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  • Just found this documentory (quite short) on you tube described as;

    ‘Breaking News’ is a short film, describing the effects and method of police ‘media managing’ of the news. To minimise the effect people can have by action or protest.

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    P1 Breaking News Part 1

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    P2 Breaking News Part 2

    It really is quite scary just how much the police seem to be abusing their powers. The UK is becoming a more scary place to live the older I get it really is. The films really good and very intelligently put together, if you could get something like this on mainstream media I find it hard to imagine that there would not be a massive backlash against the methods used here by the police.

    photographthesun;324216 wrote:
    It really is quite scary just how much the poliece seem to be abusing their powers.

    they’ve been doing some of this for 30-40 years now, but the media manipulation is a consequence of the “free market” approach to broadcasting.

    Its a piece of piss for the feds to spin the news as most TV companies have such low budgets for regional news and depend on freelancers, if a freelance camera op becomes friendly with the cops he/she can be “embedded” with them on raids etc and get loads of action footage albeit from police POV. But if they aren’t friendly to cops the cops can bust them and confiscate their expensive camera kit – usually this does get returned in good condition but stuff like tapes and memory chips “goes missing” until the deadline for the story is missed, so the reporter loses out on both the truth getting out and their fee.

    Also the evidence gathering teams and CCTV ops will leak or openly release footage if the price is right and there are always ways round privacy rules.

    plus lots of the ITV news people what have been made redundant were very pro-police and have set up consultancy firms advising cops on how to get footage in hostile situations and also how to get PR for their operations…

    General Lighting;324217 wrote:
    they’ve been doing some of this for 30-40 years now, but the media manipulation is a consequence of the “free market” approach to broadcasting.

    Its a piece of piss for the feds to spin the news as most TV companies have such low budgets for regional news and depend on freelancers, if a freelance camera op becomes friendly with the cops he/she can be “embedded” with them on raids etc and get loads of action footage albeit from police POV. But if they aren’t friendly to cops the cops can bust them and confiscate their expensive camera kit – usually this does get returned in good condition but stuff like tapes and memory chips “goes missing” until the deadline for the story is missed, so the reporter loses out on both the truth getting out and their fee.

    Also the evidence gathering teams and CCTV ops will leak or openly release footage if the price is right and there are always ways round privacy rules.

    plus lots of the ITV news people what have been made redundant were very pro-police and have set up consultancy firms advising cops on how to get footage in hostile situations and also how to get PR for their operations…

    oh good, so its even more of an imoral fucked up mess than I realised.

    Its funny I grew up knowing nothing but respect for the poliece, always assumed they were good people just trying to help society. Im not sure what I think now, but its certainly not that. It really isnt a very pleasnt world.

    @photographthesun 324218 wrote:

    oh good, so its even more of an imoral fucked up mess than I realised.

    Its funny I grew up knowing nothing but respect for the poliece, always assumed they were good people just trying to help society. Im not sure what I think now, but its certainly not that. It really isnt a very pleasnt world.

    do yourself a favour –
    the days when you were growing up – its because you had no worries like that… you just enjoy life

    be a kid again, enjoy life, ignore this shit =)

    not just the cops – us “alternative types” what dare to buck the system are a small minority of the 60 million here, less so than even ethnic minorities.

    even cops are just pawns in the game. for instance in the 1990s three cops died of tumours caused by the first generations airwave radio comms sets as they had the power turned up too high initially. the only real reason airwave was brought in (at millions of pounds expense of taxpayers money) is so people like us couldn’t listen to OB on radio scanners.

    there are so many normal people what aren’t outwardly fascists etc but totally disagree with protest of any kind as its “not the British way”.

    I even once worked with this old boy what wouldn’t join a campaign for road safety for cyclists because he was a Tory voter and “he didn’t want to become a political activist”.

    He said he would rather give up riding his bicycle and that the Council and the free market should decide how the roads (which were dangerous for cyclists) should be laid out – and that cyclists were lower down the chain as they didn’t pay as much taxes.

    This isn’t even true as its your council tax and normal tax on wages and VAT what pays for roads, even if you don’t have a car.

    joshd96320;324219 wrote:
    do yourself a favour –
    the days when you were growing up – its because you had no worries like that… you just enjoy life

    be a kid again, enjoy life, ignore this shit =)

    I didnt have a very happy childhood so i’m afraid that doesnt work for me 😥

    I find it hard to egnore, and if others didnt egnore things like this then it wouldnt happen. I cant help but feel its this egnor the hard bits and just worry about your own life type attitude that causes so much suffereing.

    People shouldnt be afraid of their goverments, goverments should be afraid of their people.

    (sorry 4 the Cliché)

    joshd96320;324219 wrote:
    do yourself a favour –
    the days when you were growing up – its because you had no worries like that… you just enjoy life

    be a kid again, enjoy life, ignore this shit =)

    unfortunately unless you’ve got your family to bail you out you can’t just ignore it as those in power fight back hard – two mates of mine tried exactly this, got stitched up for a rave and done 4 months in jail… cat B as well, not “holiday bay”…

    actually when I was Josh’s age people were still getting stitched up by the feds, there was a far worse govt and we were at real risk of being blown up in nuclear war…

    General Lighting;324222 wrote:
    not just the cops – us “alternative types” what dare to buck the system are a small minority of the 60 million here, less so than even ethnic minorities.

    even cops are just pawns in the game. for instance in the 1990s three cops died of tumours caused by the first generations airwave radio comms sets as they had the power turned up too high initially. the only real reason airwave was brought in (at millions of pounds expense of taxpayers money) is so people like us couldn’t listen to OB on radio scanners.

    there are so many normal people what aren’t outwardly fascists etc but totally disagree with protest of any kind as its “not the British way”. I even once worked with this old boy what wouldn’t join a campaign for road safety for cyclists because he was a Tory voter “he didn’t want to become a political activist”. He said he would rather give up riding his bicycle and that the Council and the free market should decide how the roads (which were dangerous for cyclists) should be laid out and that cyclists were lower down the chain as they didn’t pay as much taxes (not true as its your council tax and normal tax on wages and VAT what pays for roads, even if you don’t have a car)

    God thinking protesting isnt British is so nieve its untrue. I agree about the poliece pawns part, they are certainly just used as tools themselves. ugh it all just makes me dispare. I’m not a protester or anything (well stop the war and a couple of the big ones), in fact I think perhaps such simplistic chanting does more to harm the cause then good ((I want a T-shirt that says “its a bit more complecated than that” (BS)) and can certainly be just as biast and ignorent as the problem in the first place.

    Ugh I can feel my mind falling into the warm bath of dispare and depression. bloody world.

    General Lighting;324226 wrote:
    actually when I was Josh’s age people were still getting stitched up by the feds, there was a far worse govt and we were at real risk of being blown up in nuclear war…

    ok that sounds rubbish. I’ll have to scrub off me rose tinting

    yep the protesters are often just as naive..

    what does make a difference is people taking individual action without drawing attention to themselves in a ostentatious manner – such as using your brain and a map to avoid dangerous roads, and just getting on your bike instead of driving or using the bus – growing your own plants (not just weed!), fixing and recycling things instead of always buying new stuff… but lots of even so-called “alternative” people don’t do this even if they talk about it…

    as for surveillance/cameras etc if the feds say people can’t point obvious cameras/phones at them (and they are backtracking on this now) people will just use cameras hidden in less obvious things.

    A major difference between now and 25 years ago is that a trip to any electronics component place such as Maplins will allow you to purchase everything the military industrial complex use for their surveillance, for very affordable prices.

    I also think the media (even the “leftie” media) talks up the paranoia. A few months ago I was waiting for my mates to pick me up from the train station, and I saw a odd train of ballasts(?) and railway stuff, so out of curiosity took a picture of it on my phone. I am British Asian, and there were loads of National Express staff watching, I half expected one to quiz me or even dob me into BTP. None of this happened.

    @photographthesun 324224 wrote:

    I didnt have a very happy childhood so i’m afraid that doesnt work for me 😥

    I find it hard to egnore, and if others didnt egnore things like this then it wouldnt happen. I cant help but feel its this egnor the hard bits and just worry about your own life type attitude that causes so much suffereing.

    People shouldnt be afraid of their goverments, goverments should be afraid of their people.

    (sorry 4 the Cliché)

    ahh :group_hug
    hm i suppose thats a good point… i didnt mean it like that…. i do care for others around me i guess i just dont wanna get caught up with police..

    though clichéy enough, i like that sentence 😀 it may have a spot in my MSN..

    @General Lighting 324225 wrote:

    unfortunately unless you’ve got your family to bail you out you can’t just ignore it as those in power fight back hard – two mates of mine tried exactly this, got stitched up for a rave and done 4 months in jail… cat B as well, not “holiday bay”…

    i aint meaning like defy every law.. im just saying… enjoy life without the unnecessary bother of getting caught up though the laws do get in the way of much enjoyment eh

    @General Lighting 324226 wrote:

    actually when I was Josh’s age people were still getting stitched up by the feds, there was a far worse govt and we were at real risk of being blown up in nuclear war…

    studying that one at gcse :p

    joshd96320;324219 wrote:
    do yourself a favour –
    the days when you were growing up – its because you had no worries like that… you just enjoy life

    be a kid again, enjoy life, ignore this shit =)

    ignore it? no thanks

    we walk into 1984 by ignoring.

    boothy;324539 wrote:
    ignore it? no thanks

    we walk into 1984 by ignoring.

    I just wish there was a genuine way to make the poliece responsible for their actions. But fundmentally how could the goverment allow the authority of the poliece to be undermined. Unless its something so big and powerful they cant stop the public outrage. Which I dont believe this is.

    Perhaps there will be a couple of scape goats at best.

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