Any More Interesting Tryptamines?

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September 14, 2014 at 9:07 pm

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tryptameanie

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I just had another look through the ACMDs report and I hadn’t noticed something when I read it previously. I thought that 5-MeO-MALT and 4-HO-DALT had escaped the ban but the generic description of tryptamines is being expanded to includen everything I know is currently available (report here:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/318693/UpdateGenericDefinitionTryptamines.pdf, part 15) plus all lysergides, even ones that I’ve never seen anywhere (ETH and PRO-LAD). Then on top of that, another 7-9 that don’t fit the description are being banned by name.

Looking through TIHKAL, quickly, I didn’t notice anything interesting left that had a full synthesis listed that wouldn’t be covered, but on the AL-LAD page was a mention of PARGY-LAD that I don’t believe would be covered, but that’s all I saw. Anyone else know of anything I missed.

I hope to god Ann Shulgin is going to fulfill Sasha’s plan to release the Shulgin Index part 2.

EDIT:Bollocks, PARGY-LAD is gone as well.
September 14, 2014 at 11:57 pm

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The Psyentist

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All I can say is ‘what a cunt’. Not aware of any legitimate uses, we won’t look into it though, we’ll just remain ignorant fools.

Seriously though, I couldn’t really care less. For the more persistent and dedicated users, this will be a small obstacle. Especially with the emergence of the deep web over the years, acquisition is just a matter of searching.
September 15, 2014 at 12:58 am

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Digital Buddha

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it is very banned and has been for a long time(you need to go through LSD-25 to synth it) but ALD-52 is bad ass.
September 15, 2014 at 1:32 pm

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tryptameanie

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@Digital Buddha 566659 wrote:

it is very banned and has been for a long time(you need to go through LSD-25 to synth it) but ALD-52 is bad ass.

I had noticed that you had to go through the synthesis of LSD-25 to make the lysegamides but that this had apparently not been an issue as AL-LAD is, only just, still legal and ETH, PRO and AL-LAD are going to be added by name instead of an expanded definition (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/322432/AddendumTryptamines.pdf).

On a side note and on something The Psyentist said, Bromo-LSD is being removed from classification as it, surprise surprise, has a medical use. How these fuckwits can say something has no medical use with zero testing is beyond me. Both mephedrone and 6-APB have medical uses but now can’t be used as they have “no medical use”
September 17, 2014 at 4:13 am

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Digital Buddha

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hey you win some and you lose some, Bromo-LSD is a huge help for cluster headache sufferers, thank god it is going legal.

Was reading about psilocybin in a research study as a smoking cessation aid.

after the levels of abuse of drone is it any suprise for it to get sent to banned camp?

at least you don’t have the DEA with emergency scheduling powers and shite like that.
September 17, 2014 at 8:39 am

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tryptameanie

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@Digital Buddha 566762 wrote:

hey you win some and you lose some, Bromo-LSD is a huge help for cluster headache sufferers, thank god it is going legal.

Was reading about psilocybin in a research study as a smoking cessation aid.

after the levels of abuse of drone is it any suprise for it to get sent to banned camp?

at least you don’t have the DEA with emergency scheduling powers and shite like that.

According to David Nutt,. while mephedrone was legal coke deaths went down by 20% so as you say theirs good and bad.
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