the cops been doing all of this for 30 years at least and aren’t stupid, they can work out who the walts (liars) are
also there are plenty of smackheads what would join a protest group and give away secrets for a 10 bag, in the 90s loads of party drug dealers used to get dobbed in by them
the problem with protest groups is they are often too right on and non-judgemental and can get infiltrated by scum way worse than even coppers, saw this happen around the NEwbury protests time..
binge;322324 wrote:
Yes. But you also have to remember that the ‘beat a hippy’ attitude was very prevelent through most of the coppers at the G20. It’s funny because it’s the same tactics they’ve been using for decades- we’ve all seen it at parties (especially if you’ve ben in Norfolk for the past few years!).
yeah and this is what fucking annoys me – none of them yoghurt weaver grauniad journos and middle class london “activist” types (many of whom have no real connections or empathy with the working class population of the capital that I originally come from) have ever stood up for activists outside Londonistan. they were all happy (along with some forum trolls) to talk up the “megarave” in 2006 but when it resulted in some of the most serious violence to occur in the East of England for years and injuries on both sides, it barely got two or three news articles , little condemnation of the Police and extensive reporting on the lads getting prison sentences.
neither is there much reporting if/when the cops [or even soldiers from a foreign military taking matters into their own hands!] get heavy at protests around Lakenheath or Mildenhall – or when TVP get heavy with the peace women at Aldermaston or Burghfield, which they still do now and then.
I bet the journos and “chattering classes” of Islington etc wouldn’t even criticise if metpol went in heavy on the next squat party – although TBH the angry gangs do a far better job of fucking up these things..
OK some hippies might argue raves were losing their eco-awareness and are just hedonism but by not criticising cop tactics they are in effect supporting the tactics..
Also a good friend of mine from this way told me how in Colchester in 1990 when the poll tax riot happened there were supposed ot be activists from London backing up the locals when essex cops started getting rowdy but they all bottled it – that is why he doesn’t go climate change marches / actions in London – I don’t blame him, why forgive and forget betrayal like that? (he is however getting active in doing positive alternative things in this region)
