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  • Hey everyone. I’ve been gone for a while cuz I’m desperately trying to earn money, not bc you ‘chased me away’ 😉 But to be honest, I have said all there is to say…. y’all know where I stand as far as God – debating till I’m blue in the face will not make one whit of difference – the only way to ‘prove’ anyting is for the Holy Spirit to move and convince you. NOTHING I say will do that. You can call it a copout or being weak or whatever, but it’s the truth. Debating whether or not God exists only flares up my anxiety – and that is DEFINITELY not God! I continue to pray for y’all, and hope that if you are ever in the straits I was in due to partying, you will call upon the Lord for His mercy and be saved – literally.

    If I happen to slip and say something ‘religious’ – just say – ok she’s the rebel who believes in God :weee:

    I WILL discuss (as opposed to argue/debate) however! But pls keep in mind I am also trying to work contest puzzles, do mystery shopping, surveys etc at the same time! :love:

    @amyberthelet 337624 wrote:

    Hey everyone. I’ve been gone for a while cuz I’m desperately trying to earn money, not bc you ‘chased me away’ 😉 But to be honest, I have said all there is to say…. y’all know where I stand as far as God – debating till I’m blue in the face will not make one whit of difference – the only way to ‘prove’ anyting is for the Holy Spirit to move and convince you. NOTHING I say will do that. You can call it a copout or being weak or whatever, but it’s the truth. Debating whether or not God exists only flares up my anxiety – and that is DEFINITELY not God! I continue to pray for y’all, and hope that if you are ever in the straits I was in due to partying, you will call upon the Lord for His mercy and be saved – literally.

    If I happen to slip and say something ‘religious’ – just say – ok she’s the rebel who believes in God :weee:

    I WILL discuss (as opposed to argue/debate) however! But pls keep in mind I am also trying to work contest puzzles, do mystery shopping, surveys etc at the same time! :love:

    disclaimer: i’m not arguing on the existence of god in this post, i’m stating that this form does not exist within the realms of my actualisation, realisation, and world.

    Certainly for me, NO amount of arguing / brainwashing / nuclear threats against me / whatever, ANYTHING will make me believe. Probably the same for you likewise but ill discuss and put points forward anyway..

    For one who doesn’t believe in this ideology / theory, it serves just to piss off, wind up, irritate, or at lowest value just serve as nothing to us, just please, don’t pray for an atheist because what are you praying, for us, this guy doesn’t exist, ‘denying the existence of a divine being’ or ‘an absence of belief in a divine superior’ whichever way you put it, it ain’t there, and in my opinion we kinda don’t want you praying for us.. its like a capitalism praying for communism.

    “the Lord for His mercy and be saved – literally.”

    it kinda hurts to put that in a post published by me. Not literally, in my mind, and in my being (i dont believe in souls, i dont believe in spirit to a certain extent, i believe that its all part of emotion, and emotion is a evolutionary advantage ask me for more if your intrigued which i doubt you are ).. the lord, well thats just like fuck it ill just ask a blank piece of paper,, doesn’t exist in an atheists world. obviously im not talking for the whole forum im mainly talking for myself / like-minded ones (i wont say other atheists, because by definition, atheism is an absence of belief, not a belief in itself). And for this reason i find it 100% incorrect to state it is literal as to me this is fictional and therefore cannot fabricate within the world i have created..

    “If I happen to slip and say something ‘religious’ – just say – ok she’s the rebel who believes in God :weee: “

    Just a little personal note, i dont find belief in this divine thing rebel-esque, i feel iit is an appeal and a surrender to the bombardment media and control forces layed down by society and governments. by control forces, i mean something used to keep people in check towards a minorities views and preferences. i dont think we need the bible to tell us not to kill as through evolution we have learnt that together we stand and divided we fall – i for one dont need a religious text to state this to me.

    one more thing, are you an evangelist?

    now, i have come across as a cock in this post i am fairly sure, but its the easiest way to explain my views on religion. 🙂

    As to your last question… yes.

    And I don’t care what you may say, I AM gonna pray for you!

    My story is somewhere in here……not gonna rehash it all……

    As far as what I believe….just go here Deliverance Bible Church

    u just can’t help it can u amy

    god god god

    @p0lygon-Window 337632 wrote:

    u just can’t help it can u amy

    god god god

    Slightly off point Poly, do u know anything about the psy trance do in London this Sat?? I have seen this over at psymusic (Indeepen.dance: Organic Hybrid / Brainhunters / Dirty Saffi)

    nope – I am not ashamed!!! :love:

    don’t have a clue, but it sounds sick!

    i’ll be at o2 wireless this sat

    @amyberthelet 337631 wrote:

    As to your last question… yes.

    And I don’t care what you may say, I AM gonna pray for you!

    My story is somewhere in here……not gonna rehash it all……

    As far as what I believe….just go here Deliverance Bible Church

    why, just why.. it just pisses me off, i mean come on WHY! gimme a reason please because i dont actually want to be prayed for, i dont want to be within the confines of religion

    EVERYBODYS FREE! thats why i hate evangelism. it even goes so far as to divide a religion its self how stoopiddd

    @amyberthelet 337637 wrote:

    nope – I am not ashamed!!! :love:

    i can be for you if you wish

    you want a reason – u got it – because I am a CHRISTIAN!

    I used to say I was an atheist too – I was an Objectivist. I wanted proof. I got it. My proof would not make sense to you. But where I was at and for what I went through, it did to me and changed my life forever.

    Yes we are free – free to accept God’s mrcy or reject it. I cannot force God on you – nobody was able to do that to me. It took me literally coming to the end of myself – long story which is somewhere on here. I think it’s called My Story, can’t remember exactly where it is, maybe the drugs forum…..

    Anyway, I do not mind chatting at all if you ever want to look me up on Yahoo…… just click the icon.

    I worship Megan Fox.

    to be honest if i went through what Amy did i’d probaly cling on to religion aswell, good escape

    religious debates tire so quickly.

    PERSONAL FAITH BEATS ORGANISED RELIGION.
    imo.

    @amyberthelet 337649 wrote:

    you want a reason – u got it – because I am a CHRISTIAN!

    I used to say I was an atheist too – I was an Objectivist. I wanted proof. I got it. My proof would not make sense to you. But where I was at and for what I went through, it did to me and changed my life forever.

    Yes we are free – free to accept God’s mrcy or reject it. I cannot force God on you – nobody was able to do that to me. It took me literally coming to the end of myself – long story which is somewhere on here. I think it’s called My Story, can’t remember exactly where it is, maybe the drugs forum…..

    Anyway, I do not mind chatting at all if you ever want to look me up on Yahoo…… just click the icon.

    ive read your story before

    its an interesting read but i dont like the fact that you stated that you cant quit without god, as many have quit without this geeza.. i can see how this belief helped you but the points you make nobody being able to do a certain thing without good annoys me a bit. me and you are comparable in one way, we both arent going to accept any of each others point, this argument could spiral until we both die, you will never turn back atheist and i will never belief in a theory i find incredible – both sides are driven by powerful propaganda techniques and i guess ive been partially slave to the media i have chosen to follow but i am starting to see my own light, my own theories are fabricating, and im kind of reaching a sense of spirituality and a bit of a greater understanding. we can keep arguing but at the end of the day your gunna stay christian because thats where you went at rock bottom and so if you see it as a sea bed, thats where christianity is in you and its gunna take a fuckload of digging to dig that up. for me, atheism isnt on the sea bed or in the sea, its the damn core so nobody can get religion on me either.

    basically what im saying is this will keep going on and on,, 🙂

    @p0lygon-Window 337655 wrote:

    to be honest if i went through what Amy did i’d probaly cling on to religion aswell, good escape

    im not an escapist, ill find it within myself if its something that must be done, i have confidence in that

    Sorry if you don’t care for the way I worded it…..not gonna change tho 😉

    I just hope NOBODY has to go thru what I did in order to be saved – I wouldn’t wish all that on anyone!

    uglyprettytrash;337664 wrote:
    religious debates tire so quickly.

    PERSONAL FAITH BEATS ORGANISED RELIGION.
    imo.

    this is why we should live together!

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