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March 23, 2008 at 12:50 pm

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noname

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If you’ve seen the news recently, you are likely aware of the current situation in Tibet, and the Chinese governments (predictably) extreme reaction to it. If you would like to do something about it, please read the info below, follow the links and sign the petition supporting the Dalai Lama’s call for dialogue and human rights in Tibet…..

Dear friends,

After decades of suffering, the Tibetan people have burst onto the streets in protests and riots. The spotlight of the upcoming Olympic Games is now on China, and Tibetan Nobel peace prize winner the Dalai Lama is calling to end all violence through restraint and dialogue–he urgently needs the support of the world’s people.

China’s leaders are lashing out publicly at the Dalai Lama–but we’re told many Chinese officials believe dialogue is the best hope for stability in Tibet. China’s leadership is right now considering a crucial choice between crackdown and dialogue that could determine Tibet’s–and China’s–future.

We can affect this historic choice–China does care about its international reputation, and we can help them choose the right path. China’s President Hu Jintao needs to hear that the ‘Made in China’ brand and the upcoming Olympics in Beijing will succeed only if he makes the right choice. But it will take an avalanche of global people power to get his attention. Click below now to join 250,000 others and sign the petition–and tell absolutely everyone you can right away–our goal is 1 million voices united for Tibet:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/21.php

China’s economy is dependent on “Made in China” exports that we all buy, and the government is keen to make the Olympics in Beijing this summer a celebration of a new and respected China. China is also a sprawling, diverse country with much brutality in its past, so it has good reasons to be concerned about stability — some of Tibet’s rioters killed innocent people. But President Hu must recognize that the greatest danger to Chinese stability and development today comes from hardliners who advocate escalating repression, not from those Tibetans seeking dialogue and reform.

We will deliver our petition directly to Chinese officials in New York, London and Beijing, but it must be a massive number first. Please forward this email to your address book with a note explaining to your friends why this is important, or use our tell-a-friend tool to email your address book–it will come up after you sign.

The Tibetan people have suffered quietly for decades. It is finally their moment to speak–we must help them be heard.

With hope and respect,

Ricken, Iain, Graziela, Paul, Galit, Pascal, Milena, Ben and the whole Avaaz team

Here are some links with more information on the Tibetan protests and the Chinese response:

Crackdown in Tibet, but protests spreading:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/tibet.china
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/crackdown-on-protests-widens/2008/03/17/1205602289349.html

Dalai Lama calling for dialogue and restraint, and an end to violence:
http://www.dalailama.com/news.216.htm
http://www.agi.it/world/news/200803191258-pol-ren0032-art.html

Leaders across Europe and Asia starting to back dialogue as the way forward:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7300157.stm

Chinese Prime Minister attacks “Dalai clique”, leaves door open for talks:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/18/content_7813194.htm

Other Chinese signals:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/China_looks_at_India_to_talk_to_Dalai_Lama/articleshow/2875142.cms

ABOUT AVAAZ
Avaaz.org is an independent, not-for-profit global campaigning organization that works to ensure that the views and values of the world’s people inform global decision-making. (Avaaz means “voice” in many languages.) Avaaz receives no money from governments or corporations, and is staffed by a global team based in London, Rio de Janeiro, New York, Paris, Washington DC, and Geneva.

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March 23, 2008 at 1:33 pm

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e_babes

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its a shame because every year we could have gone and had a week long party and smoked and worshiped cannabis like they do. I forget the festivals name but it WAS well worth the trip.

Now its just too dangerous for anyone foreign.

😥
March 25, 2008 at 1:18 am

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DaftFader

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i signed the partition :group_hug
March 25, 2008 at 1:23 am

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MisterDuck

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signed

i wanna get some free tibet stickers

and some free palestine stickers

anyone know where i can get em?
March 25, 2008 at 1:25 am

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Joker78

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Sad to say, but there is no prospect of change for Tibet. China will never give it up and there is nobody willing to challenge the Chinese.
March 25, 2008 at 1:27 am

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MisterDuck

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JulesDogg wrote:

Sad to say, but there is no prospect of change for Tibet. China will never give it up and there is nobody willing to challenge the Chinese.

i’d love to sneak into a country and do some v for vendetta stylee stuff

unfortunately i think it’d be nigh impossible, it must be relatively easy to completly lock a place down
March 25, 2008 at 1:33 am

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Joker78

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boothy wrote:

signed

i wanna get some free tibet stickers

and some free palestine stickers

anyone know where i can get em?

Here…

http://peaceproject.com/stickers/genstickers.htm
March 25, 2008 at 12:58 pm

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General Lighting

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JulesDogg wrote:

Sad to say, but there is no prospect of change for Tibet. China will never give it up and there is nobody willing to challenge the Chinese.

I wouldn’t go so far as to say there is no prospect for change but it will be on Chinese terms.

The harsh facts are that China is now a superpower, has military strength and control over this area, and could turn any counter argument from a Western nations right back on itself by pointing out what is going on there is no different from how many Western nations got their Empire.

After all consider the man currently “in charge” of Great Britain..

His ancestors are from a tribe in a neighbouring country that was annexed by military force, kept under control for hundreds of years and only in very recent times granted a tiny amount of autonomy..

I don’t think they want too much bloodshed compared to something like the 1989 protests, but it still won’t stop the Chinese using the same tactics as any other nation to deal with dissent. I think the authorities of everywhere else in the world has used police or soldiers to clear an area at least once including the use of live rounds.

The best the petitions can do is to encourage dialogue and maybe the Chinese to quietly let go whoever they have nicked, but it will still be a “solution” on Chinese terms.

After all here in “liberal” Britain paramiltary police are used to clear groups of youths out of public owned forests just because they are making noise, in “democratic” Denmark there are riots over the Ungdomshuset.. who are our nations govts to tell the Chinese what to do? (particularly if it would make it difficult to justify what goes on “at home”)

If the Dalai Lama came to Kings Lynn and encouraged youths who had been displaced from the area to squat “other peoples” farms and create autonomous communities he’d get what for from Norfolk Constabulary, and although he probably wouldn’t get roughed up he’d end up in the OAP wing at Norwich and be deported as a “foreign terrorist”.
March 30, 2008 at 10:40 pm

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JonnyQuest

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tibet is better off with china
March 31, 2008 at 12:14 pm

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process

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JonnyQuest wrote:

tibet is better off with china

how exactly?

not being arsey just wondering why you think that.
March 31, 2008 at 12:27 pm

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lilmstrixta

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i signed the petition i think this is terrible. i think there is a program on channel 2 about it aLL this week.
March 31, 2008 at 1:32 pm

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voodoovanity

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China is an atheist country and wants to have control over who succeedes the Dalai Lama even though the current Lama chooses it through reincarnation. How can you have a atheist regime making a spiritual decision. pretty weird.
March 31, 2008 at 1:48 pm

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General Lighting

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TBH I think theres a far more simple reason for this

There is loads of zinc and copper ore under Tibet (and various other minerals)

Also its a border point where the Chinese can keep an eye on the Indians (and point missiles at them)
March 31, 2008 at 1:49 pm

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lilmstrixta

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but surely someone should step in and tell them its wrong, but hey i guess because there is no oil there usa won’t bother sticking its big nose in
March 31, 2008 at 1:52 pm

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General Lighting

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lilmstrixta wrote:

but surely someone should step in and tell them its wrong, but hey i guess because there is no oil there usa won’t bother sticking its big nose in

the Yanks can’t take the moral high ground as the Chinese are only doing the same as what is going on in Iraq/Afghanistan – I didn’t know about the mineral deposits until recently and apparently they were very new (discovered 2007)

I think the world/UN really needs to keep an eye on this area and try for peace as it could kick off big time

The Indians and Chinese have never been best of friends, and if the Islamic nations were to step in you could have another theatre of conflict for world war III…
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