Is MKAT all THAT Dangerous?

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June 15, 2013 at 6:14 am

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Tzzer

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hey all,
im new to this site so idk if this belong is the health board or what,

basically ive done 5-6 fat lines of mkat (first time user) in the last 5 hours and my heart is feeling incredibly weak, like it might give out at any second. also, im gurning way more than i would expect off anything except mandy

is this normal?
a SPEEDY reply would be much appreciated :sign0086:

peace love & unity
June 15, 2013 at 8:46 am

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Yeah Mephedrone can really play havoc with your heart, it’s a well known, not very nice side effect that you can get quite bad heart palpitations with it. I’d defiantly not take anymore and try and chill out, lay back somewhere and listen to relaxing music if you can.

Try not to do any physically strenuous things.
June 15, 2013 at 11:53 am

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Tzzer

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had a bit of a mare with that one in the end. havent slept yet and i feel like fuckin death. did get offered a job selling solar panels though :lol_fast:
June 15, 2013 at 12:05 pm

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Chrispydelic

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Probably. Just buy some mandy. That meph stuff is awful!
June 15, 2013 at 1:01 pm

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know_hope

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some people do this stuff all the time, so you’ll probably be fine as its only your 1st time, but yeh probably not a great drug to do if you want to smash it

hope you feel better
June 15, 2013 at 1:34 pm

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The Psyentist

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Yeah it is a pretty merciless chemical. Give it half a chance and this substance will ravage your mind and body.

Sporadic use probably won’t do any lasting damage but why risk it when there are better and less harmful drugs available; as you mentioned in your own posts MDMA and mushrooms are out there, go and get them:wink:
June 15, 2013 at 2:13 pm

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leveret

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that sounds bout normal for 5 phat lines say at least 500 mg in a sesh which is quite a lot. these methylones are really racy for the heart and give a heavy load so take it ez for today m8. even tho it’s so more-ish.
mdma much less bad for you if you can get it
June 15, 2013 at 3:30 pm

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Tzzer

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cheers chaps. feeling a lot better now, although fuck me is my throat raw!
June 15, 2013 at 4:09 pm

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Pat McDonald

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Glad to hear it. All chemicals have a cost. Even sugar.

I’m pretty sure Leah Betts died of fluid imbalance. It’s amazing how a little bit of “not knowing” fucks up or even kills people.:bounce_g:
June 15, 2013 at 4:40 pm

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leveret

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coroner said leah died from fluid imbalance and he should know, regardless of all the rug danger sh*t that went around afterwards.
June 15, 2013 at 6:45 pm

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Tzzer

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if i remember correctly (i did ‘should mdma be a class a drug?’ as my year 11 biology case study :satisfied) she drank 12 pints of water without dancing or even moving, thus not sweating it out. add that to the anti-diuretic qualities of mdma and you got yourself a problem
June 15, 2013 at 8:52 pm

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korno

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it’s pretty dirty stuff, i don’t know why people advise chilling out when you’re in that state as the best thing for it is to go with the drug not against it, find something to occupy yourself wether it be physically stimulating, (cleaning the house, find a club to go dance at) or mentally stimulating (research something you’re interested in on the net, browse, talk to people online)
June 16, 2013 at 2:37 am

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@korno 549371 wrote:

it’s pretty dirty stuff, i don’t know why people advise chilling out when you’re in that state as the best thing for it is to go with the drug not against it, find something to occupy yourself wether it be physically stimulating, (cleaning the house, find a club to go dance at) or mentally stimulating (research something you’re interested in on the net, browse, talk to people online)

The reason I say chill out is that he was mentioning heart problems that he was having … if you’ve done way too much stimulants, it’s really not a good idea to start doing exercise and raising your heart rate even more as this is when people can start keeling over from heart attacks or other cardiovascular problems from stimulant use. I took too much of a stim once and my heart was hurting when it was beating, was really badly palpitating and fluttering. It wasn’t right after that for a year and mby more! I spent 2 days trying to chill out and sleep … if I’d of gone out raving or tried to tidy the house I’d probably not be here right now. 😛

The way I see it is it;s better to be safe then sorry, and as he’d already mentioned heart issues he was having under the influence of it, i think it’s probably the better idea to try and not strain your self more. I mean if he said he was bored and couldn’t find anything to occupy himself whilst rushing, yeah go to a rave, clean the house … but when you feel like you’re hearts about to give out, I wouldn’t suggest doing things like that.

I’d personally include reading something as chilling out, I didn’t necessarily mean meditate or anything like that … just don’t start doing any marathons or anything. 😛
June 16, 2013 at 5:47 am

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Deez

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the whole point is as a research chemical we don’t know

don’t be the guinea pig mate it ain’t worth it, i’ve got discoloured knuckles and tuckles (toe knuckles) and bad anxiety depression and memory now and the thing is I still want to do the drug sometimes lol. It ain’t worth it son.
June 16, 2013 at 1:33 pm

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p0ly

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It’s probably not even the official mephe btw as china banned it. it’d be a similar cathinone which are much worse for you tbh. but ya cathinones make some people feel awful benzos at hand are much needed or you might feel wank for awhile
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