Space Master wrote:
I feel l should say something here. I know you’re probably “white European”, but nevertheless l think what you’ve said is a racist remark.
It is totally incorrect.
I won’t go into it, except to say can you please do some research that goes beyond the last 70 years, because the last 70 years = the history of Nazism.
You’re in effect saying the Nazi history is the only history there is.
The Celts, the Saxons, the Slavs, the Finns, all have been traditionally sedentery and peaceable, more so than other European tribes l gather, and they have a history going back hundreds / thousands of years.
And then you go on to give the same rhetoric BNP use – “white men shouldn’t all feel guilty … ” that’s how it starts hun.
Hitler wasn’t everything ya know.
Funny but the nazis hadn’t entered my head.
Either you’ve misinterpreted what i’ve said (easy enough in this medium), you havent read my post properly or we disagree on this matter, maybe I should have made myself clearer, these are some of the reason’s that i believe are behind the ‘white-man-is-guilty’ syndrome
(i have to say here and now I think if you’re not perpretrating, supporting, or condoning subjugation its not logical to feel guilty simply because you were born the same colour, or in the same geographical area as some other mad bastard who did terrible things before you were even born, but tbh I have never yet come to a satisfactory conclusion regarding all aspects of this. I do, however, strongly believe we all have a responsibility to educate ourselves and act as decent human beings)
Historically (regarding the role of the male european) i was thinking more along the lines of the British and Roman Empires’ and the roman catholic church, not particularly peaceful or respective of other people’s cultures’, religions’, boundaries or beliefs. Some might say they were, and still can be, a little arrogant and patronising, believing in their overwhelming superiority. Even the lauded Greek democracy wasn’t, unless you were a male, over a certain age, a full citizen etc etc
I was thinking about all sorts of things . . .
from the fact that my sir name distinguishes me as property of either father or husband (an old, largely invalid argument now but still has its point regarding the prevelence of patriarchy) and the difficulties women in the UK had to overcome in getting the vote (not so long ago) . . .
to the ‘discovery’ and dismemberment of the ‘new’ worlds: the americas, australia, india, the opium wars in china, not to mention the slave trade and the fortunes amassed from cotton, silk, lumber, tea etc by illegal, immoral and unethical means.
Now I grant you that both the Queen Elizabeths and Thatcher were female but I beg you to disprove me when I say that europeans have lived in a patriarchal society for a fair bit now.
I know there’s a whole world of history out there where the ‘bad’ guys arn’t european but I still think that they did treat this world as their playground for a while (an i’m not even starting on UK, America, Russia and the middle east, china etc)
And as for white men not feeling guilty? (should they/shouldn’t they? a huge argument) Even if you don’t believe you should feel guilty that’s no reason to join the BNP. Guilt generates fear and fear generates anger. An honest sense of self-responsibility in life is essential to be a decent human being. Its what you do that counts . . .
join the BNP = not good
live a decent, honest, respectful life = good
This was hellish hard to write, still not sure it makes complete sense but I still stand by my original post where i basically said that in my opinion . . .
There is this very difficult guilt-by-association subject and different people deal with it in different ways, some join the BNP and some become sound human beings.
