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  • I’ve been wondering about this for some time. All over the world, men with beards are usually viewed as older and wise, or linked to maritime activities. Both make sense as a beard keeps the wind out, and in Western education all male maths teachers seemed to have beards and also ancient druids, teachers, hippies what knew everything about computers. similar with gurus, imams and other wise men/teachers found in faith groups.

    In some religions like Islam, a tidy beard is obligatory (or being clean shaven if you cannot grow one). Incidentally the acceptable standards of beards are virtually identical for both moderate Islam and the British Royal Navy!

    In India, elaborate moustaches are prized. But over the Punjab in Pakistan, more conservative moustaches are preferred, but are valued in both nations as a symbol of authority. PK follows British moustache fashion which is “anything what is tidy and doesn’t make you look like Hitler”.#

    An old Indian dude told me “never underestimate the value of a good moustache”.

    However younger Asians like myself prefer to be clean shaven, as now youthfulness is valued and beards and moustaches make you look old. In the 80s young Pakistani men more often grew moustaches but unless they have full beard for religious purposes tend to be clean shaven. My Muslim friends said “it did not matter so much in England, you can have either provided you are faithful”.

    Also, I have very rarely seen a young Chinese with a beard. Only old men, especially in films of rural area, and hollywood movies with rather stereotypical old Chinese men in karate type movies. And these men are usually age 80+.

    anyone else noticed this? are you Asian, and if so do you have beard/moustache or prefer to be clean shaven?

    I have noticed that most asians nowadays are spotlessly clean shaven, even as you go older until you hit about retirement age. I don’t know why that is. I myself prefer the clean look for now, mostly because my beard/moustache makes me look like a serial killer.

    I’m not Asian, but this was my tash the day before yesterday … I had it for a joke as was going to the zoo with my mate and wanted to see his reaction when I picked him up to leave. :laugh_at:

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    It’s gone now …

    It would be classed as a suitable moustache in both England and Pakistan, particularly in the uniformed services :laugh_at:

    @General Lighting 481507 wrote:

    It would be classed as a suitable moustache in both England and Pakistan, particularly in the uniformed services :laugh_at:

    I’d actually get paid more if I was in the Indian police as they believe mustaches make the wearer look more trust worthy to the public.

    @DaftFader 481505 wrote:

    I’m not Asian, but this was my tash the day before yesterday … I had it for a joke as was going to the zoo with my mate and wanted to see his reaction when I picked him up to leave. :laugh_at:

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    It’s gone now …

    you look like a porn star!

    The Chap India’s Facial Hair Cutbacks

    India’s legendary moustaches are disappearing as India enters the clean-shaven digital age. The traditional Indian belief that facial hair is a sign of virility is being replaced by fears of a moustache or beard making a young man look older, or even being slightly itchy. Well-known Indian cricket players no longer have facial hair, while Bollywood actors have opted instead for “designer” stubble.

    The Chap – MAGAZINE

    When RAF pilot Flight Lieutenant Chris Ball was sent on an exchange posting with the US Air Force in Afghanistan, he was told to trim his splendid handlebar moustache. Under US Air Force rules, moustaches should not extend downwards beyond the upper lip, or sideways beyond the corner of the mouth. Flt Lt Ball’s finely waxed plumage measures a full six inches from tip to tip, in true RAF tradition.

    Flt Lt Ball, who operates an F-15 with U.S.A.F. 366 Fighter Squadron, took a noble stand on the issue: “After I was told to trim it down, I had to dig out the Queen’s Regulations to prove I was not breaching our own code.” He found that RAF Regulations state that a moustache should not extend below the edge of the mouth. However, there are no rules on how wide it can be. Flt Lt Ball measured his whiskers and found they did not contravene the rules. He took his findings to the general of his unit, and after a “frank exchange of views” was allowed to keep his pride and joy.

    I obviously pay a lot of attention to mens facial hair……..

    well the chap does and I like reading it, its funny!

    @DaftFader 481508 wrote:

    I’d actually get paid more if I was in the Indian police as they believe mustaches make the wearer look more trust worthy to the public.

    it was only a bonus of INR 100 and the old Indian dude at my work said “that is not enough for a decent quantity of moustache wax”. He actually produced a picture of him from 1967 to illustrate this, when he had a much more spectacular moustache…

    My mate has a superb tash, I cant find any pics –
    but a propper old victorian one, with the ends waxed and twisted, he looks super!!

    @Tank Girl 481523 wrote:

    When RAF pilot Flight Lieutenant Chris Ball was sent on an exchange posting with the US Air Force in Afghanistan, he was told to trim his splendid handlebar moustache. Under US Air Force rules, moustaches should not extend downwards beyond the upper lip, or sideways beyond the corner of the mouth. Flt Lt Ball’s finely waxed plumage measures a full six inches from tip to tip, in true RAF tradition.

    Flt Lt Ball, who operates an F-15 with U.S.A.F. 366 Fighter Squadron, took a noble stand on the issue: “After I was told to trim it down, I had to dig out the Queen’s Regulations to prove I was not breaching our own code.” He found that RAF Regulations state that a moustache should not extend below the edge of the mouth. However, there are no rules on how wide it can be. Flt Lt Ball measured his whiskers and found they did not contravene the rules. He took his findings to the general of his unit, and after a “frank exchange of views” was allowed to keep his pride and joy.

    Our Army and Navy have more conservative traditions (I think in the RN a moustache is not allowed without a full beard) – the real reason airmen had more flamboyant moustaches is that military aircraft are expensive and none too reliable.

    We don’t have that many of them and half are grounded or being cannibalised for parts (we actually only won the war by bluffing Hitler into thinking there were way more, by leaving out numbers in radio call signs and using a traffic light controller, lights, shells of aircraft and sounds played through an electric gramophone and amplifiers to make it look like there was more activity at certain aerodromes). This is still the case even today, since the war they even told the Queen “sorry Maa’m, only fixed wing aircraft now” as the black helicopters are all deployed to the Middle East. (this isn’t a state secret, it was reported in the Grauniad).

    Although when not flying the RAF help put together weather maps (hence why the Met Office was part of MOD until recently) RAF chaps seem to still have much more spare time than other services, and could spend this growing moustaches :laugh_at:

    @General Lighting 481527 wrote:

    Our Army and Navy have more conservative traditions (I think in the RN a moustache is not allowed without a full beard) – the real reason airmen had more flamboyant moustaches is that military aircraft are expensive and none too reliable.

    We don’t have that many of them and half are grounded or being cannibalised for parts (we actually only won the war by bluffing Hitler into thinking there were way more, by leaving out numbers in radio call signs and using a traffic light controller, lights, shells of aircraft and sounds played through an electric gramophone and amplifiers to make it look like there was more activity at certain aerodromes). This is still the case even today, since the war they even told the Queen “sorry Maa’m, only fixed wing aircraft now” as the black helicopters are all deployed to the Middle East. (this isn’t a state secret, it was reported in the Grauniad).

    Although when not flying the RAF help put together weather maps (hence why the Met Office was part of MOD until recently) RAF chaps seem to still have much more spare time than other services, and could spend this growing moustaches :laugh_at:

    It was a requirement to have a tash in the army back in the day.

    I found this by accident whilst looking for more NL radio studios – for older chaps in NL you must have one even to broadcast on the radio :laugh_at:

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    een hele mooie snor (ook de radiostudio)

    (he presents a programme on his local radio station about music from films). Peel & Maas is in the SE of the Netherlands towards the border with Germany.)

    Omroep P&M – Soundtrack

    a good moustache in the Netherlands also helps you get special license to transmit on a restricted frequency..

    (click on this to see the chap who made this equipment)

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    This OM is allowed to transmit a powerful beacon on 500 Khz which is normally restricted to marine band. It can be picked up in the USA. You may wonder – why do this with satellites and mobile telephones? but if the satellites all are kapot from sunstorms and electromagnetic blasts, ships and coastal stations can still communicate with this equipment 🙂

    (below the electronic gadget he is made is his license card from Agentschap Telecom)

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    500 kHz | PA0A

    That looks like I soldered it haha. I like how he’s used solder for welding, we’ve done this on the outside water pipe for the tap outside our front door. 😀

    Thats normal practice for RF, the whole thing must be sealed in and the metal which isn’t for interconnections solidly connected to ground. Otherwise interference signals will get out of the equipment, and they could cut across into the NAVTEX (safety warnings for shipping). Then Agentschap Telecom will be round to his house. Although they try to do things with a friendly gentlemanly chat just like Ofcom over here, in Holland they are allowed pistols and sometimes point them at folk who cause interference (like Radio Caroline in the 80s).

    the rest of it is made from a old marine radio and MOSFET output stage of 650W. you do not take too many risks with that sort of power, as it would certainly make his moustaches twirl if there was unwanted radiation…

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