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  • 4 school kids, 1 teacher and 2 gun wielding maniacs shot dead in 3 schools in the USA in the last week

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5400570.stm

    what is going on?

    any US members fill us in?


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      Madness?? :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:yakk::yakk::yakk::yakk: Or Just a couple of Psychos perhaps?

      this happens in the USA fairly regularly and is the unfortunate consequence of a “society” built on rugged individualism and people being allowed to develop what appears to be an obsession with using extreme force such as guns/bombs to control others, and a country whose social structures (as opposed to their economic structurees) aren’t completely developed yet.
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      Interesting how its so much more common in the USA yet many other countries in the world permit private firearm ownership….. and I’m not against people having guns or being interested in them, provided the people have peace of mind and the moral fibre not to use a gun in anger against a person unless actually threatened with similar deadly force.

      I think its the Westernised, individualistic form of suicide terrorism; yet no one seems prepared to admit it happens in “modern” countries..


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        The suicide note
        Killer’s Suicide Note

        Updated: 20:16, Tuesday October 03, 2006

        This is the text of a suicide note written by Charles Carl Roberts IV to his wife Marie before he killed five children at an Amish school in Pennsylvania:

        “I don’t know how you put up with me all those years.
        I am not worthy of you, you are the perfect wife you deserve so much better.
        We had so many good memories together as well as the tragedy with Elise.
        It changed my life forever. I haven’t been the same since it affected me in a way I never felt possible.
        I am filled with so much hate, hate toward myself hate towards God and unimaginable emptyness it seems like everytime we do something fun I think about how Elise wasn’t here to share it with us and I go right back to anger.”

        http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1235923,00.html


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          General Lighting wrote:
          this happens in the USA fairly regularly..

          This is just some of them

          Timeline: US school shootings

          The BBC News website charts the history of gun violence in US schools.
          October 2006: A 32-year-old gunman shoots dead at least three girls at an Amish school in Pennsylvania, before killing himself
          September 2006: Gunman in Colorado shoots and fatally wounds a teenage schoolgirl, then kills himself; two days later a teenager kills the headteacher of a school in Cazenovia, Wisconsin
          November 2005: Student in Tennessee shoots dead an assistant principal and wounds two other administrators
          March 2005: Minnesota schoolboy kills nine, then shoots himself
          May 2004: Four people injured in shooting at a school in Maryland
          _40951519_columbine_ap203b.jpg The Columbine school killings led to calls for tighter gun controls

          April 2003: Teenager shoots dead head-teacher at a Pennsylvania school, then kills himself
          March 2001: Pupil opens fire at a school in California, killing two students
          February 2000: Six-year-old girl shot dead by classmate in Michigan
          November 1999: Thirteen-year-old girl shot dead by a classmate in New Mexico
          May 1999: Student injures six pupils in shoot-out in Georgia
          April 1999: Two teenagers shoot dead 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine School in Colorado
          June 1998: Two adults hurt in shooting by teenage student at high school in Virginia
          May 1998: Fifteen-year-old boy shoots himself in the head after taking a girl hostage
          May 1998: Fifteen-year-old shoots dead two students in school cafeteria in Oregon
          April 1998: Fourteen-year-old shoots dead a teacher and wounds two students in Pennsylvania
          March 1998: Two boys, 11 and 13, kill four girls and a teacher in Arkansas December 1997: Fourteen-year-old boy kills three students in Kentucky October 1997: Sixteen-year-old boy stabs mother, then shoots dead two students at school in Mississippi, injuring several others

          General Lighting wrote:
          this happens in the USA fairly regularly and is the unfortunate consequence of a “society” built on rugged individualism and people being allowed to develop what appears to be an obsession with using extreme force such as guns/bombs to control others, and a country whose social structures (as opposed to their economic structurees) aren’t completely developed yet.
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          Interesting how its so much more common in the USA yet many other countries in the world permit private firearm ownership….. and I’m not against people having guns or being interested in them, provided the people have peace of mind and the moral fibre not to use a gun in anger against a person unless actually threatened with similar deadly force.

          I think its the Westernised, individualistic form of suicide terrorism; yet no one seems prepared to admit it happens in “modern” countries..

          I reckon the guy in “Bowling for Columbine” had a point about the US being more and more driven by fear, and that being the reason for the number of shootings (esp since Canada actually have more guns/head population, and a lower homicide rate than we do)…:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

          Mass media driving everyone into hysterics again IMO… ‘Cos good news isn’t news, is it???:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

          And admitting the west has it’s own forms of terrorism ain’t on the agenda at the moment. Kind of difficult for George and Tony to wage war on the heartland after all :hopeless::hopeless: – gotta be able to maintain the us/them illusion, or it stops being something that we can pretend can be kicked into submission, and becomes something that actually requires thought and understanding to solve…. Gooks in the wire can be nuked while being able to pretend at morality – albeit with any real humans among us calling you an evil f**k – but gooks in Oklahoma, or Alabama or somewhere….different story…more difficult to get away with nuking Oklahoma, and we’ve had all the oil out of there anyway…:good_evil:good_evil:good_evil:evil: 👿 👿 :toxic: :toxic: :toxic:

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