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@subrogue 521475 wrote:

So the only solution here is to bring our own, but we have to cross the border and airplane… and we don’t want our lives to get fucked / blacklisted etc just for couple caps we wanted to take for pure entertainment purposes.

its not worth taking the risk of smuggling across borders for a weekend. The feds worldwide will judge you as a potential dealer anyway. Also if you openly discuss flouting the law here the feds will know what tactics someone is planning. Of course they won’t track you down individually but will use these discussions as evidence to call for more searches/restrictions.

Canada seems to have a fairly decent EDM scene anyway, or if you really want to go to a foreign country and party why not come to Europe instead?

EDC is now past its best and overrated. I don’t even live anywhere near the USA but all the incidents of overdoses, violence etc were widely reported in international media.

There was some 15 year old girl keeled over from drugs and further allegations that the EDM scene across the USA is only being tolerated because some authorities are being paid off to overlook safety / security problems (and are only putting up with EDM events because the public sector are skint). That doesn’t even sound particularly safe to me and not worth spending thousands of dollars on.

@thelog 521767 wrote:

EDC??? Ecstasy dealers convention??

Electric Daisy Carnival. Would actually make more sense to transport the EDC to Canada, where there is more space, a slightly more tolerant and less judgemental society when it comes to partying, and the distance might deter the idiot contingent. And then the OP won’t have to smuggle anything anywhere because the rave will be in his country.

@SteveKasian 547323 wrote:

You should not be posting here due to your ignorance. You’ve never been, yet you’re advising people not to go and talking chit about how it’s no good anymore. And you’ve never gone. Loo heeewwww heeewwww heeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr![/quote]

Although I live in Europe, the safety procedures for large crowd events are now similar worldwide (accounting for differences in local government procedures). So a problem in one country affects many others. As a former event promoter I also know enough about the EDM scene (I grew up with it in Europe where it started) to know that all USA events are basically copies of what we did here in the 1990s during better economic times.

I didn’t even say it was that bad an event, but not worth the journey all the way from Canada especially carrying substances, and that it would be better to hold one in Canada (then the OP doesn’t have to smuggle any drugs, and Canada is big so there is plenty of space for it). Of course if someone lives nearer it may still be worth attending.

There was no “15 year old who keeled over from drugs”. That is an outright lie.

Electric Daisy Carnival Overdose Takes Life of 15 Year-Old Girl
Electric Daisy Carnival Deaths: 2 Die In Las Vegas After Having Attended Festival
Girl, 15, dies after attending Electric Daisy Carnival rave in LA – Los Angeles Times
Family of girl who overdosed at Coliseum rave to receive $190,000 – latimes.com

if these, and other incidents was not related to the event, how come there wasn’t more counterarguments from the promoters? Everywhere in the world is expected to at least try and enforce minimum age limits and keep younger people safe. I do accept they are increasing their safety procedures now but it seems that that has been done begrudgingly and after the incident. At European raves someone who is passed out is very quickly identified and taken to paramedics who have the same training levels and equipment as those of the local public health service.

Every single officer on the Las Vegas Metro Police force is on duty during EDC, and more than 1/2 of them are at the event. You can’t look in any direction at any time while on the grounds at EDC without seeing a pair (yes, a PAIR – that means TWO) of police officers in full uniform within 50 feet of you. And not only are there massive numbers of first-responders on duty at all times, including countless ambulances, but one of Air Methods Corporation’s Mercy Air medical helicopters is on call at all times during the event to transport anyone who may require it within MINUTES.
Last year (2012), there were high winds during the Saturday event and it was shut down for safety reasons. There were 200,000+ PISSED OFF PATRONS who could not enjoy the festivities BECAUSE SAFETY CAME FIRST.
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That this is fairly normal for a large crowd event anywhere in the world and a proportionate response to its size. The same happens for the Notting Hill Carnival in London, England. I bloody well hope they also have metal detect arches and a few plainclothes feds as well to prevent anyone bringing in guns and knives too.

As for wind, I live by the coast in England and we had a far smaller country show shut down in England for the exact same reasons. You can’t fight nature and there are times safety has to come first. Even then there are still incidents and too many mean the event gets refused its license next time. I’ve worked with event promoters across the UK for 20 years and from my own personal experience have strong concerns over the safety of any large crowd event unless its really well organised.

Even well organised countries fuck up. in 2010 there was a massive crowd crush at the Loveparade in Germany, because it had been shifted away from Berlin to a border area near Netherlands, to save costs to non participants in taxes at the same time the Dutch had done just the same. So two countries of party folk tried to fit into one space, and the results were ultimately fatal.

I’m not by any means a conservative and support the right to have these events across the world, if they are safe and that the costs are not passed on to others though taxes (which was a big bone of contention in Europe and why many EDM events have been stopped or not licensed, but I am certainly not going to go away nor try and hide bad news.

I am not picking on EDC becuase its American, I’d equally say England’s famous Glastonbury festival is past its best, not worth the money and only kept safe due to hundreds of cops and surveillance operations, which folk pay for in their ticket prices. You might as well just take a £20 note and post it to Wiltshire constabulary to spend on drug control measures (in fact they might get more than that).

What happens on the EDM scene, good or bad, affects everywhere in the world now and if ravers are ever to be taken seriously and not merely judged as drug using youths with a sense of entitlement they need to face up to all the issues. If you aren’t just a kid but trying to publicise this event you aren’t exactly doing a very good job…