to Dagens Nyheter.
FHI is now demanding the ban of 5-IT, hoping that the process to make it illegal will be prioritized. A ban would mean that possession and purchase of the substance would be punishable by up to a year in prison.
TT/Clara Guibourg (news@thelocal.se)
@wrigsted 489606 wrote:
500 people in Sweden have been killed by Internet drugs in the past decade.
This is a tiny tiny amount of people. Let me put it in perspective … You’re only just more likely to die from an internet drug in Sweden then you are to get hit by lightning in the US
Roughly 400 people got hurt by lightning in the US in the last decade.
I know it’s not a totally accurate comparison due to several factors, but I Just wanted to put it side by side with something else to show you how relatively rare an event someone actually dieing is from your example, considering it was worded like it was supposed to shock people, when actually it’s really not that many people at all when you look at the grand scale of things.
I’m sure more may have been in hospital being treated for drug related illnesses though, but the fact is not many die from it. This is why shock media is stupid and doesn’t work, as if you’re half intelligent you’ll read it and say .. well that’s actually not many people, but if they reported how many people got “ill” from taking it or just drugs in general then it may put people off more as the “DRUGS WILL INSTANTLY KILL YOU THEY ARE DEATH” approach to get people to be careful hasn’t worked over and over in almost every drug campaign up until <10 years ago because … funnily enough, the people who the campaign is aimed at actually take drugs … and know it's a load of bullshit in 99.99% of cases.
Also like rainey mentioned, A lot of the time’s in articles written like this one half the time it’s twisted truth. in 13 of the cases they had other substances in their blood too so wasn’t just 5-IT, although they may of only thought they were taking 1 substance, but this is the same for any drug legal online or illegal from your local friendly dealer you can’t garentee the purity of anything you buy on the black market. My spidey senses tell me that the majority had probably been at least drinking at the same time.
If one thing I’ve seen over and over again is to be said here, it is that by banning the substance you’re talking about will only increase the chance of it getting cut (with impurities) as the prices will rise and if there is a demand for it, (and I really don’t think there is much of one for this particular drug – I can think of a lot more popular ones to head hunt) more criminal gangs may take over the trade due to the fact it’s illegal as opposed to semi legal to sell. Getting a drug banned has and never will make a drug vanish off the face of the earth, we still have heroin and coke ffs, and not in small proportions how ever many decades after they got banned!
I’m sure a lot less people’s arms used to get infected from injecting back in the days when it was legal purely due to the fact there was no need to cut it as it was like any normal commodity you could buy like tobacco or tea. Like you say, with some of the drugs you just don’t know what they have been cut with and it’s because internet drugs are increasingly getting pushed underground, when the craze first started you could buy unbelievably pure drugs online quite easily from different places, now there are many selling illegal and legal things all mixed up as they can no longer sell their now illegal drugs as them selves and they want to not loose their cash (granted some of them just don’t give a shit, but you get people like this in all walks of life, for example the banker’s crises … a load of people who didn’t give a shit about anything).
People are too scared to put labels on things listing the actual ingredients in fear of getting their door kicked in by their friendly local police authority as more and more things are getting banned but different stuff is in different countries so it’s hard for even them to keep up of it’s legal status. So in turn people end up taking mixtures of drugs without knowing what they have taken.
@rainey 494346 wrote:
Only 2 died from 5-IT.
The rest had multiple drugs in their system.
http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/research-chemicals/50509-5-2.html#post494344
I posted a link to your post on the other 5-IT thread, as in the few sentences of truth you put I learn more then that entire news article about the dangers of 5-IT and how to safeguard my self against them. As opposed to just “it will kill you” like every other drug ever made that I’ve taken that supposedly would, but hasn’t (yet).
Sweden out of all European nations went from decrim to zero tolerance back in the 60s or 70s, after declaring decrim a failed experiment. Unfortunately I don’t understand enough Swedish to understand why this happened but that will affect to this day how their govt and media treat drugs and drug cuture..
there was a website about it but its disappeared, I think the chap what ran it got old perhaps reaching his 70s and it becomes hard to keep fighting as an activist around that age (an old hippy chap was saying that to me on Monday when I was at a meeting with our cycling group)
I vaguely remember that the country might have been plagued by binge users and drug turf wars and a rise in problematic use immediatley post decrim and perhaps didn’t have as much consensus for it as they thought (a bit like the UK experimenting with leniency in the late 90s and 2000s)..
http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/research-chemicals/51437-5.html
As per my last post ( and warning to all ), this stuff is dangerous………… STAY AWAY FROM IT !!!!
I dont know if the claims that it was directly responsible for deaths are true, or if what these people took was pure 5-IT, we all know the unreliability of online chems, that they are often cocktails of various drugs & inactives, and we all know that the media hype cant be trusted.
BUT
I can say first hand that this 5-IT stuff has NO positive effects, and from my own experience it has negative effects which include serious memory loss, the night I took it is still a complete blank to me, the week that followed I was in a daze, couldnt even remember peoples names, had to blag it in work waiting to be prompted to do things as I couldnt remember the tasks needed in my job, and through various prompting & people reminded my of things and my memory slowly recovered, it has taken several weeks to get back to normal.
I would say any supplier selling this stuff should be snubbed, dont buy anything from them, firstly because they are selling dangerous chems, but also because suppliers dont like to make a loss and are likely to mix this shit into their other products
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