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      do u think normal to pay an illegal product with legal money? i think it is normal that as long a product is illegal and expensive, nobody should pay with money from his hard work, that’s why dealing should be normal for addicted persons and shouldn’t been arrested for this if it is made in the way to get their drugs or the state should legalize drugs.

      what are u thinking about this point of view???

      I’m all for not giving drug dealers money for drugs. As you say, us addicts should be able to rob them freely without the fear of repercussions.


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        @Requiem 596391 wrote:

        I’m all for not giving drug dealers money for drugs. As you say, us addicts should be able to rob them freely without the fear of repercussions.

        u should maker a difference between drug dealing for money and those dealing for their consumption as far the quality and price is a good deal for both

        We can get coke, heroin and stims on prescription if things are bad enough but that’s probably pretty rare.

        @iliesse 596376 wrote:

        do u think normal to pay an illegal product with legal money? i think it is normal that as long a product is illegal and expensive, nobody should pay with money from his hard work, that’s why dealing should be normal for addicted persons and shouldn’t been arrested for this if it is made in the way to get their drugs or the state should legalize drugs.

        what are u thinking about this point of view???

        this is to some extent what happens in some areas of Britain (particularly when there is an oversupply of methadone) and although its not really addictive as such many party drugs and stimulants were sold in this sort of way but TBH legalisation is a much better idea.

        the problems we’ve had in UK is that methadone is bulked out with syrup sold in a big, bulky brown bottle that looks like something from a 1950s science lab (so the user is shamed picking it up from the pharmacy to start with as nothing else is sold in that sort of container from a pharmacy). This is also done to try and discourage people from diverting or hoarding it due to the bulk of these containers.

        the other users do not want to be carrying around such containers in the street and will not want the entire contents of this bottle in one go and the addict will need the bulk of it for their own use; the remainder (that is sold to others) is poured off into unsuitable vessels such as drinking glasses instead of a while PTFE container which should at very least have a red border diamond sticker with skull and crossbones warning. The fact the stuff is illegal also makes people paranoid and more likely to use unsafe storage methods.

        if the addicts are parents; there is a real risk their children will find this, drink it (as it is sweet) and be fatal OD victims (some addicts went to prison recently in England because this happened).

        I am not sure how methadone is dispensed elsewhere in Europe but I remember healthcare workers saying that the amount of sugar added to it is potentially as unhealthy as the opiates and it would be far healthier to let these addicts take the heroin in controlled doses in a safe environment.

        A bigger problem is British people particularly hate paying taxes for anything they don’t agree with (compared to folk in DE, DK, NL), they are a bit more aggressive about “not giving in to criminals/enemies” (I think it is the difference between Anglo-Saxons and other Saxons) and don’t realise it costs a lot more to put non violent people in prison than to let them take their drugs in peace. this also means we get immigration from conservatives in those countries which are more liberal – as they are wealthy, white and speak English well they aren’t noticed as immigrants and this shifts our politics to the right of everywhere else in EU.


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          @Requiem 596397 wrote:

          We can get coke, heroin and stims on prescription if things are bad enough but that’s probably pretty rare.

          as i was addicted to hero , my doc tor proposed me to heroin prescription, but going each day 3 times :sign0078::pee:

          cocain is not prescripted in my country :cry::rant::ar15::bad_idea::sign0010::sign0080:

          same with crystal meth, mdma, weed,…


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            @General Lighting 596404 wrote:

            this is to some extent what happens in some areas of Britain (particularly when there is an oversupply of methadone) and although its not really addictive as such many party drugs and stimulants were sold in this sort of way but TBH legalisation is a much better idea.

            the problems we’ve had in UK is that methadone is bulked out with syrup sold in a big, bulky brown bottle that looks like something from a 1950s science lab (so the user is shamed picking it up from the pharmacy to start with as nothing else is sold in that sort of container from a pharmacy). This is also done to try and discourage people from diverting or hoarding it due to the bulk of these containers.

            the other users do not want to be carrying around such containers in the street and will not want the entire contents of this bottle in one go and the addict will need the bulk of it for their own use; the remainder (that is sold to others) is poured off into unsuitable vessels such as drinking glasses instead of a while PTFE container which should at very least have a red border diamond sticker with skull and crossbones warning. The fact the stuff is illegal also makes people paranoid and more likely to use unsafe storage methods.

            if the addicts are parents; there is a real risk their children will find this, drink it (as it is sweet) and be fatal OD victims (some addicts went to prison recently in England because this happened).

            I am not sure how methadone is dispensed elsewhere in Europe but I remember healthcare workers saying that the amount of sugar added to it is potentially as unhealthy as the opiates and it would be far healthier to let these addicts take the heroin in controlled doses in a safe environment.

            A bigger problem is British people particularly hate paying taxes for anything they don’t agree with (compared to folk in DE, DK, NL), they are a bit more aggressive about “not giving in to criminals/enemies” (I think it is the difference between Anglo-Saxons and other Saxons) and don’t realise it costs a lot more to put non violent people in prison than to let them take their drugs in peace. this also means we get immigration from conservatives in those countries which are more liberal – as they are wealthy, white and speak English well they aren’t noticed as immigrants and this shifts our politics to the right of everywhere else in EU.

            i receive since 1992 the methadon for 2 weeks, also with sirop and same brown bottle on pvc brown , thats 14 x 137,5 mg in a liter bottle

            Yeah it’s pretty bad having to go into a chemists every day to get methadone and if they think it’s dignifying to take you in a side room with a cup of green liquid they are wrong, you feel like a complete cunt. Felt far less of a twat buying bottles of codeine linctus n stuff like that but thankfully don’t have to go through that again. I used to hoard doses as well and the amount of space it took up is unreal and as you mentioned, it’s a very real worry when you have kids but the services I’ve used will actually give you a lock box to keep it in if there are kids in the house.

            @iliesse 596406 wrote:

            as i was addicted to hero , my doc tor proposed me to heroin prescription, but going each day 3 times :sign0078::pee:

            cocain is not prescripted in my country :cry::rant::ar15::bad_idea::sign0010::sign0080:

            same with crystal meth, mdma, weed,…

            We issue some prescription benzos and painkillers but that’s getting rarer and I think they are the only drugs of abuse you can be prescribed, if you are lucky.


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              @Requiem 596409 wrote:

              We issue some prescription benzos and painkillers but that’s getting rarer and I think they are the only drugs of abuse you can be prescribed, if you are lucky.

              i think as long the laws are not liberating , controlling the drugs prices cheap, there is no reason i go working and givingn my salary for drugs and wouldn’t be enough. dealing can be made in good ways by giving good prices and quality and shouldn’t be sentenced as far u dont sell to children

              I agree with you bud but our rich old and perverted think otherwise.


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                @Requiem 596408 wrote:

                Yeah it’s pretty bad having to go into a chemists every day to get methadone and if they think it’s dignifying to take you in a side room with a cup of green liquid they are wrong, you feel like a complete cunt. Felt far less of a twat buying bottles of codeine linctus n stuff like that but thankfully don’t have to go through that again. I used to hoard doses as well and the amount of space it took up is unreal and as you mentioned, it’s a very real worry when you have kids but the services I’ve used will actually give you a lock box to keep it in if there are kids in the house.

                thats evident, having a liter of methadone if i had kids would go in a safe, (even more when they are 16, theyc would stole me it (lol). but a doctor do not give to everybody like i receive for 2 weeks even he gave me for 6 monthg when i flew to columbia, but some people have to go each day

                Over here you have to go every day for about a month before they start letting you go every 2 days then every 3 days etc.


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                  @Requiem 596412 wrote:

                  I agree with you bud but our rich old and perverted think otherwise.

                  :Sex Fu::Sex Fu::Sex Fu::Sex Fu::frown: am not old
                  and not rich
                  AND NOT PERVERTED
                  :lol_crash

                  :rant::rant::rant::rant::rant:

                  Was talking about our government LMAO.

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