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ironically in Scotland unlicensed raves are still tolerated, but as they don’t seem to get any complaints they aren’t illegal – a rave isn’t actually illegal until someone has complained about it, but it only takes one person to do so.. (also you don’t have TENS licenses in Scotland because licensing is a devolved matter).

the risks are defnitely getting greater though. its not the crews what are the problem but the little chav shits what find out about these events and start kicking off at the cops when they see them, as well as robbing people and starting fights….

I know who these “good crews” in certain areas are as I used to organise events with them myself, many are in SE England but one SE England crew what got busted last last year posted on another forum that TVP told them they have had “had enough” and will be adopting the same tactics as the Eastern constabularies this season..

The two lads from my local crew what went to jail were part of one of the better organised crews in this area. basically they got fucked over for other peopels crimes as some local townie/pisshead types escalated the hassle with the cops at one rave and gave the authorities enough justification to throw the book at them.

There have been some wider developments in society too since the middle of the Noughties – people in rural areas have become a lot more environmentally aware and any damage caused by ravers is picked up on. What is most worrying is ravers have lost the goodwill of the progressive environmentalist community which used to defend them a lot and was in fact a major reason why raves didn’t always get shut down by riot cops!

@Iacchus 379135 wrote:

hell yes they’re still going on and still wicked.. quite a few get busted this last year it would seem but there’s always a backup location, the police are just wasting their time and resources

Thats exactly what people were all saying in SE England and East Anglia just a few years ago, in 2005-2007 they thought they were unstoppable.

That said, in Metpol area raves are still possible due to the extremely high violent crime levels compared with provincial areas, and in some areas a large supply abandoned / derelict buildings (at least up to the run up of the Olympics). In this case I don’t blame the cops for leaving raves alone as they do require a significant amount of resources at detective level to investigate and when there are rapes and murders every day in the London area the detectives are much better used dealing with this for the greater good.

Eventually though the really nasty scum will fuck over a big London rave (probably leading to more rapes or murders happening at one of these events, or firearms/CS canister discharged into a crowded area) and Scotland Yard will be reluctantly forced to do something about them – in fact there is already a active case where some “posh squatter” kids all got done over by the local estate kids in their squat, a fair few of them got bottled and ended up in Homerton and Whittington (the NHS are also starting to realise they are picking up the pieces of the human casualties of raves).

The same might well apply for other city areas particularly up North but it does seem GMP are clamping down too as are the various Yorkshire forces, and they know how to deal with large stubborn groups since the miners strike..

Also the buildings the Olympics encourage will encroach on available space in some areas of London – similar happened in Norwich in early 2000s and thus a lot of warehouse venues were lost – and to a lesser extent in Reading as the economy picked up again after the 2001 recession. (since then also buildings in Reading have got better guarded due to concerns over damage caused by raves).

Another factor people are overlooking is the real threat to this nation from home-grown Islamic terrorism has virtually evaporated – but there are still a lot of extra cops brought in after 9/11 and 7/7 and the threat from drugs is viewed as interlinked…