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reports from twitter claim the man was a innocent bystander :hopeless:

or just shut down hackney?

seriously though its not uncommon for london gangs to come up all the way here via the M25 / A12 or even the train, but when they try fuckery like this our cops (a lot of them are ex metpol) tend to catch them before they get a chance to hurt too many people (some gang just shot up the area outside a high school in Ipswich last week but cops got most of the gang and no one was hurt)

OK here they don’t give folk second chances, the carribean club me, josh, damo and lots of other ravers from these ends used to party at got shut down as soon as the rudeboys caused beef there (it too was council funded) but maybe that has to be done?

this isn’t kids scrapping, its grown men with weapons no British citizen is supposed to have on the streets…

yes it is a problem with all large gatherings but if people can’t gather peaceably in a town then its unsurprising the cops and authorities might stop them doing so.. but perhaps the cops should nick these idiots a few days beforehand like they do around the time of Notting Hill?

@DaftFader 385677 wrote:

You don’t see football clubs getting shut down because of this and every time there is an unlicenced kick about on a field the police don’t turn up suited for cracking skulls do they!

big football clubs pay for fuckloads of coppers and pass the costs on in ticket prices to the fans. they can be fined a lot of money too when trouble happens.

if/when a kickabout turned into people fighting (and it does fairly often in SE London) the cops do eventually turn up.. Metpol and Essex have on occasions stopped Sunday league matches due to violence in East London / South Essex and up north Scousers are getting coppers to patrol their sunday league..

Liverpool Echo.co.uk – News – Liverpool Local News – Police to tackle Sunday league football violence

The other incidents were in Tilbury / Thurrock / Rayleigh / Basildon but the Total Essex news sites search isn’t working. but Sunday league footy across London attracts “hard man” types and even shootings aren’t uncommon there, like the bloke being shot dead in bromley in front of his kids/youth team :crazy_diz

to stop gangs is a difficult situation as it means metpol will have to risk being accused of “stopping too many young black / ethnic minority men” but there is a issue with the urban music scene and some sections of the community – they do seem to enjoy being the hard man as part of their music/partying, when with our kind of raves we might take a lot of drugs but violence was uncommon

there’s also in East London/South Essex a lot of bitter angry old men my age who are also causing a lot of shit at events as much as / more so than young people, like when Centreforce did that “summer of love (!)” old skool legal event a few years back at Loughton and it all kicked off there with someone being stabbed and the event closed down 5 hours early..

@DaftFader 385681 wrote:

that’s just down the road from me not perticulaly a bad area .. but quite a few rich wide boy idiots round that way that think they can just do what they want … just like hackney i wouldn’t choose to do an event there. hackney = rude boys / loughton = townies/chavs (i guess you just can’t avoid it tho where ever you are … )

I came close to growing up in Basildon (Pitsea to be precise) during the late 80s/early 90s :yakk:

round here in Suffolk you get a mixture of both (then add to this various communities of foreigners) but they do come up against a wider community what won’t tolerate excesive violence (older folk who left London to escape the bullshit) and therefore will (even reluctantly) work with the Police if its what needs to happen to stop people being needlessly hurt or killed.

yes its costing the “freedom” of some kinds of nightlife but its become a price worth paying until such time as people learn to behave… I thought I was being overly cynical about this area until young Josh and process who have both grown up here confirmed my observations…

@DaftFader 385684 wrote:

unfortunatly where i live it’s both as well … being on the border of essex and london.

several people have been found dead within litteraly a 5 minit walk from my front door over the last 5-10 years .. enfact some one was found dead a 30 second walk from my back garden O.o (not by me thank fuck!)

yep and whatever people say about social inequality it was just as bad if not worse 10-20 years ago and less of this shit happened in England..

East Anglia isn’t bad for random attacks but you really have to keep yourself to yourself and be aware of how harmless banter can just escalate, everyone is on a really short fuse…

yep thats true but unfortunately young people today are expendable in urban areas otherwise there would be more done to stop the violence..