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The pigs will love reding this here, its their recent press release in surrey. they are right, worst of all. a couple of our mates rigs got nicked and we ran like bitches. check the history behind it at.
http://partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1928
anyway, we are in brighton area now, better to partyu another day, we recon. Here’s the pigs version:
New tactics introduced by Surrey Police to stop raves before they start
have been a big success this summer.
In the spring the force announced a series of pre-emptive tactics designed
to prevent raves from being organized and to move on any illegal outdoor
parties at an early stage.
These included advanced warnings to the owners of vehicles spotted at
gatherings that were broken up last year warning them that if they are
planning to organize or attend an illegal party this year they face arrest
and prosecution; and letters to those suspected of being the organizers of
raves on previous occasions telling them Surrey Police would ask for
Anti-Social Behaviour Orders to be granted against them by the courts if
they are connected with any further activity.
Divisional Commander for East Surrey Chief Superintendent Rob Price said:
“Residents in East Surrey made it clear that they objected to the
disturbance caused by raves and wanted us to take strong action. We came up
with a robust strategy to stop these gatherings from happening and did a
lot of work with our partners in the community to make sure there were
clear lines of communication so that we could step in early if it looked
like an illegal party was being set up.
“I am delighted to say that the result of this is that the only two raves
that attempted to set up on East Surrey were closed down very quickly and
we have had no major problems. I hope this will reassure local people that
Surrey Police is committed to hitting hardest the crimes that matter most
to the people who live here.We are determined to crack down on anti-social
behaviour in any form.”
Surrey Police identified dedicated resources and specially briefed officers
patrolled the county in 4×4 vehicles checking potential rave sites or
reports of suspected rave activity. Members of the public were asked to
report every incident that may lead them to suspect that a rave is being
planned or in progress so that all reports could be promptly and
efficiently investigated. Landowners were briefed on the preparations and
were being encouraged to make their land as inaccessible as possible for
these sort of activities.
The Borough Inspector for the Mole Valley Insp Colin Green said:
“In previous years the Mole Valley has had a particular problem with the
issue of raves. The only two attempts in East Surrey to set up an illegal
outdoor party were in the Mole Valley, and both were thwarted by police as
a result of information given by local people.
“The word seems to have spread that it is not worth the bother of trying to
have a rave in Surrey because we clamp down hard on any of that kind of
activity. We believe that we have displaced the phenomenon to other areas
which don’t have the same kind of tough policies that we do. My message to
them is not to come back, because we will be cracking down just as hard
next year.
and here is my response to the local rag (big up john williams who emailed me askin for my opinion)
We find it ludicrous that while the police and council are worried and confused that none of the local youth hang around surrey and generally stay in their uni town, the powers that be persist in shutting down any part of youth culture not linked with alcohol. Especially as the alcohol culture provides most of the actual disturbances and violent incidents in dorking, alienating the old from the young, and adding to the segregated community vibe of the area. The attitudes of the police has destroyed one of the main / only artistic / creative / social forums in the area which had a cohesively positive effect on the youth culture. Unfortunately your paper was partly responsible (along with the Muppet who torched that house in Coldharbour) for the police’s escalated intolerance of our events, by laying the gauntlet down back in 2002.
One of the prime indicators of the police’s counterproductive policies is the anti graffiti campaign. Am I the only one who saw very little vandalism and graffiti before the police provoked the local youth into rebelling against their new rules? I doubt it. Mr Frieze (try and catch me) and his crew have been activated by the police, along with other graffiti writers in the area, by bringing the art form to the forefront of public consciousness.
The current government has made numerous speeches on the subject of the “great untapped resource” that is our creative youth, yet in one of the richest areas in the country, where the youth have access to artistic materials and technologies, this very precious section of society is oppressed and discouraged. We understand the arguments against our parties in terms of health and safety, policing etc, but surely it would be more productive to funnel some of our councils abundant funding into encouraging these creative elements of the community to integrate to mainstream society instead of criminalising them? I was never optimistic about our chances of survival in our area, but some more naïve people have been shocked by the police’s actions and have been turned against the police and lost faith in the criminal justice system.
If the police would like dorking to stay as it is, in a perpetual state of stagnation, then we salute them for their sterling work. If, on the other hand, the police are trying t make Dorking a safer place, then alienating the youth community, one area at a time, and turning reasonable people into frustrated, antiestablishment, threats to society does not seem like the most effective route to take.
Dorking could be a hive of artistic expression at the forefront of the countries creative scene, populated in part by young people happy and proud to be its residents, proud to enhance the visual state of the town. This will never happen until the council and police start viewing the youth as a valuable asset and not a dangerous threat to their way of life. We are waiting to be activated and integrated, what is there to lose?
hat off to you USE,
it is important to use the media in any ways you can to rebutt the nonsense that is spouted by ‘establishment’ types (police, councillors, tory politicians etc). You could even go so far as to write up a letter saying something along the lines of “what a fantastic free party that was! why aren’t there more of that kind of thing aroubd here for young people?” rather than always being on the defensive…
managed to get local radio on side for Buy Nothing Day last year… and have been involved in a process of changing the local rag’s stance on the health service (previously: less money should be given to hospitals/ more private medicine etc) to a constructively critical stance (now: chief exec is crap, sack the bitch)
if the media think there is untapped readership and a new angle could attract more listeners, viewers, readers, you might be surprised to see shifts in the angle of news presentation.
we must stand up and be heard!
nice one! a pro-rave response which actually addresses the concerns of wider society as well and offers a middle ground solution!
my only (minor) suggestions would be :
Perhaps break up the paragraphs in the same way at each point of argument (the same way the cops press office did). (you may of course have done this in your actual letter!) All the run ons make the block of text hard to read.
Its also worth emphasising there is no deliberate attempt to cause “anti-social” disruption (noise/area denial), steps are taken to minimise this and most walkers/cyclists etc are amused rather than alarmed by these events.
Also (as Surrey, like the Thames Valley is a rich area where people are money-minded) worth adding the financial aspect – surely it costs far more to shut down these events with helicopters, riot police and give out ASBOs than it would for the Council to swallow the cost of licensing public-funded community centres (these, run well, would be unlikely to produce the binge-drinking problems of commercial licensed premises!)
BTW did you know that Surrey police use “raves” as one reason for justifying buying their own helicopter (previously they shared two with metpol)?
I would expect you may receive a further rebuttal from either the Police or other “concerned locals” so be prepared for this. Good luck!
Thank you both for your continued support, and the suggestions are much appreciated. Especially the loons one bout the less defensive, more optimistic articles/ letters, blatantly needed for people to get on side.
All i can say is that i hope this attitude from the police doesn’t spread any further…i dont wanna live in a police state, but the way things are goin its gonna take a LOT of effort.
keep the faith, brothers…
unfortunately TVP and hantspol (two neighbouring forces) are now clamping down as well – loads of people been getting rinsed recently…
but that just means we all have to unite in the SE and show society that this scene is more positive than people realise – remember cops only do what middle england locals tell them to – even the surrey ones said in their pressrel that it was the locals who tipped them off.
I reckon the best we could get is “tolerance zones” (i,e low cost licensed spaces) but thats better than being nicked or having kit confiscated..
incidentally have you ever been in touch with the Guildford Ambient picnic lot? That was amazing, I still can’t believe they got away with that…
Originally posted by General Lighting
but that just means we all have to unite … and show society that this scene is more positive than people realise
I’ve thought for a long time that although the days of massive unlicensed events like castle morton are unlikely to ever happen again, and the truck-life community has been seriously undermined, having a fucking good party with a few hundred people is still totally plausible and safe… as long as each event is well thought out
In the same way you might invite your neighbour to your noisy house warming party secretly hoping they don’t come, but not ashamed or embaressed if they do… invite and inlude the wider community… you might need to compromise a little bit in some aspects of your event, but once a few people realise it’s not all about boshing loads of drugs they might stand up for you!
these days I don’t think that a 90K rig is always needed… we can have loads of fun with two 3K rigs and never even be noticed
underground
Yea the amibient picnic is a marvel… i helped design their website (twas mainly my friend) those guys have walked a tightrope and stayed on, massive respect.
The whole deal with establishing “tolerance zones” is a crucial one, and to be fair, i think it is getting more likely recently, despite the crazy shit spouted by “shagger” Blunket. I will try and pick the brains of the ambient crew, and maybe it would be possible to organise a partyvibe meeting, where we can all actually shake hands and thrash out some ideas. This may be a bastard to organise, and i dont know how up for the mission people will be (i was selfishly thinking hold it south east, cant think of a suitable venue, maybe a cafe or a smokeezy (pm if you wanna specify one).
I intend to have a meeting wit my local rag to see if we can produce a suppliment on the subject of youthfull creative output and leisure in my area, to test the water.
What we need to work on is how to present ourselves in a way that doesn’t alienate wider communities or our free party brethren.
Keep on Keepin on….
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This was ninebar and surge, poor bastards.
We used to run parties wit 9bar- theyre well sound…i wasnt their contact, so when we stopped partyin with them i assumed they’d stopped. havent seen any of em for six months…
Equipment seized at barn ‘rave’
Equipment was seized by police who raided an illegal “rave” being held on land owned by the National Trust.
Amplifiers, speakers, turntables and vinyl records were seized from a barn in Abinger Hammer, Surrey on Saturday.
About 30 people were at the party when officers arrived and found damage to walls and roof of a barn at the beauty spot off Whitedowns Lane.
A lorry and a van found at the scene were being investigated. Police said no arrests have yet been made.
Checking rave sites
Pc Martin Savage said: “No-one was willing to claim ownership of either of the vehicles at the time although we believe we know who owns the lorry and the equipment.
“I am working closely with the National Trust to assess the damage and decide what course of action to take.”
The two vehicles, which were stopped from leaving the site were being investigated for road tax issues, the police said.
Surrey Police have launched a crackdown on illegal raves with officers patrolling the county checking potential sites and investigating reports of the parties.
ic.surreyonline.icnetwork.co.uk
AFAIK 9 bar is still going – they were at the may moot. When is that article dated?
Aye, In fact I think i noticed a 9bar member join up here the other day.
They are expanding the system to new levels of BASS so I hear.
After just doing some snooping I don’t think the above article is about 9bar and surge mate.
Proper Sorry all
– unreliable info – i didnt think it sounded like ninebar – thats what i get for listening to squatjuice… feel like a gibbon now….
…funny tho, was argueing with sparkplug from sq and it turns out ive actually done a few parties with him…random.
not only that, but i posted the wrong link at the bottom of the article, and its from today….thats what iget for canin it up all day on the net and only goin outside once.tit
– unreliable info – i didnt think it sounded like ninebar – thats what i get for listening to squatjuice… feel like a gibbon now….
…funny tho, was argueing with sparkplug from sq and it turns out ive actually done a few parties with him…random.
not only that, but i posted the wrong link at the bottom of the article, and its from today….thats what iget for canin it up all day on the net and only goin outside once.tit
was Lost in Sound. ninebar an surge weren’t there an both have their rigs and are both still partying!!! 😉
cheers for digging this out for my continued embarrasment!
*use hangs his head in shame*
aaah, fuckit, the beginning bits all right, just when i started using info gained from sj trolls, the thread slipped up.
*use holds his head high*
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