so in the grand scheme of things, no-one should post A>N>Y party info on a website in any shape or form on a or a forum as whether sighning in as a no-name or regesterd user as ya ip address can be traced down to ur front door where you will be nicked for organising a illegal rave, selling beer drugs ect ect,
on that same note
no one can discuss between freinds about up and comming partys as they will also find themselves being looked at as a organiser, by mearly talkin of meeting up
when truely the buck stops completely at the people in there trucks setting up and whatever p.a equiptment with 20 or more people or whatever that number is to play repetative music
Is it me or is this incredably hard to present in court?
cops don’t need to bring you before Court to come steaming into your house, taking away computer kit or other equipment etc (which could be a big blow to someone who runs a business such as a studio or legit equipment hire company from home)
I’d like to say this was too bleak a scenario…
but things like this have actually happened…
as early as 1998 someone who just asked about raves in North Wales on the old usenet group uk.music.rave was visited by the heddlu and questioned as to whether he was an organiser- it was a straight visit to his home and the ISP had simply handed over his home address when presented with a Court Order (the old Usenet groups did put a lot of info which could be used to trace a poster in the header)
things were different years ago when people had dial up as their IP address changed every time you logged on, their data was routed through many places and the telephone numbers they dialled often changed – the only sort of people who could do this would be senior engineers at places like BT – and BT would rather have these brainy people working on commercial jobs instead of working for the government.
but now most people have broadband – the broadband infrastructure in most nations is designed with surveillance and montoring in mind – this was done around the time of the dot-com boom and massively stepped up after 9/11. The companies which make the switching centres (telephone exchanges) sell the surveillance kit as part of the solution, as most countries insist on it being available for their law enforcement authorities.
only two companies in the UK control the local circuits from your house to the broadband – BT and NTL – even if your ISP is someone else your main comms infrastructure is run by one of these companies.
Also all internet traffic in the UK is routed through central points where it can be monitored (usually by BT due to their history as a former public service organisation)
both companies have an agreement with Ofcom that if the Police or any other authority approach them with the right paperwork, they will provide all the info the authority needs. Same goes for mobile phones (including non-contract ones) and fixed lines, although for historical reasons it may be harder to get a warrant to monitor voice or content of emails (cops can easily get a list of sites accessed by someone and times used).
realistically its probably only going to be multiriggers or parties where there has been a lot of damage and complaints or violence (because of the costs to the NHS and Ambulance service passing on info) where cops go that far to find info….
and you can still talk about an event after it happened but even namechecking rigs can be dodgy…..
