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July 5, 2014 at 8:25 am

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Cant roll

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Hi, I would like to thank you in advance. I was wonder if you all could help me. My good friend (slim) has tried e five times and molly twice. All of the times slim has taken with friends. Every time his friends have had an amazing time. One night he even took 6 molly capsules…. Every time slim failed to roll. He then began to research and found out that prozac can block the effects. He was ready to get off of prozac anyway and decided to quit. 5 weeks later slim and a friend took molly. The friend had a blast and slim failed again. My question is (and pleeeeeese spare the “don’t do drugs” lecture) what is going on? Are there some people that molly doesn’t work for? Does slim need more time off of prozac? Any suggestions are more than welcome and slim looks forward to rolling someday. It’s like trying to play pool with a noodle, it just won’t work for slim. Thanks all and please no lectures, he knows the danger and is willing to risk it for the thrill. Thanks again. Cheers!! Btw he takes no meds at all for five weeks now.
July 6, 2014 at 1:31 am

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The Psyentist

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I’ve heard of rare occasions where people may react negatively or strange to xtc/molly/mdma, and is an individual response usually linked to their brain chemistry.

But I’ve never heard of someone being completely non-responsive to the stuff, unless they get fake gear of course.

It is unlikely that he is ‘immune’ to the effects of mdma, more likely the prozac is still in his system. If they really really want to roll then I’d suggest 6week-2month without prozac and try again. Although I’m certainly nor offering this as medical advice as your friend is likely on the prozac for a reason
July 6, 2014 at 1:52 am

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Digital Buddha

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i knew a girl who when she’d roll it’d only be for like 15 minutes, like the peak experience and nothing else. i don’t know why this happened for her, but some people just don’t get the standard reaction off of drugs because of a quirk in their neurosoup.

like psy said its probably the prozac although it conceivably could be something else and we’re just blaming the prozac.
July 6, 2014 at 3:55 am

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Cant roll

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I’m leaning toward the prozac also. At least I’m hoping so.
July 7, 2014 at 5:37 am

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Cant roll

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@Can’t roll 563262 wrote:

I’m leaning toward the prozac also. At least I’m hoping so.

Anyone ? Bueller….Bueller..
July 7, 2014 at 5:47 am

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RaD

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Okay, This annoys me greatly; when people say that molly and e are different drugs. BOTH are one chemical, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, correct?
July 7, 2014 at 6:20 am

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Cant roll

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Yes correct BUT one is usually cut and one is usually not
July 7, 2014 at 2:13 pm

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DangerousDave1

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@RaD 563305 wrote:

Okay, This annoys me greatly; when people say that molly and e are different drugs. BOTH are one chemical, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, correct?

Same drug (supposed to be anyway) Americans get “molly” which is usually a powder, and could be genuinely anything you can imagine..

We in the UK 95% of the time get “mandy” which comes in a crystal which you have to crush up into a consumable powder.. Much more likely to be the chemical which you name.
July 7, 2014 at 2:43 pm

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RaD

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@DangerousDave1 563327 wrote:

Same drug (supposed to be anyway) Americans get “molly” which is usually a powder, and could be genuinely anything you can imagine..

We in the UK 95% of the time get “mandy” which comes in a crystal which you have to crush up into a consumable powder.. Much more likely to be the chemical which you name.

Right you are on that molly is supposed to be. According to the book “Pharmacology and Abuse of Cocaine, Amphetamine, Ecstasy and Related Designer Drugs” By Enno Freye and Joseph V. Levy, common adulterants commonly used in MDMA tablets include: Heroin, Amphetamine, Methamphetamine, LSD, Caffeine, APAP and various inert ingredients. You never know what you’re getting!
July 7, 2014 at 3:13 pm

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Cant roll

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Agreed
July 7, 2014 at 4:33 pm

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DangerousDave1

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@RaD 563328 wrote:

Right you are on that molly is supposed to be. According to the book “Pharmacology and Abuse of Cocaine, Amphetamine, Ecstasy and Related Designer Drugs” By Enno Freye and Joseph V. Levy, common adulterants commonly used in MDMA tablets include: Heroin, Amphetamine, Methamphetamine, LSD, Caffeine, APAP and various inert ingredients. You never know what you’re getting!

Pills are a bit more of a dangerous game but ARE getting better these days, you’d do well to find any Heroin in pills, it would make no sense profit margin wise, you’re right about caffeine and amphetamines.. Check out pillreports, pills are much much better these days than of the recent past (mid-late naughties), most containing MDxx substance as the only active ingredient, maybe 1/20 reviews contain adulterated pills. Good news for anyone who takes pills, but still, they need to test.
July 7, 2014 at 4:44 pm

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RaD

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@DangerousDave1 563335 wrote:

Pills are a bit more of a dangerous game but ARE getting better these days, you’d do well to find any Heroin in pills, it would make no sense profit margin wise, you’re right about caffeine and amphetamines.. Check out pillreports, pills are much much better these days than of the recent past (mid-late naughties), most containing MDxx substance as the only active ingredient, maybe 1/20 reviews contain adulterated pills. Good news for anyone who takes pills, but still, they need to test.

When I read the book I got the heroin bit from I was a bit confused because I was fairly certain heroin is worth more than MDMA, right?
July 7, 2014 at 4:52 pm

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Cant roll

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I’ve had some experience with aphetamixxx many years ago. Many pills that I’ve tried gave that feeling. Never felt a downer at all in my experiments. I chewed one and it my mouth numb making me think coca%#^.
July 7, 2014 at 5:05 pm

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DangerousDave1

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@RaD 563339 wrote:

When I read the book I got the heroin bit from I was a bit confused because I was fairly certain heroin is worth more than MDMA, right?

I’ve never had any experience with H, but I am led to believe that it is much more valuable than MDMA..

Pills that contain MDEA (drug very chemically similar to MDMA) are said to be sedating, many believe that this is where the “heroin” rumors have come from
July 7, 2014 at 5:26 pm

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RaD

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@Can’t roll 563342 wrote:

I’ve had some experience with aphetamixxx many years ago. Many pills that I’ve tried gave that feeling. Never felt a downer at all in my experiments. I chewed one and it my mouth numb making me think coca%#^.

Cocaine pressed into a pill? Not likely. It was most likely a bulking agent like benzocaine or lidocaine. Though I’ve never heard of benzocaine or lidocaine used in MDMA tablets.Or any for that matter. Dextro/Amphetamine salts usually taste sweet from my experience, but then again it could have been some inactive ingredient in the pill to get little ADD/ADHD kids to like their meds.
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