Party Vibe

I think the big problem is most “normal” people see fascism as led by almost cartoon-like “Hitler”/”BNP” type characters and think “nah, it can’t happen here”.

That said, Hitler was democratically voted in by a free and fair election in a modern European nation that had a large amount of freedom of speech and expression for its times, after an effective campaign of publicity/spin and direct protest action :hopeless:

There are countries such as Singapore and Malaysia which have extremely authoritarian governments but still manage to be considered a “democracy”.

As ex British colonies they have similar social structures to Great Britain even today – in fact they are a very popular place for high net worth, elderly white British people to emigrate too as they think “these Oriental guys have done a better job of the Empire and keeping people under control than we did”. Unfortunately though life in these countries is actually very good for those who conform (their disciplined approach to life attracts inward investment) so most people do not protest about the lack of “freedom” or when they do they are easily discouraged.

Todays Middle Englanders are not all white, Christian or from the South. Remember the hall parties video? One of the guys on the hall committee complaining about the raves was British Asian. Today you can often older people of all races and backgrounds complaining “more must be done” for stuff like law and order, and often taking the time to vote for more social control. if a progressive solution is suggested to any social problems the anger and bile from them is astounding and many will express that anger at the ballot box (think about why some areas are solid Tory strongholds..)

One big risk in the short to medium terms is a descent from the centre right to a more authoritarian style of government but whilst preserving the routes of immigration and free trade/free market, to keep most consumers happy.

Another risk to freedom is when the conservative religious types unite and share a common platform. On a number of occasions hardcore Muslims and Christians have put aside their differences to support clampdowns on abortion rights/womens rights and to clamour for more control over recreational drug use.

again its as much the fault of “the people” (i.e Middle England)

when Labour had proper socialist policies no one would elect them so they shifted to centre right

its not just confined to Britain though, look at Denmark where the people are electing govts that are supporting destruction of alternative communities like Ungdomshuset and Christiana

and France where Sarko got elected

this is the sad thing, we don’t actually yet live in a dictatorship but its possible for a democratic nation to elect one :hopeless:

Oh, and a Tory government would be an absolute fucking nightmare for youth culture etc

the current lot aren’t much older than myself. They were all the posh boys what dabbled with 1980s rave culture as a “libertarian experiment” and then ran away like chastised kids when thatcho clamped down (not after grassing up the working class crews whom they had set up drug dealing networks with)

some people went down for years (the East London/Essex working class lads), others became commercial club promoters (the “Tory boy” types).