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AL-LAD (6-ALLYL; N-(6)-ALLYLNORLYSERGIC ACID)
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From TIHKAL:
DOSAGE : 80 – 160 micrograms
DURATION : 6 – 8 h.
QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 50 ยตg) “I am aware in twenty minutes, and am into a stoned place, not too LSD like, in another hour. I would very much like to push higher, but that is not in the cards today and I must acknowledge recovery by hour eight.”
(with 80 ยตg) “I had a mild effect, although the doors to my repressed feelings somehow really become opened up. There was nothing transcendental here, but there were moments where I felt a conscious separation from the world about me. None of the profound meanings that I had hoped to have explained were explained.”
(with 150 ยตg) “I felt it in less than a quarter hour, and was shooting up past a +++ in another quarter hour. Fast. Just like LSD but without the vaguely sinister push. A little time slowing, randy, no body disturbance. Dropping at six hours and totally tired and going to sleep at twelve hours. I will repeat.”
(with 150 ยตg) “Simply beautiful. Erotic and music absorption after second hour. Clear thinking with superb imagery and good interpretation. Easy, gentle sleeping. Next day — serene, clear-thinking peacefulness. One of the best materials ever.”
(with 160 ยตg) “I took 160 ug at 11 AM on an empty stomach and lay down to listen to a hypnotic relaxing tape, with eye shades and headphones. The onset was very gradual over two or three hours. There was some visual distortion similar to LSD, but mild. I decided that this was about as intense as it was going to get, so I lay down in the living room with the others. The experience continued to intensify over the next hour in intermittent waves. I had to verify that I was actually in a physical room rather than in the music I was hearing. There was never any fear or panic, but I chose to retreat to a private place for the next couple of hours. Soon I started to feel worse and I tried to gain some insight and relief from my negative attitude. I prayed, and I cried, and I began to feel calmer and had more positive thoughts as to how to deal with the others, but I was still afraid to go out into the group. I was afraid that my hopelessness would bother them but I eventually went back out at about the five hour point and the rest of the day was spent pleasantly and smoothly. I took 2.5 g of L-tryptophan to sleep, and I slept well, waking twice.”
(with 160 ยตg) “I pretreated myself with 40 milligrams of inderal 40 minutes beforehand, took the AL-LAD, and went to bed with eye-shades and ear-phones. There was a very slow onset. The effects were best described as very short bursts of loss of contact with my body, which became increasingly intense and frequent as things progressed. It became really trippy, like acid. There were no visuals with my eyes closed, but when I removed my eye-shades the floors were melting, and the wall patterns and the wood ceiling really flowed. My body felt very blob-like, and I had to get help from my sitter to get up so I could pee. I was very affected by music. There was a very long down-ramp, with physical excitation appearing to linger longer than psychic excitation. Pretty much out of it by 12 hours and I felt well the next day.”
(with 200 ยตg) “This was taken on the tail end (seventh hour) of an MDMA experience. I felt it quickly, but it never got to a super level. Complicated erotic, good talking, looked pretty stoned, and yet I still had cognitive integrity.”
Loads of glowing UK based reports floating round the net recently as it turns out its legal (or at least grey area in the UK) and a new synthesis route that doesn’t require LSD has been found, a fair few reputable UK vendors have it in stock. Mostly 150ug blotters with “AL-LAD” stamped on them in black to prevent misrepresentation as LSD, although raw powder is meant to be about too. I’ve ordered 3 blotters due to my overwhelming curiosity and love of lysergimides (LSD and LSA)
I will let you know how it goes this weekend.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, at ยฃ25 for 3 blotters theyre not exactly cheap either.
Looks interesting. I have been reading up on it today. I’ve seen it mentioned before a number of times and have read the THiKAL entry but have never heard of it circulating till now.
AL-LAD seems promising from what I’ve read. The duration of the trip looks very appealing and the effects profile. My only doubting are the chemical vendors themselves. How do they actually know they are selling the real deal. AL-LAD is already rare as it is and using a different synth route not requiring LSD is quite weird. I suppose it could be something to do with LSA(?). I have no real idea. Pricing is very similiar to good acid around at the moment so Im a little confused at the pricing if the synth route is more complicated…
I’ve seen LSZ too which rings bells from that Vice LSD Underground Lab documentry. Its what Todd Skinner was developing apparently.
I’ll have to read up on some more trip reports.
Nice find though! Its got me quite excited.
@Sychonaut 553555 wrote:
Looks interesting. I have been reading up on it today. I’ve seen it mentioned before a number of times and have read the THiKAL entry but have never heard of it circulating till now.
AL-LAD seems promising from what I’ve read. The duration of the trip looks very appealing and the effects profile. My only doubting are the chemical vendors themselves. How do they actually know they are selling the real deal. AL-LAD is already rare as it is and using a different synth route not requiring LSD is quite weird. I suppose it could be something to do with LSA(?). I have no real idea. Pricing is very similiar to good acid around at the moment so Im a little confused at the pricing if the synth route is more complicated…
I’ve seen LSZ too which rings bells from that Vice LSD Underground Lab documentry. Its what Todd Skinner was developing apparently.
I’ll have to read up on some more trip reports.
Nice find though! Its got me quite excited.
A certain vendor on another forum I can’t mention here was working on getting it synthed about a year ago, it was cost that got in the way I believe. Chemistry moves on just like every science, while it may not have been possible to synthesise AL-LAD without LSD 10 years ago (making that way seems largely pointless from a business point of view) its certainly extemely profitable to find a different route excluding LSD, where there’s a will theres a way. The GS data, ehrlich reagent test and TRs from established members of said forum in the vendors thread are enough to convince me to buy. If I cant taste anything much on the blotter and/or feel effects after swallowing it that will rule out nbome/DOx/a lot of other chems, plus im quite familiar with the lysergic feeling so it seems quite unlikely it could be anything else if all goes well. If the blotter tastes of anything im spitting it for sure.
I’ve heard of this stuff before and it’s supposed to be really good, but it’s pricy because it’s rare and a bugger to synthesise. Sounds like it might be a lot of fun though.
AL-LAD Trip Report 11/08/13
[T-00:00] Me and S take 75ug of AL-LAD on blotter at 4:20PM
[T-01:05] Another 75ug swallowed. Very slow definitely LSD feeling come up so far but more relaxed. Very mild OEVs and quite strong CEVs. Clear headed but noticeable psychedelic mindstate sets in.
[T-1:15] Strong metallic taste in mouth. S agrees he is in same state after trying to explain what LSD feels like to to him as he has not tried it. Both of us are very euphoric.
[T-1:27] Both noticing color distortions. Came on quite rapidly. Euphoria climbing. Things are breathing.
[T-1:48] Small pupil dilation. Come on strong now. Major color enhancement, strong trails. Its so uncanny in similarity to LSD. Text on phone swimming about.
[T-1:51] S: “Ive got tons of energy, could kick a football around if I wanted to” The combo with the joint we smoked has increased the euphoria 10 fold.
[T-1:55] Everything is goo. “Like walking on a water bed”
[T-2:17] Very hard to function normally. S just described acid shivers without knowing what there where previously. I get them infrequently throughout the trip. I saw a cloud flash neon colors. The edges of clouds are fractals that enlessly manifest.
[T-2:22] Had a woaaah moment *looking at the intense patterns in the sky.
[T-2:40] Keep getting into little loops. Hahah, there is a little bit of mindfuckery going on.
[T-2:45] Hard +++. About the same stimulation as a very small amount of MDMA. Speech impediment pretty bad, S just said phils instead of pills and I cracked up. We both have twisted smiles on our faces.
[T-2:51] *I can feel my body shifting with the music. Full on empathy with every little beat in the music. From dark and menacing to open and euphoric. S just tried to tell me this as I was writing it. Very much in sync.
[T-3:00] Very bad giggles. Laughing feels good. Even writing giggle makes me smile ๐
[T-3:40] Hitting a peak I think. Insane closed eye visuals. Mine and S depth perception fucked, S tried to light a cigarette about 10cm away from the tip of it.
[T-4:25] Definitely hit peak and now plateau. Fully submersed in the trip. Will be difficult to update till later. Full lysergimide style trip much closer to LSD than LSA (HBWR/Morning glory seeds)
We messed about with glowsticks in the dark watching the solid trails and a friend came to say hello. Smoked some weed and chatted for a bit. Still a good +++ but a little more coherent now.
[T-5:40] S notices a decline in the effects.
[T-6:10] I notice the visuals start to withdraw.
[T-6:39] ++ now
[T-7:00] We smoke a large spliff and the OEVs come back full force. Trails get stronger and a glowstick balanced on a bottle starts to crackle with energy and warp.
[T-7:30] S goes home. I get in to mine have something to eat and play some xbox still tripping mildly.
[T-10:00] Fall asleep.
Day after I feel a bit tired but happy and satisfied. The only differences between this a LSD is the shorter duration, far less body load and easier to handle head trips (which could be seen as benefits.) I’d say 150ug of AL-LAD is the equivalent of 100ug of LSD roughly. Both me and S agree it’s a good intro dose but we want to try higher. I plan on taking 225ug next time to see if the trip kicks up a notch. It has put itself alongside what I consider to be proper psychedelics: DMT, mushrooms, mescaline, LSD, 4-HO-MET, DOM and 2C-E with one light/medium dose, DOM did the same ๐
Watch out! This is a keeper ๐
Nice report mate.
This has even tempted me, and I very rarely even take acid.
I was told about this substance last week and might get some some time soon. Will have to consult a retired trip buddy of mine if he wants to go back to work for a day for this one. ๐
Thanks. It’s definatly a special chemical, I can’t recommend it enough. It’s got to be one of the easiest trips I’ve ever had. Pure bliss :cloud9:
sounds fucking sweet dude! defo gonna have to grab some of this since lucy went on holiday
@joksgez 553695 wrote:
sounds fucking sweet dude! defo gonna have to grab some of this since lucy went on holiday
As I said to my mate, “Lucy’s back. In fancy new clothes” ๐
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