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November 12, 2012 at 10:35 pm

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Chrispydelic

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Aaargh!

I’ve got K-cramps at the moment. Not the worst I’ve ever had but definitely uncomfortable.

Anyone wanna share any remedies?

Mint tea is good (but I don’t have any) if sipped hot, helps get the wind moving around and stuff. Hot water bottles or heatpacks are kinda good too.

Obviously there are painkillers but you have to have some pretty damn mad ones for it to be able to take away the pain of K-cramps.

What has anyone else heard?
November 12, 2012 at 11:04 pm

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p0ly

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When I was in a serious K cramp I battled to type anything on PV. Pretty sure I did everytime… Damn they are painful and evil.

Stop corroding your bladder brah!! i’m already worried about mine.

I found the best thing to do was focus on something else… I choose Worms 2 Armageddon… It helped me greatly!

As for friendly k advice i really have none…

How bad are your cramps? I have had severe k cramps a couple of times… evil memories!

For the record i’ve never pissed blood.

blood would scare me to stop
November 12, 2012 at 11:23 pm

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Tank Girl

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@Chrispydelic 505754 wrote:

What has anyone else heard?

Stop taking the shit

I know all medicines / substances have side effects, but pissing out your own bladder?
fuck that man!!
I suffer from urine infections that go straight to my kidney, last one had me in tears in my GP’s room and I got DF’s
There is no no no no way I would knowingly take it, as I just wouldnt want to risk liking it and fucking up my bladder

anyway – sorry I cant offer any help but yeh pain killers and lots of water to flush that stuff out your system
November 12, 2012 at 11:55 pm

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Chrispydelic

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Nah, my bladder’s fine man. It’s just a mild case of cramps. Not serious-I’m becoming suddenly religious-please God make it stop cramps though.
November 12, 2012 at 11:56 pm

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Tank Girl

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:group_hug:group_hug
November 13, 2012 at 11:50 am

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spangle

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They are horrible, had them for the first time in years a few weeks ago after a bit of a weekend bender.. (used to rinse the k but stopped about 4 years ago when I went to uni and now do it on and off occasionally). I remember becoming suddenly religious one of the first times and actually saying God I know you don’t fucking exist but if you do make them fuck off! Same as you never had any bladder problems, cramps are the only physical issue I had from overdoing it.

Bit of advice if your getting the mild cramps don’t carry on doing it coz that’s when a few days later the the agonising ones come on. And try not to make the mistake of going oh I really fancy a line now they’ve stopped.. You need at least a week or twos break (or use it to stop for good it only helps the long run) for the backlog of k to get broken down.

Yeh mint tea with honey is good, chocolate helps and through its the last thing on your mind exercise is always good fresh air + blood circulating helps speed up metabolism and recovery

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November 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm

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Pat McDonald

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Pretty much any fluid will help dilute the caustic and slow down the reaction. Ones without stimulants in would be better, so mint tea, sure.

I would have thought a bit of fat to help coat the stomach lining would help – milkshake or similar. Fruit smoothie?

Cramps are caused by wear and tear on the stomach lining – too many chemicals, not enough nutrients. Not quite same thing as bladder and kidney damage.

Bearing in mind that stomach acid contains concentrated acid, stomach lining is pretty tough. But there are limits to the human body.
November 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm

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know_hope

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i duno what a k cramp is really, but like an egotistical tabloid i’l give my opinion anyhow… it doesn’t sound good to me… as pat suggested i also like milk for stomach pain, but personally can find fruits irritating if im rough cos they’re acidic (especially tomatoes [which i use in most meals :s] ), altho bananas can be ok… i’d also have warm drinks, not too hot… green peppermint tea etc

and in an annoying mummy-esque way i recommend the best remedy is to stop doing k… at least for a while
November 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm

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chuff

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A K cramp is inflammation of the bile duct, liquids or stomach remedies won’t work other than reducing stomach acid caused by the stress and pain of having cramps.
evidence here the only solution is to take a break from using, inflammation is cumulative so continued use will make it worse, if permanent damage is done you will have future susceptibility to getting them again.
November 24, 2012 at 1:26 pm

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Chrispydelic

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@chuff 508081 wrote:

A K cramp is inflammation of the bile duct, liquids or stomach remedies won’t work other than reducing stomach acid caused by the stress and pain of having cramps.
evidence here the only solution is to take a break from using, inflammation is cumulative so continued use will make it worse, if permanent damage is done you will have future susceptibility to getting them again.

Good share man. Never seen that study before.
November 24, 2012 at 2:05 pm

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korno

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Ketamine destroys your bowels man, you will be doing shits in your pants at 50.
My dad died from a bowel infarcsion, basically he took too many mad pharma drugs to take his arthritis pain away.
So you can die from this shit at a young age, you’re feeling it happening with these ‘K-cramps’
November 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

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General Lighting

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many DAATs (drug and alcohol action team, usually made up of cops, council and NHS plus independent workers) across England are expressing serious concerns that party drug users in their 20s to 40s are presenting with long term health problems normaly found in the elderly. Now I am not a medical professional but I deal with the technology used in healthcare organisations dealing with the 80-100+ age group and so I get to see a lot of medical reports, and from comparing some of the health problems discussed here with what I see at work I do not think the DAATs are exaggerating.
November 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

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wickle

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herbal tea? milk? hot bath? valium? another line?..

seriously dude, just stop doing that sh!t asap. I know from experience it aint easy, but your bladder/bowel/kidneys etc might come in handy in the next 50+ years! don’t ravage them from that sh*Te.
November 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm

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Chrispydelic

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@korno 508092 wrote:

Ketamine destroys your bowels man, you will be doing shits in your pants at 50.
My dad died from a bowel infarcsion, basically he took too many mad pharma drugs to take his arthritis pain away.
So you can die from this shit at a young age, you’re feeling it happening with these ‘K-cramps’

Ketamine doesn’t get any where near the bowel. The pain that is felt is around the area of the solar plexus (which is one of the reasons that it is so uncomfortable). It’s explained really well in the above article (posted by chuff) what is going on and this is centered in the upper digestive tract.
November 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm

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Chrispydelic

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@General Lighting 508096 wrote:

many DAATs (drug and alcohol action team, usually made up of cops, council and NHS plus independent workers) across England are expressing serious concerns that party drug users in their 20s to 40s are presenting with long term health problems normaly found in the elderly. Now I am not a medical professional but I deal with the technology used in healthcare organisations dealing with the 80-100+ age group and so I get to see a lot of medical reports, and from comparing some of the health problems discussed here with what I see at work I do not think the DAATs are exaggerating.

They aren’t exaggerating at all. I know a girl who has had to have her bladder removed due to ketamine abuse (she was doing a quarter a day though) and now she has a catheter. Not pretty and this was a hella good looking girl too. It does take some serious abuse to get to that stage though.

My abuse is pretty bad but my mission for the new year is to get clean.
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