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  • Hi ya’ all.

    I’ve recently noticed, some fucked up things, when i’m drinking. Mostly when im drinking spirits, is it going crazy.

    Its like im changing into a whole new person, a really agrreessive person. Not a person I like. I will provoke people, start fights, and just act like i was the toughest person on the earth, even tho im just a silly fucked up kid.

    And i know, there is some people whom just not can tolerate alcohol. And i am of course one of those, but i just think, that my situation is extra ordinary.

    When i was 15, i was on several oxydrolone cures (steroids) and I pressume it’s the reason why? Is there anyone, who knows a similar situation, and can explain me, what the fuck there is wrong with me? I just really want a diagnosis about this.

    I’m a daily marijuana smoker, and i’ve been it for almost 1½ year. I’ve had overall 1 badtrip, and it was the first time i tried it. I haven’t yet tried other drugs. And i am also really in doubt, if i should do it, if it would be worse than drinking.

    I hope my little story goes out to you.

    Sincerly Wirison.

    Dunno, I am a happy and amusing drunk!

    Makes me view life in a negative way, a thing that would make me go “well fuck!” sober would make me think “thats the worst thing that could have possibly happened to me” after a few pints..

    Horrible life ruining drug, many many futures ruined.. Funny how most alcoholics or people who drink heavily would tell you “aaaaah I hate drugs! Yobs!” while sipping on a beer.. Really makes me chuckle.

    I’ve lost several great friends from alcohol incidents and made great ones from MDMA incidents.

    Just sounds like your body doesn’t agree with alcohol. I highly doubt your case is unique; loads of people become aggressive when inebriated. Everybody behaves and thinks different when drunk; same applies to most substances. I’m not going to encourage the use of other drugs, but I will say just because you react badly to alcohol doesn’t mean you’ll respond negatively to other things.

    if alcohol brings out your bad side stick to pot and own it… it’s better to know that drinking is having a negative effect on you as a person and the life you are trying to live than to keep on drinking just because it is the socially fashionable thing to do. just be careful not to fall into pot as your identity or you will end up a bit of a pot head with nothing else going for you.

    as for 1 trip(i’m presuming LSD)… 1 trip probably isn’t enough to really judge from, but if by your estimation it was a bad trip then you might as well steer clear of it. it being a bad trip could be just a coincidence, but judging by how you describe yourself as a drinker it is possible that you might have some anger or ego issues that are unresolved and these would manifest quickly while tripping and induce a bad trip. so it’s probably good to just leave acid as is… which leads me to my next paragraph

    after digesting your post intellectually I can haphazardly recommend MDMA as something that can dissolve these issues that come out whilst drinking(don’t combine the 2 but thats a whole other ball of yarn). if you can source quality MDMA then you could perhaps really improve yourself as a person a subsequently return to drinking if you so choose and be a totally different person whilst drinking. read up on the positive empathogen qualities of MDMA. some would be quick to link empathogen-entactogen’s together and tell you to steer clear of anything stronger than pot… up to you pal.

    @wirison 561360 wrote:

    Hi ya’ all.

    I’ve recently noticed, some fucked up things, when i’m drinking. Mostly when im drinking spirits, is it going crazy.

    Its like im changing into a whole new person, a really agrreessive person. Not a person I like. I will provoke people, start fights, and just act like i was the toughest person on the earth, even tho im just a silly fucked up kid.

    And i know, there is some people whom just not can tolerate alcohol. And i am of course one of those, but i just think, that my situation is extra ordinary.

    When i was 15, i was on several oxydrolone cures (steroids) and I pressume it’s the reason why? Is there anyone, who knows a similar situation, and can explain me, what the fuck there is wrong with me? I just really want a diagnosis about this.

    I’m a daily marijuana smoker, and i’ve been it for almost 1½ year. I’ve had overall 1 badtrip, and it was the first time i tried it. I haven’t yet tried other drugs. And i am also really in doubt, if i should do it, if it would be worse than drinking.

    I hope my little story goes out to you.

    Sincerly Wirison.

    I get exactly the same on a lot of booze. I’ve got past the point where I can say “oh it’s just the booze making me be like that” as I fully well know it makes me get like that if i drink too much, so I should know better then to drink and get like that, so I try not to.

    Drugs effect diferant people differently, including booze, depending on their brain chemistry. Unfortunately, booze effects you in this way, and there’s nothing really much more to it then that. It’s just how it is.

    @Digital Buddha 561383 wrote:

    if alcohol brings out your bad side stick to pot and own it… it’s better to know that drinking is having a negative effect on you as a person and the life you are trying to live than to keep on drinking just because it is the socially fashionable thing to do. just be careful not to fall into pot as your identity or you will end up a bit of a pot head with nothing else going for you.

    as for 1 trip(i’m presuming LSD)… 1 trip probably isn’t enough to really judge from, but if by your estimation it was a bad trip then you might as well steer clear of it. it being a bad trip could be just a coincidence, but judging by how you describe yourself as a drinker it is possible that you might have some anger or ego issues that are unresolved and these would manifest quickly while tripping and induce a bad trip. so it’s probably good to just leave acid as is… which leads me to my next paragraph

    after digesting your post intellectually I can haphazardly recommend MDMA as something that can dissolve these issues that come out whilst drinking(don’t combine the 2 but thats a whole other ball of yarn). if you can source quality MDMA then you could perhaps really improve yourself as a person a subsequently return to drinking if you so choose and be a totally different person whilst drinking. read up on the positive empathogen qualities of MDMA. some would be quick to link empathogen-entactogen’s together and tell you to steer clear of anything stronger than pot… up to you pal.

    Oh no no. It was not LSD. I’m sorry if that was how i expressed it. It was a badtrip on weed. I will try to go in and read that. Thanks for the try of giving me a diagnose. It has opended my eyes a little bit more.

    In 2009, a friend I went to uni with was king hit outside a pub in Glasgow for no reason by a man who had a history of alcohol related violence. His head hit the pavement, and he sustained massive brain injuries. He survived, but now needs constant care from his parents, who are in there 60’s (he can’t do anything on his own, he can’t even speak). My friend was an exceptional human being, highly intelligent, a brilliant pianist, spoke several languages, and was a beautiful, gentle man. He was engaged at the time as well (needless to say, his fiance left him).

    His life has been ruined, along with his parents, and the offenders, who is still in prison.

    Maybe try to drink in moderation (drink slowly, don’t get drunk, drink light beer, whatever). Some people react badly to alcohol, and it can make them aggressive/violent, but if you can’t drink responsibly, you shouldn’t drink AT ALL.

    I’m sure your not an evil person or anything, I just want to highlight the fact that this kind of thing happens a lot, so be careful when you drink and stay safe 🙂

    Jess xx

    @wirison 561403 wrote:

    Oh no no. It was not LSD. I’m sorry if that was how i expressed it. It was a badtrip on weed. I will try to go in and read that. Thanks for the try of giving me a diagnose. It has opended my eyes a little bit more.

    i think it wasn’t you representing it as having done LSD, more just my myopic interpretation having done LSD and other assorted tryptamines I can’t conceive the idea of ‘tripping’ on marijuana. Sounds like you had a little freakout the first time you smoked(lots do) but now you’re a pretty good stoner.

    As far as it goes Tuskateer has some good words of wisdom and a topical story about the issues surrounding alcohol. You can try to drink and keep your cool or you can ditch it, unfortunately alcohol is a social lubricant and by abstaining you can sort of miss out. but again if you turn into a jerk when you drink it’s probably not leading to anything socially fruitful, so it’s really awash and you aren’t missing out by not drinking.

    As for the oxydrolone when you were 15, i think you are right to suspect that it may have had some sort of morphing effect on your personality and that alcohol brings this out. Unfortunately i don’t know of what the fuck all can be done about it at this point

    On an observational level i’ve seen people who could drink beer all night every night and be “chill” s but if they had one sip of hard liquor they would be angry.

    just some thoughts

    high testosterone levels can be the reason for acting like a total c*nt when your pissed. people who take testosterone boosting supplements are warned about this effect

    @cozmic 561922 wrote:

    high testosterone levels can be the reason for acting like a total c*nt when your pissed. people who take testosterone boosting supplements are warned about this effect

    ^^ this.

    I’ve got high testosterone (started going bald at 19 because of it!).

    @DaftFader 561959 wrote:

    I’ve got high testosterone (started going bald at 19 because of it!).

    Whatever dude, you’re just making up excuses 😛

    @The Psyentist 561970 wrote:

    Whatever dude, you’re just making up excuses 😛

    Years ago my mate used to have this dog called Brittany, every time I’d go over there house for a smoke the dog would get up on the sofa behind me, put its too paws over each of my shoulders from behind and start licking my head lol.

    @DaftFader 561959 wrote:

    ^^ this.

    I’ve got high testosterone (started going bald at 19 because of it!).

    @The Psyentist 561970 wrote:

    Whatever dude, you’re just making up excuses 😛

    All men who are short in stature have high testosterone (which is why they tend to be historically good at winning wars and/or operating in competitive environments) ; but those who are of North European ancestry are far more likely to go bald at early ages, irrespective of their height. Ethnicity can have some effect, but I am not sure if North European males are that much more prone to aggression after using alcohol than anyone else. It is claimed men of Asian ancestry are less likely to get involved in fights when drunk; and alcohol relaxes them more; but most evidence comes from monitoring adult Japanese or Singaporean males in a skilled, well paid job in high tech industry, who are going drinking as part of work-related socialising.

    Middle class men who have families and/or decent jobs are smart enough to realise its not a good idea to get into pissed up fights and get hurt or arrested as it puts everything else at risk; and for most of the 20th century CCTV with recording facilities has been present in public spaces (their employers most likely supplied the kit watching them!). I’ve discussed booze (and drugs) with chaps who grew up in England and mainland Europe (and whose families are of North European descent) who worked for the PTT/ British Telecom, Philips, Marconi, Plessey etc (big European employers until the 1990s/2000s) and they all consumed astounding quantities of beer, spirits and other stuff as well; but they never got into serious fights/trouble for the same reasons.

    Although I lead a peaceful existence whenever possible. I’m honest enough to admit this is just because its not rational for someone of my background, living in peacetime in a prosperous European country and not suffering any major life problems to physically attack another person. Also not being physically large, I would have to do a “proper job of it” which results in arrest and (outside of self defence) prison/secure mental home, even a self-defence case has to be proven in Court (which even if you don’t get a long sentence still causess you life problems and puts your family in constant danger). So as I’ve got a reasonable quality of life, I keep out of trouble. I’ve seen people act in very strange and unpleasant ways on other drugs as well as booze, as well as heavy drinkers who were no threat to anyone in spite of being from other minority groups often blamed for boozing and fighting. Long term soft drugs/party drugs added to the pressures of growing up can also cause mood swings leading to aggressive incidents.

    I do not think my race makes me “less violent” (or my height potentially more so), and in my youth there might well have been times when I was safer to the rest of society drunk (or on any other drugs) than when sober. I still think prohibition of party drugs is a flawed concept, but behaving like a twat on any drug (including alcohol) unfortunately is used to justify it, even more so as the authorities in modern European nations now consider problems from alcohol use to be the same as those from controlled drugs, but what discourages decrim is a fear that people will do a shit ton of everything at once and there will be complete havoc on the street rather than a big party….

    @DaftFader 561959 wrote:

    ^^ this.

    I’ve got high testosterone (started going bald at 19 because of it!).

    baldness is from a lack of testosterone receptors.

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