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  • Can anyone tell me if it’s as simple to install a graphic card into a laptop as it is into a desktop? I’m looking to get one for my boy, but all the cheaper ones shortchange you with substandard graphics. Any info much appreciated, thanks

    i hear its pretty hard, and definantly not easy to do, if ur into computers then its probably pretty easy, but dont expect the desktp way 😉

    feedyourheadspace wrote:
    Can anyone tell me if it’s as simple to install a graphic card into a laptop as it is into a desktop? I’m looking to get one for my boy, but all the cheaper ones shortchange you with substandard graphics. Any info much appreciated, thanks

    I did have a quick look around using Google for you and it seems the general answer is no.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061212004439AAMFpfx

    I did read that you can change them on some laptops but it involved soldering and only certain laptops. I think it would be safer to take the answer as a no unless someone else actually knows different.

    As SL said, it is difficult if not impossible.

    the core market for laptops is use by mobile professionals who mostly use them for business and often want longer battery life or smaller size over top-end graphics capabilities.

    A top-end graphics card is a computer in its own right and requires more power and gets hotter, this is an issue when you are designing a portable machine.

    That said most laptops these days handle video and fairly advanced 3d graphics (such as Google Earth) very well nowadays.

    what does your son want the laptop for? I have seen some advertising certain “built in” graphics cards which are good for games/3D. if he just wants graphics for games maybe Biotech or someone else who spends loads of time playing games might be able to suggest more..

    when “I were a lad” 256×192 graphics with 8/16 colours was top end.. :laugh_at:

    If it’s for games, you can expect to spend some serious money for the ability to play the latest ones (look for something with a mobile 7600 or 7950 geforce chipset) – probably somewhere in the region of £1000+.

    Swapping out is as GL says difficult if not impossible (I have been building computers for over 10 years, and while I would think nothing of changing a laptop processor, adding memory or changing it’s hard disk, I wouldn’t want to try doing the graphics :hiding: ). That said, I believe there are new models being released since the advent of PCI express that are designed to have their graphics upgraded (if this is the case, it will be a fairly major selling point, so should be made obvious in any literature).

    Again, as GL says – if it’s not for the latest games or high end graphics apps (things like 3d rendering etc, not photoshop), then most laptops available today can cope with it fairly well…

    Thanks for response. I’ve not had much chance to look inside laptops before. I just worry when it says ‘Integrated Graphics’ or ‘onboard graphics’ and no speed. If it says ‘suporting 128mb’-would that be ok for most strategy type games? He also likes making and editing his own videos and stuff.
    I’m looking at the cheaper end of laptops £300-£350. but want something that would last the distance. It’s a shame it’s difficult to upgrade them by yourself. It’s bloody amazing that for £300 today you can get something 5 times better than three years ago which cost £1000

    feedyourheadspace wrote:
    Thanks for response. I’ve not had much chance to look inside laptops before. I just worry when it says ‘Integrated Graphics’ or ‘onboard graphics’ and no speed. If it says ‘suporting 128mb’-would that be ok for most strategy type games? He also likes making and editing his own videos and stuff.
    I’m looking at the cheaper end of laptops £300-£350. but want something that would last the distance. It’s a shame it’s difficult to upgrade them by yourself. It’s bloody amazing that for £300 today you can get something 5 times better than three years ago which cost £1000

    Depends on the game – a lot of the newer strategy games, like C & C, and Total annihilation need fairly beefy graphics processors, as they’ve gone to town on the unit animations etc. More importantly for the newer games, the AI and physics mean both CPU and system memory need to be decent spec. Older strategy games should run fine on pretty much any modern machine.

    As for video editing, that can be done on almost any computer too, it just depends on how long you’re prepared to wait for it to finish stuff. It also depends on CPU and system memory, so you should probably look for the best spec you can on those and not worry too much over the graphics chipset (you’re looking at about £500-£600 before you can get one with any really appreciable upgrade from onboard graphics, as a lot of the lower priced specialist chipsets are hobbled versions of their desktop cousins, and not really worth the money).

    It might be obvious but a fair few laptops tend to to share the RAM memory from the main board rather than have their own dedicated RAM so a machine with 1GB RAM could actually have a portion of that dedicated to graphics giving you less that’s useable for other tasks.

    I got a good deal on a dell laptop. Really good spec for £359. Had to fiddle around with updating everything on it but now runs really well. Only downside is its got Vista on it which seems very power and memory hungry. May just install XP instead.

    Probably a good idea – certainly worth a shot :groucho:

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