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  • Who thinks the globalist elite wish to kill us with bio weaopns?

    What do we do to stop em

    We need a revolutionary constitution which will allow us to democratically control the policys of our goverment and local immunity if we dont want to go along with national or global policies

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    sounds like the BNP manifesto in some ways :toxic:

    no, i don’t think the ‘elite’ want to kill ‘us’

    i think they want to enjoy power and take money to make themselves look great

    but that’s about it

    and yeah, more local control could be good, if it didn’t mean loads of duplication of producing polices / social research etc. the difficulty with local political ‘control’ (as demonstrated in scotland and wales to some extent) is that poorer areas depend on the wealth of other areas for survival… like the idea of local income tax touted by the liberal democrats.. it simply would not work (espesh in their strongholds)… i live down devon… we have tons of retired people, lower wages than much of the country and higher cost of living. how are we supposed to pay for that without help from richer areas?

    i think more local production and distribution of essetial goods is a good idea tho. wholeheartedly

    globalloon wrote:
    sounds like the BNP manifesto in some ways :toxic:

    no, i don’t think the ‘elite’ want to kill ‘us’

    i think they want to enjoy power and take money to make themselves look great

    but that’s about it

    and yeah, more local control could be good, if it didn’t mean loads of duplication of producing polices / social research etc. the difficulty with local political ‘control’ (as demonstrated in scotland and wales to some extent) is that poorer areas depend on the wealth of other areas for survival… like the idea of local income tax touted by the liberal democrats.. it simply would not work (espesh in their strongholds)… i live down devon… we have tons of retired people, lower wages than much of the country and higher cost of living. how are we supposed to pay for that without help from richer areas?

    i think more local production and distribution of essetial goods is a good idea tho. wholeheartedly

    It’s a case of elites having a vested interest in the status quo surely?!

    definately. it’s ‘their’ status quo.

    They are building a tyrranical world dictatorship

    They are not happy with the ‘status quo’ trust they want MORE!

    BNP well not quite what I had in mind

    But Nationalism is the way forward how else is a goverment really looking out for its people

    I meant locally as in County level

    If you dont like the local policys go somwhere else!

    simpology

    are there no anarchist locallists who agree with me?

    serious folks its obvious

    monopolization of power leads to corruption

    spread it out among us

    America have been building labs to manufacture bioweapons

    Donald Rumsfield wants a debate on the legitacmy of using ‘race specific’ bio weapons

    serious

    CT23 wrote:

    But Nationalism is the way forward how else is a goverment really looking out for its people

    by ensuring it has a significant place around the global table

    check Iraq

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    I meant locally as in County level

    me too, see my above post. local democracy would fuck the county / whole region if the current democratic winners implemented the polices they preach nationally

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    If you dont like the local policys go somwhere else!

    i’ve lived and worked in 14 countries onfour continents

    and then came back

    simpology

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    are there no anarchist locallists who agree with me?

    as i have little idea what you’re on about it’s a tough question

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    serious folks its obvious

    monopolization of power leads to corruption

    spread it out among us

    now you’re talking

    except that I worl in the voluntary sector… ‘we’ have been asking for a level playing field, to deliver local services for a long time. now it looks like centralised power is going to win the day, by demanding that private / volunatry sector deliver public sector services (health, education, social services), on the cheap and without support

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    America have been building labs to manufacture bioweapons

    Donald Rumsfield wants a debate on the legitacmy of using ‘race specific’ bio weapons

    serious

    USA has been refusing to sign / adhere to pretty much every international nuclear non-prolific treaty / environmental treaty

    even the pentagon leaked a report stating that environmental change was the biggest security threat to the USA in the next 30 years, last year

    what makes you think any race is going to be here long?

    Well Ive heard about weather modification weapons? after the tsunami

    and then Rita and Katrina happened so . . .

    try googling for the rainforest alliance and see if you think its a phony enviromentalist Lobby I think its dodgy

    NEWAY ->

    they are gonna use the environment to landgrab and control resources.

    they already are – for example in indonesia, 30 000 were cleared from their homes for a UN protected park ting

    all protected land is being given to the UN

    For example – YellowStone in US

    Why do u think they would do that?

    Why the sudden surge in Change?

    They have supressed the envio freindly alternatives for years ??

    They are building bunkers m8 – !!!!ALARM!!!!!

    The biggest threat to us is the Nuclear war – its now on the horizon

    The CIA Controlling Globalist Wankers have too much power

    The whole bush thing is a scam – dont base any of your judgements on tings he says / does maybe (I know its hard)

    Locally Goverments

    National/Global Constittions

    and Democratic input on every political decision made

    e.g vote locally and your MP factors the results into making their decision

    Sorry Rantin and Tired like:bigsmile:

    Nuclear proliferation looks to be a big problem for the world in the near future. The technology behind it’s gotten a lot cheaper, easier to manage and produce…

    six of one and half a dozen of the other

    I do believe that to an extent the rich world is using the environment as a weapon.

    It is clearly letting certain areas be depopulated by disease (AIDS) by environmental damage (which also sparks off resource war) but perhaps more as a consequence of laissez-faire capitalist policies and greed than a deliberate desire to destroy these areas (if the infrastructure is trashed by earthquakes/floods etc, how are they supposed to get at the resources?)

    If there is any “hidden agenda” in the world (and I don’t even think it is hidden nowadays) it is that if/when war/AIDS etc depopulate Africa and the Middle East it can easily be recolonised and turned back into some richer countries Empire.

    What is worrying the Yanks though is that it could equally be Beijing rather than Washington which ends up running a lot of this empire.

    you do have to be very careful of US-led conspiracy theories though. I’ve read loads since I first went on the net in the early 90s…

    A lot of Yanks are only hostile to the UN because despite all its faults (such as enforcing global drugs prohibition and not being able to prevent Washington’s war) it gives poorer countries a voice at the global table and encourages people to share resources and reach common views.

    Many American “activist” types believe in ultra-conservative individualism and would rather risk their lives or fight with guns than share resources with someone whom they didn’t totally agree with, and this fuels a lot of the conspiracy theories that emanate from this particular part of the world.
    Its sad that society has to set up “global nanny state” organisations like the UN – but humans are mostly hairless chimpanzees who fight to be alpha male, are less likely to form stable groups like the orang-utan and to fight to keep the resources in their local area when they are limited.

    there are a number of studies which allege that chimps in a big jungle are far more co-operative than those in managed parks with limited space (even the right on ones with big enclosures) or conventional zoos

    The problem with “local immunity” is that unless mixed with progressive socialism is that is those with resources will use supply and demand to consolidate their power and replace a global élite with a local one – perhaps eliminating any opposition by force or denying them food/shelter so they die out.

    We already had local immunity in Britain (and for that matter Asia) in ancient times; people formed tribes, warlords became kings and everyone fought bloody wars at borders.

    Go and take a good look at a map of your favourite rave sites. A proper OS one – not the rubbish ones sold in petrol stations. Many of these sites are in areas where the borders between counties exist, where there is wood or water.

    These borders exist because tribes fought to the death to gain control of the resources around them.

    In more recent times (very recent times) people started talking more and fighting slightly less; by a combination of popular struggle and social development the elites very grudgingly gave away (with lots of strings attached) tiny parcels of land at border areas to become “public rights of way”

    If there is any “hidden agenda” in the world (and I don’t even think it is hidden nowadays)

    Lots of agendas are hidden

    You can be tricked

    but yes I agree with what you are saying

    A lot of Yanks are only hostile to the UN because despite all its faults (such as enforcing global drugs prohibition and not being able to prevent Washington’s war) it gives poorer countries a voice at the global table and encourages people to share resources and reach common views.

    Yes but not in important positons like the security council

    Its as staged as our own democracys man

    Not share resources but bring them under the control of one organization

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