what the fuck?! how come its gone up about 15p in the last 2months? wheres the road blocks and the protests! takes the piss!:hopeless:
there’s some planned by the usual lot although its more difficult for them as people are divided over the reasons they are protesting, and if we are realistic about it all the last lot did was bring our country and a few other rich ones to war to try and bully some foreigners into handing over control of their oil reserves or land where there are potential pipeline sites, and this has been a epic fail..
add to this the fact that easy oil reserves (in friendly countries or easier to extract) are disappearing – consider what happened in the Gulf of Mexico last year, and its not as if they had to battle hostile insurgents as well..
realistically, people are going to have to downsize their hypermobility and consumption. There are good reasons I am in no great hurry to get a car and rarely venture outside Ipswich these days, even if its “not as fun…”
@General Lighting 415983 wrote:
there’s some planned by the usual lot although its more difficult for them as people are divided over the reasons they are protesting, and if we are realistic about it all the last lot did was bring our country and a few other rich ones to war to try and bully some foreigners into handing over control of their oil reserves or land where there are potential pipeline sites, and this has been a epic fail..
add to this the fact that easy oil reserves (in friendly countries or easier to extract) are disappearing – consider what happened in the Gulf of Mexico last year, and its not as if they had to battle hostile insurgents as well..
realistically, people are going to have to downsize their hypermobility and consumption. There are good reasons I am in no great hurry to get a car and rarely venture outside Ipswich these days, even if its “not as fun…”
guess i best start making my own biodiesel then… SchNEWS – DIY Guide – How to make Biodiesel
apparently its lot better for environment too.
have you checked what pumps/injectors etc are in your engine? Not all modern diesel vehicles can run well on biodiesel.
you can use 2500 litres of alternative fuel per year (I have no idea how many miles this gets you) without needing to register your vehicle. What you should do however is keep paperwork about how much you either produce or purchase (even a bound notebook will be fine) just in case HMRC decide to ask questions about this.
There are other ways of filtering oil without having to deal with nasty chemicals. SCHNEWS, for all their good points, have always dumbed things down a bit (albeit no worse than the Guardian since the 1990s) and play down just how nasty NaOH is, methanol isn’t too pleasant either, and there are other waste products which simply can’t be just dumped into the Anglian Water drain. Glycerine, however, is a useful by-product if properly refined, but can’t be just “used as soap”.
if you are interested in this let me know and I will ask some other folk round here who are actually doing this (both in Woodbridge and Bungay)..
im really interested in this and yeah i know how dangerous naoh is, be good for cleaning the drains if i did chuck it away, not that environmentally sound though. if there is other ways of doing it with out using the chemicals it’d be so much easier, i though you could just filter it and then bung it in with a bit of diesel?
no idea what pumps or injectors my engine uses its a iveco 2.9td you got any idea of a site where i can go and find out… bit cold/dark at the moment to go out looking under the bonnet…
oh and regarding hmrc surely they would have to prove that i had used over that amount of biodiesel for them to tax me, and also id have to tell them i was using it in the first place, which i dont think will be happening… 😉
Oil is almost $100 a barrel which is highest for a couple of years, mainly due to supply problems and increased demand from countries like China. A certain amount of the tax added to fuel in the UK is an incentive to reduce traffic and cut emissions…not sure if that really works.
But yeah, in a few years people will have no choice but to reduce consumption of fuel, food and everything else.
@process 415991 wrote:
im really interested in this and yeah i know how dangerous naoh is, be good for cleaning the drains if i did chuck it away, not that environmentally sound though. if there is other ways of doing it with out using the chemicals it’d be so much easier, i though you could just filter it and then bung it in with a bit of diesel?[/quote]
I think you can… although the Transition groups were looking more at using the stuff to run a electric genset for something like a CSA farm out in the sticks, which needs some power but is too far out to have UKPN connect it to the grid…where the engine is of course run at much less stress than for running vehicles..
Quote:no idea what pumps or injectors my engine uses its a iveco 2.9td you got any idea of a site where i can go and find out… bit cold/dark at the moment to go out looking under the bonnet…
I’m not a expert on engines but I fear that there isn’t really any other alternative than going and looking and taking photos and asking people who do know (like on TL for instance)- your vehicle, like any others is going to have been produced in different models with different parts every few years…
I’ve had a look, but I cannot even remember for the life of me even the rough make and model of it, as last time I saw it it was mutating into a variety of different vehicles for most of the night :laugh_at: – next time it is not below zero, and there is some kind of sunlight and you are relatively awake get out there and get the details 😉 then there is loads of info online about what engines, fuel pumps, injectors work well with filtered veg oil.
I’d act quickly as you are not going to be the only one looking at this and will be competing with businesses with fleets of vehicles to get at the oil – even Anglian Water will pick up the drums from businesses as they don’t want it it going down the drain, and the big oil companies do also sometimes buy it as they can put up to 5% biodiesel into normal diesel..
@process 415992 wrote:
oh and regarding hmrc surely they would have to prove that i had used over that amount of biodiesel for them to tax me, and also id have to tell them i was using it in the first place, which i dont think will be happening… 😉
There are sometimes multi agency stops (cops/HMRC/VOSA/Ofcom/Benefits Agency/Border Agency all together) and they may check what fuel folk are using, particularly if there is excessive smoke/emmissions they do them at random times to catch everything from gary boys to misbehaving foreign drivers – and one of these checks will show you are using a different fuel..
They aren’t going to bother you seriously about this if you are clearly not a commercial driver and have not potentially got through over 2500l of fuel, and the vehicle isn’t breaking emmissions regulations due to a duff or botched conversion.
What they have done is busted gary boys for trying to fill up with supermarket cooking oil as this in fact creates more pollution (and ironically does more damage to their car than paying the tax would!) 😉
ah – seems I missed a load of posts there…went for food before I’d hit submit!
this shows its not just tax but the actual prices per barrel for import have gone up.. the link isn’t exactly from treehuggers but a science/business focused organisation..
you could.. leave a big pile of haribo (the discusting foamy heart ones) to decompose and ferment and make.. fuel! 😀 then you kill two birds with one stone cos you make fuel and you have somewhere to get rid of the yucky haribo.
buy a diesel and run it on chip fat.
i like driving. yeah its polluting and all, i know, but i love it. anyways my point of this post is that 40 quids petrol gets me fuck all nowadays and ive only been driving 3 months! used to get well more miles, and i’ve calmed down my driving (used to proper rag it, now i only.. rag it)…
and car is efficient, have cleaned pump… changed sparkies filters etc..
however the gearbox has jus died. well maybe gearbox oil. not sure, need to look tomorrow..
0
Voices
25
Replies
Tags
This topic has no tags