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  • From the Guardian today

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    Singer Pete Doherty has been blocked from performing at a music festival amid fears his band would “gee up” the crowd into a dangerous frenzy.

    The decision came after police asked an intelligence officer to research Doherty’s band, Babyshambles, who were booked to headline Moonfest festival in Westbury, Wiltshire, next week. They concluded that the band’s tendency to “speed up and then slow down the music” could create a “whirlpool effect” and spark disorder.

    Lawyers acting on behalf of Wiltshire police convinced magistrates to provide a closure order for the festival on the night the band were scheduled to perform.

    John Green, Moonfest’s organiser, said he was “livid” at the decision and accused police of waging a vendetta against Doherty, who lives locally.

    But Superintendent Paul Williams said the ban was designed to preserve public safety. “Experts are telling us that the profile of fans that follow Pete Doherty and Babyshambles is volatile and they can easily be whipped up into a frenzy, whereas the profile of someone that would follow around Cliff Richard or Bucks Fizz, for example, is completely different.”

    Williams said “other organisation changes” at the festival meant security provisions were no longer adequate.

    Police were alerted to the potential perils of a Doherty performance, Williams said, after learning about his solo performance at the Royal Albert Hall last month. Some fans mounted the stage and police were called, but no arrests were made.

    Chief Superintendent Julian Kirby, the divisional commander, told Wiltshire’s Gazette and Herald: “We carried out an analysis of what Pete Doherty and his band does. What he does as part of his routine is to gee up the crowd.

    “They speed up and then slow down the music and create a whirlpool effect in the crowd. They [the crowd] all get geed up and then they start fighting.”

    Those present at north Wiltshire magistrates on Monday on behalf of police included a barrister, an acting chief inspector and an “industry expert”. It took the court a day to reach its decision to support the force’s application, which Green contested. It is believed to be the first court to issue section 160 of the Licensing Act (2003) to stop an act performing.

    Green said the revocation had cut the festival a day short. He said Doherty was “absolutely devastated and furious”. He added: “He’s very kindly offered a free gig for everyone who has bought a ticket and won’t be able to see him.”

    Green said police had offered him a deal during a pause in court proceedings to allow the night to go ahead if he agreed to spend more on security and removed Doherty from the lineup but he refused the “offer”. “They told me privately they hate the fact he lives in Wiltshire and they don’t want him on their patch,” he said.

    Williams denied his force had offered a deal or had anything against the singer. He had never heard Doherty’s music, he said. “Public safety is our primary concern.”

    This country and its stupid laws is making want to go and jump off a cliff! :hopeless:

    the entire festival has now been cancelled.

    but cops have been doing this to dance music events for 15 or more years – one reason there were so many illegals in East Anglia was because cops made legal events nearly impossible to put on without all sorts of conditions.

    and it is a routine occurence in many other nations across the world including some supposedly “modern” European ones and many states of the USA

    Although I disagree with the cops’ actions, in some ways its a good warning to all the emo type kids to show them that they aren’t safe from the returning trend towards “moral policing”.

    But what the hell are they talking about a whirlpool effect? How can the judge close down an event based on total gibberish? i mean i know they can pretty much do what they want, but this is a joke. How much would the court costs have been to work out that this music may cause people to fight (nothing to do with the alc!)… :you_crazy:

    djprocess;232056 wrote:
    But what the hell are they talking about a whirlpool effect? How can the judge close down an event based on total gibberish? i mean i know they can pretty much do what they want, but this is a joke. How much would the court costs have been to work out that this music may cause people to fight (nothing to do with the alc!)… :you_crazy:

    I suspect it would have been watching the footage of the stage invasion of the previous concert. That in itself would be enough to flag a “health and safety risk”.

    The rest of the cops/judges talk is just spin as they are trying not to look totally “out of touch with the youth” or sound more politically correct than the moral panics of 20-30 years ago – and Britain still trys to put across this image of being “liberal” in order to improve its image in foreign nations.

    Authorities in many other nations countries would simply have said that they are refusing to let this guy perform because he puts across a “bad public image”

    it was way worse for mid 90s rave promoters under the last government, the cops would let them spend all their money on promotions and logistics and then the beak would refuse the license at the last moment because of “worries over public safety”.

    There was then no further dialogue or discussion available, and some promoters were even bankrupted this way (the cops used to do this to any crews they suspected of having links with drug dealing)

    surely the babyshambles would be too bagged up to cause any trouble

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