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Something I’ve written about many times in the past but maybe not here. What seemed like a progressive NPS policy has been a joke almsot since the start. Here’s the link but this has been obviously if you’d looked at all the stupid legislation tacked onto the original bill has left the country in a worse situation than the one they tried to improve.
War on drugs: The Kiwi comedown has lessons for all – opinion – 12 January 2015 – New Scientist
Nice article brother, our neighbours have always been far ahead when it comes to a workable practical solution. Its sad to see the good work is being hock tied.
I remember when bzp came out – it was so different safe and clean,it was only when the kiwigovernment imposed additives that it turned into that product that every body hated. It was one of my fav party drugs sans that “living death,”feeling if you chose to drink with it. Ask any kiwi what they were like. P was rabid then, those young dudes should be seen as crusaders in coming up with a safer option
What has surprised me though is all this good work is avoiding the real problem which is booze amongst the bros, a drunk 160kg bro is going to cause more destruction. Than a ,75kg munta??
The NZ farce sounded excellent but from almost the start it was obvious this wasn’t going to be an experiment that would show the world how it should be done.
I did a big write up on the issue a long time ago on another forum with all gov documents and ammendments etc and it was obviously bad. All hte vendors who got temporary licenses given until the law started allowing chems were stripped of those licenses, all importers had licenses stripped etc and now, in order to show that these chems that are to be detrmined have minimal risk assosciated with them, they have banned any data that comes from animal testing and just who in their right fucking mind is gonna say fine, that must mean we’re fine to test on humans cos they are far less likely to die or whatever.
I’ll find my report and repost it here for you good chaps.
to put this into perspective; about 7 years ago Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia all stopped with the death penalty for small time drugs use and even dealing. They decided (wisely) that if all 3 countries did the same there wouldn’t be a rise in cross border dealing and/or drugs tourism; and the remaining levels of usage could be sorted out via public healthcare procedures as well as criminal justice systems.
In the interim years, although MY and SG still do not use the death penalty for drugs (the only recent death sentence in Malaysia is likely to be that of the young man who stabbed to death two British tourists after a sketchy argument), Indonesia went from a military government to a 100% democratic one with proportional representation and one of the worlds lowest voting ages – 17 as opposed to 18. This makes them “more democratic” than NL, their former colonisers!
The Indonesians voted the death penalty for drugs back in 🙁
Unfortunately ID has a much larger country than SG or MY; a bigger population which isn’t as dependent on foreign trade or tourism (it is only less pleasant things made in ID like batteries (nasty chemicals) rather than high value items (laptop components etc)) and a far higher rate of fatal ODs than many other parts of the world (not sure why as no country would make up figures like that; even at the low end of the scale it would be making a dent in the population and in Europe they’d declare a state of emergency if it happened anywhere in the continent).
Of course harsh laws don’t prevent any form of drug use or crime; but when a country doesn’t feel it can “afford to be lenient” these laws tend to be the consequence.
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