Hi all, I really need advice/help/information about rolling my next time.

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September 7, 2012 at 11:08 pm

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reveries

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Basically, I rolled two nights in a row at Ultra two years ago. The second night I had a bad roll (definitely not the pills since I had taken the same ones the first night and I was fine. Had the best roll of my life ever actually). I felt really cold, like I was going to throw up which I did later on in the hotel room, totally zoned out, an emotional roller coaster of complete joy to sadness/wanting to cry the next minute. It was maybe one of the most frightening experiences I’ve ever had in my life, especially with 50,000+ people I didn’t know, in a foreign city, and separated from my friends because my phone died. A little note, I had not eaten or slept practically all three days. Stupid I know but it was my first festie.
I took a break from ecstasy for about 6 months after that. I then rolled again for the second night of Nocturnal Wonderland in Cali, a huge massive rave. Unfortunately, I had the same exact shitty roll! I also hadn’t eaten or slept really that weekend. Similar circumstances.
The next month I went to Escape with friends and one of them had the same roll I did. Bad feelings, cold, wanting to just die. Of course, he hadn’t eaten anything that day or slept.
Each of these instances the pills were good. Other friends took the same ones and had the amazing rolls apparently. What I’m saying is, I’m 100% sure it wasn’t the pills that were bunk.
Sorry for the long intro but the pattern seems to be that you need to eat. I realize that might be common sense and I fully admit how dumb I was.
Anyway, I’m rolling again for Nocturnal this year. I haven’t done E for about 6 months now. I just want to make sure that if I eat enough and sleep, I’ll be okay. I don’t want another ATB set ruined rather than enhanced because of drugs.
Merci everyone!
September 7, 2012 at 11:28 pm

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MC G-Tek

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Welcome to partyvibe. Unusual to meet an American who calls it E instead of X, cool. You definitely need to eat well before taking E’s cos you burn off a hell of a lot of energy whilst on them & if you ain’t slept in a while, you’re body’s gonna be run down by the time the drugs are kicking in & the experience won’t be anywhere near as good as it would otherwise be. Be safe, pig out big time before a messy session & get some rest – that way your body’ll be raring to go. Enjoy the site by the way.
September 8, 2012 at 3:32 pm

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General Lighting

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Yep if you are tired/hungry anxious and take stimulant drugs you will feel unhappy and paranoid no matter how good they are. what doesn’t help these days is outside of raves both girls and boys are being made hyper paranoid over weight and body image so they are paranoid to eat as it is. My generation likes eating as well as partying.

Also the side effects seem to affect girls more than boys, and can lead to other “womens health problems”. in my bit of England this usually results in raves rarely having any girls/women over the age of 25 present.

in my region this has got to the point where when our local cops tried to get a 26 year old female detective (the recruitment rules mean the youngest CID offices are around this age) to infiltrate farcebook and find out info of illegal raves she was immediately spotted as everyone said “nah, she is too old..” (still good looking for a cop – but I could tell she was a couple of years older than the usual female contingent found at rave round here, who are mostly from their teens to early 20s). both amusing and depressing at the same time…

For those who do not know who ATB is here are some links, though I would have said he is more from the commercial end of trance which burned itself out in England shortly after 2001 (trance is making a resurgence over a decade later) and haven’t heard that much by him recently unless I’ve actually got a tune by him under one of his many pseudonyms. He is a smart chap and his comments about the risk of the US EDM scene growing too fast and burning itself out should be noted (the USA is still culturally closer to England than other Northern European countries). He is also one of the only EDM producers I have seen with a decent European moustache rather than the silly goatees and/or designer stubble what make them look like they simply can’t be arsed to shave (and for someone my age who doesn’t want to look obviously “middle aged” (i.e most male trance producers and DJ’s) there is a fine line of how much/how little facial hair they should have if they aren’t clean shaven..

Interview: ATB – The DJ List
ATB – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
September 8, 2012 at 5:15 pm

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Chrispydelic

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You should try some different rolls. I like the cheese topped ones.
September 8, 2012 at 5:25 pm

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Most likely because your serotonin was drained from the night before, you need at least a week for it to get back to normal after MDMA, And the lack of food sleep would do it as well.

Eat 2-3 hours before you take the pills, make sure you’ve had a very good night sleep the night before and don’t drink or take any other drugs and if you’re still not getting good effects then it’s either the pills or you just aren’t designed to enjoy them, but if everyone is feeling the same, and they have all eated and sleeped then it’s the pills.
September 8, 2012 at 6:40 pm

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September 8, 2012 at 7:51 pm

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Mezz

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I’ve never had an negative experience as you described on Es, but the general advice about eating before is correct, I would say high carbs a few hours before so you dont burn out, and Banana’s ready at home to help with recovery the next day.

BUT although we have all done it 2 days in a row is a bad idea, with little or no sleep you mind plays tricks on you, you can become confused, paranoid and even though the pills keep your mind buzzing, your body will be crying for fuel & rest.
September 9, 2012 at 11:21 am

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The Psyentist

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Although I wouldnt recommend it as a regular trick but for such special events where sleep may not really be possible try and get some modafinil. Available online in UK without prescription although not sure how well if at all its regulated in the US. Its basically 8hours sleep in a pill but with no high or stimulating buzz at all. You just feel clear headed and alert as if you’ve actually been to sleep. Used myself before for a 3 day and night xtc binge and the only ill effect I suffered was a very sore jaw, obviously the E. To my knowledge it is used to treat narcoleptics and used in some branches of special forces to keep weary snipers alert.
September 9, 2012 at 12:23 pm

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MC G-Tek

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@Elektrik Muffin 494620 wrote:

Although I wouldnt recommend it as a regular trick but for such special events where sleep may not really be possible try and get some modafinil. Available online in UK without prescription although not sure how well if at all its regulated in the US. Its basically 8hours sleep in a pill but with no high or stimulating buzz at all. You just feel clear headed and alert as if you’ve actually been to sleep. Used myself before for a 3 day and night xtc binge and the only ill effect I suffered was a very sore jaw, obviously the E. To my knowledge it is used to treat narcoleptics and used in some branches of special forces to keep weary snipers alert.

Sounds like that pill Stan takes in American Dad! Didn’t know such a thing actually existed though, cool man.
September 9, 2012 at 12:40 pm

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General Lighting

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it does exist and it works. I would be careful about stacking it with other stimulants, as either on its own or combined you wll still get the side effects (it was originally thought of as a “miracle drug” like mephedrone was on the unlicensend market).
September 9, 2012 at 1:39 pm

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The Psyentist

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@MC G-Tek 494629 wrote:

Sounds like that pill Stan takes in American Dad! Didn’t know such a thing actually existed though, cool man.

Im an american dad fan but haven’t got round to that episode yet, look forward to it now though. Yeah it exists but surprisingly few people know of it. I agree with general lighting though, even the producers aren’t certain about how it works so be careful when taking it and not regularly, unless prescribed, because nothing is a true substitute for sleep. Plus take the correct dose, I foolishly took 2 200mg tablets as if they were ibuprofen. Turns out 50mg is all you need for 1 night and I only slept on night 5.
September 9, 2012 at 2:43 pm

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MC G-Tek

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@General Lighting 494633 wrote:

it does exist and it works. I would be careful about stacking it with other stimulants, as either on its own or combined you wll still get the side effects (it was originally thought of as a “miracle drug” like mephedrone was on the unlicensend market).

@Elektrik Muffin 494638 wrote:

Im an american dad fan but haven’t got round to that episode yet, look forward to it now though. Yeah it exists but surprisingly few people know of it. I agree with general lighting though, even the producers aren’t certain about how it works so be careful when taking it and not regularly, unless prescribed, because nothing is a true substitute for sleep. Plus take the correct dose, I foolishly took 2 200mg tablets as if they were ibuprofen. Turns out 50mg is all you need for 1 night and I only slept on night 5.

Sounds like some crazy stuff fellas. Can’t see that I’m gonna be taking it myself though, if I’m not on a messy night out, then I fkin love my sleep! Can’t be arsed to deprive myself of it when the possibilty for it is there. Cheers for the heads up though, nice one lads.
September 10, 2012 at 8:28 pm

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reveries

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ATB is my number one DJ. I’ve seen him many times and each set, he blows me away. He mixes and produces so well, transitioning from one track to the next seamlessly. I mean wow! He brings you up and down with hardly any effort it appears. Love him.

Yeah, you’re right about the weight thing. Girls are half naked at these raves/massives. It becomes an issue.

Will be sure to eat and maybe try modafinil if I can get my hands on it.

Thanks!
September 10, 2012 at 9:36 pm

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General Lighting

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modafinil is better if you are doing something like working hard to complete a college assignment or some other important project, its not as much of a party drug.
September 10, 2012 at 10:17 pm

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Itsamagicting

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Just don’t do too many rolls because then you will get dizzy, this may explain the sickness and light head you are suffering from.
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