Party Vibe

does he know which production company or broadcaster is making it? I worked in the TV industry for a few years and still keep an eye on the industry so I could check out whether its a real project or just someone pitching an idea to the broadcasters..

covertly filming raves has been done before – for instance for a documentary on crack for BBC3, they took one of those really small DV cams (the ones around the size of a walkman) into a London rave, hid it in a jacket and covertly filmed all the crack smokers.

its sounds though like its unlikely to TX on anything other than one of the cheap “reality” channels like Sky or the Flextech channels (bravo etc)

plus there are rules about covert filming and even ravers could/should be protected by human rights laws and Ofcoms rules.

its been discussed a few times before on here and SJ but TBH it would only be positive to people like us.. the free party scene has been reported on many times before by both friendly and hostile journalists and its not made much difference other than increasing the amount of anger against us and Police clampdowns.

Its true there is a lot of positive creativity on the rave scene – but too many of my generation from the original rave scene have fucked their lives (and others lives) up because they binged on drugs and society is still paying the price for this…

There’s a big hidden problem with broken families and domestic violence on comedowns for instance – often when one half of a couple gets tired of the others level of drug use (especially when kids arrive and one partner is seen to be lunching them out) – this unfortunately happens amongst a lot of “raver couples”

There are already music channels for the garage scene and commercial dance but a lot of them emphasise the negative aspects like the gang culture, and commercial dance channels like Rapture find it difficult keeping on air as no one wants to advertise on them and there is less money in dance music due to the decline in clubbing.

Plus as mentioned in another thread commercial media doesn’t want positive stuff any more. they want to expose the stuff like drugs, violence, abuse and set people against one another.

Another example is that there are plenty of documentaries and TV channels for minorities but theres still loads of hostility towards multiculturalism and immigration.

ravers are a minority, and a noisy and despised one which isn’t seen to be contributing much to society.

Even despite terrorism scares Asians for instance are often viewed as successful in business and there are many British Asians with positions of power because of their wealth. They are still despised by many but the haters can’t do fuck all to them because of the power they have gained through the market – but ravers – even commercial event promoters – don’t have this power (they nearly had it in the 90s with superclubs but then the anti-drugs nannies took it from them).

Also even “normal people” have got very cynical about spin and media manipulation so often their views become more stubborn and entrenched when they see a programme showing something they don’t like..

the other issue is filming a rave in progress is potentially filming various crimes in progress (whether we personally agree with the laws or not) – there are a lot of people in a place they are not supposed to be, taking substances they are not supposed to take.

All the feds need to do is start seizing the original footage which they can legally do under various laws.

ISTR this actualy happening way back in the mid-late 90s when the superclub culture was coming in – some “yoof TV” producers were filming clubs and raves and the cops got court orders on the lot of them to make them hand over footage

If they lean on freelancers and start confiscating the broadcast quality cameras they depend on for their livelihoods, (or worse, even start seizing computers used as edit suites) most of them will quickly cave in to the demands of the law enforcement agencies simply to keep in work… journalists cover their own arses and can’t be expected to protect yours when you break the law…

Hasn’t Natty-Raver already done this for much of the Eastern area?

TBH given by what is on youtube already I think there must be loads of East Anglia parties on video…

I expect the people doing it do at least have enough brain not to upload anything too incriminating so they must have better footage –

It can be fun and I’ve done it in the past but even then its still risky, especially after someone filmed the fight with suffolk cops and uploaded it to youtube (youtube handed over their details and their house got raided!)

cops now know if they ever search ravers’ houses to look for photo and video kit or even search through DVD/video tape collections (they can always seize it on suspicions that “it might contain evidence of criminal activity”)

In some areas its also getting difficult for people to take videos or even photos at raves because others get paranoid (and there are sometimes pikeys trying to nick any camera equipment) – in my old manor before I became fairly well known at raves people sometimes thought I was gathering evidence for cops when I took photos or videos (despite the crew members being good friends of mine).

That said if its done amongst a group of friends and with people being sensible/considerate about who they include in videos, whom they share them with and how they edit them then it shouldn’t case too many problems.

PS : It might be a good idea for the crews round here to stop uploading stuff to youtube for every anti-rave hater to see as well as the ravers!

Also, the compression quality of youtube makes the original footage (which can be as good as your normal telly) look like absolute shite, plus 30 seconds of the same tunes and moshers round a stack with distorted sound don’t exactly do the rave justice…

Learn how to use a video edit program (even Windows Media Maker isn’t that bad and Ulead do some alright cheap edit programmes) and make a DVD, this can be distrbuted by hand amongst your close friends..

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