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Social Networking was set alight yesterday when a series of Twitter posts from a UK MC implicated that UK Hardcore veteran DJ Sy had been involved in a serious child pornography scandal.
However, only minutes ago Core uncovered a more in-depth statement posted on DJ Sy’s Fanpage, that goes into much greater detail.The uproar began yesterday when popular MC Storm (who works closely with UK Hardcore scratchmaster DJ Sy) posted on his @realemceestorm Twitter page yesterday.
The partnership is over forever you are dead to me you are the lowest of the low registeredsexoffender
When questioned about the subject of his post he replied.
Have a look round the scene, who’s being taken off flyers.*However with rumours reaching fever pitch last night,*Tom Greenbag Dnb Dilley posted a comment quoting: ‘Carl EmceeStorm about an hour ago via Mobile’:*‘Right, enough is enough, I was told about this on Monday night. I couldn’t believe it myself. I was in shock. I really dint know what to do, so I made some calls, got the information.**
I called (lets say the Champion Scratchmaster – as for legal reasons I cannot directly name him on a social media site) on Tuesday night. He first said that it wasn’t true and he was being set up. After a heated argument I asked him out right ‘have you been cautioned for looking at indecent or explicit images and videos of children?’ And he said ‘YES’.*I started crying straight away because I knew that I could never be around him again. I could never even talk to a man that has been close to me for 15 years. We have given him every opportunity to clear his name, he didn’t want take any of the official avenues to do this.**To cut a long and very difficult story short, on Friday a officer from the risk management team from a Surrey police station called me to talk about the case at his request and I asked her point blank as a mother, police woman and ex child protection officer, would she allow him in her house?’**She said no, he is a convicted sex offender that involves images and that’s why he was on the sex offender’s register. She basically told me that even if she was to see him with children she would have to inform the parent of his convictions.
He is not allowed to work with children or vulnerable adults and he is banned from certain countries.**She advised me to tell anyone who was working with him with children.*This has hurt all of us and I’ve never cried so much in my adult life. It is true, he’s admitted it to me and that’s why the risk management team called me – to stem the flow of information so he and his family are not in danger. I cannot and will not cover up a man of this nature, he asked me to and I said no. He asked me to stand by him and lie and I said no,*I am gutted. There will be a longer statement from myself on Monday – we as a scene have had to take this action. His position is untenable with this conviction.*
I’m so sorry if this has hurt you or upset you but I’m being selfish when I say YOU DON’T HURT AS MUCH AS ME AND CHRIS! This week I’ve lost weight had about 18 hours sleep since Monday.*So basically shut the fuck up if you think we are lying. And take into context what I’ve said. There is no way in this world I would do this if it wasn’t true. He was like a hero to me a father figure and a friend. End of.’*Now first of all, this is obviously a copy/pasted text from Tom Greenbag Dnb Dilley, so if anyone has any indicators as to how to verify this please let us know ASAP. There are also two sides to every argument and with child pornography being such a serious accusation, Core is trying to find out the truth as quickly as possible. We realise a witchunt has been inevitable here (as social media is the perfect way to spread rumours!)
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE CLARITY.
Surely? Was it in his past? What was the extent? We believe a statement from DJ Sy is required is we’re in the process of trying to get one from DJ Sy himself and will be posting on Twitter, Facebook and this website once we uncover any further information. If anyone can help us find the truth, please contact us.
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he’s issued a damage limitation statement.
UK Hardcore DJ Sy Responds To Unfounded Child Porn Allegations
whilst its on the minor end of the scale its still classed a sex offence in the UK and anyone who has regular dealing with young people (including the admins and mods of this site!) are expected to keep up to date with changing legislation. After all if drugs were made legal tomorrow people wouldn’t claim then they didn’t know about the change of law…
I knew about this legislation in the early 2000s, yes I thought it was odd as the newspapers did have 16/17 year old page 3 models when I was a teen, one girl from my sixth form became one – she was judged, bullied, mocked and dropped out of school and ended up a single mother. Perhaps it was incidents like this what caused the change, but as the age of consent is 16 still it and sent and still sends mixed messages as about whether people aged 16-18 are children or adults (it appears they are somewhere in between!).
However it is active UK legislation. And if you are in your 30s/40s and interacting with youths or working with they you are expected to keep a professional distance. He may well not have been put on official sex offenders register but has would have local intelligence markers on his Police record at Surpol which will be disclosed at CRB. as the European hard dance scene attracts a significant amount of youths aged 16-18 it is not surprising these would also be disclosed at risk asssement.
This is also a big reason why teens of that age on our site find it more difficult to get into events as they come under a special category and licensing authorities make promoters jump through a couple more hoops if they want a younger crowd at their events. Even the 18-25 age events have more restrictions, subtle and random stuff like not being allowed in after certain times.
BTW I had recently to declare my cautions for drugs as part of working at the radio station as there are of course young people there, but the management said quite clearly that drugs are no problem, its child/youth protection issues they are wary about. I also make it quite clear in public (such as on this forum) I no longer have any part in organising unlicensed music events as there is a intelligence record on me for this at TVP and possibly Metpol, they could raise concerns that I might try and encourage teens to do this (in fact I do completely the opposite these days as is evident from my postings to this site).
TBH my personal views are I do not consider the 1990s era rave scene was a safe place for young people by todays standards, I am aware of some very unpleasant incidents occuring but because of the cloud of drugs everyone was under details are too sketchy to provide useful evidence on incidents 10-20 years old. Plus they were covered up well by those with influence in the scene or just ignored as young people did not have as many rights then and people treated their own age groups equally badly and I expect they still do. Teenage girls were regularly used as trophies by older DJ’s (not just superstar ones) and boys were groomed into dealing hard drugs and committing other crime and ended up sitting in prison (where of course the real nonces could get at them) whilst others made money from it.
Don’t quite know what to say really. As GL says, the age of consent is 16, yet to view ‘porn’ it’s 18, which is an odd situation because there’s essentially no law against Sy having seen these girls in the flesh, yet taking/viewing pictures of them is illegal, which shows a massive inconsistency in the law. That said though, if your line of work involves a high level of contact with teenagers, then it’s probably a wise idea to know the appropriate legislation, especially in this day and age.
Its to view or take part in it, a lot of high school kids have also been cautioned for sending each other or friends explicit pics of themselves. The same inconsistency exists in most (all?) EU countries and is a recent thing because of the permissive society and the Internet both of which didn’t exist 40 years ago when the last laws on these issues were made.
As you would expect the Dutch and and others in that part of the world take a more pragmatic view of things. Firstly they discourage the sort of celeb hero worship we have and replace it with mutual respect for hard working celebs what behave themselves. Notice how AVB or Sander Van Doorn never gets caught up in these scandals, AVB is now a happily married man with a daughter, and if you watch him performing he still acts like a 18 year old who has got his first DJ set and even shows humility and nervousness.
Also (I was reading a Dutch Police youth advice website about this) young folk themselves are encouraged to take part in other activities to increase their self esteem rather than partying and hero worshipping celebs and NL society tries to set standards that planting flowers, looking after stray cats and dogs, helping an older person with their computer or putting up a radio antenna so they can listen to their scanner or HF set as well as your normal day job and school/college are just as important as being a DJ, MC or music producer or a supermodel or presenter.. Though sadly some dysfunctional elements of UK/US culture are crossing over there 😥
I actually felt sorry for MC Storm though. Even though I think he’s a bit narcissistic, that really is a blow both to his career, the EDM scene as a whole (its already under the spotlight of suspicion) and what presumably was a friendship as well as business relationship. I was more concerned about the comments from folk trying to bury the bad news.
@MC G-Tek 505234 wrote:
Don’t quite know what to say really. As GL says, the age of consent is 16, yet to view ‘porn’ it’s 18, which is an odd situation because there’s essentially no law against Sy having seen these girls in the flesh, yet taking/viewing pictures of them is illegal, which shows a massive inconsistency in the law. That said though, if your line of work involves a high level of contact with teenagers, then it’s probably a wise idea to know the appropriate legislation, especially in this day and age.
I fit every fucking stereotype in the book – older British Asian male, but single and unmarried, looks way younger than actual age, still likes dance music and has a more liberal upbringing than many of my ethnic group and many younger friends. I know I have to watch my step (only a few years ago I seemed to be turning down offers from jailbait every other week and that was after I’d been 100% honest how old I really was :crazy: ) but I can understand and accept this – some things what went on in the 90s/00s were just wrong, same as racism and sexism in the 70s and 80s was wrong and there is less of it. Britain and Europe as societies are still developing even though we might be more advanced in some things than other parts of the world.
After both young girls and boys started disappearing in my town 6 years ago because the elders were preying on them the whole of society fought back and set proper boundaries. Its not perfect here and a shame that at least 6 people had to die but I’m bloody glad I live in a town where they are now doing their level best to sort things out.
So those pics of me years ago fucking that 17 year old deemed illegal?
Joke btw there is no such thing in my possession! though pretty sure there’s some legal footage on my other comp :S need to delete that shit.
@p0ly 505247 wrote:
So those pics of me years ago fucking that 17 year old deemed illegal?
years ago you would also have been a teenager 😉
The cops do treat incidents between folk of similar ages (although its only leeway of a few years) way different to when its a teenager being encouraged to pose for pics by someone in their mid to late 20s (most common age group to get done for this).
A lot of the time its words of advice or a caution/juvenile warning. The main concern of cops/social services are photos being circulated after a relationship goes wrong or because one half does not respect the others privacy – whereby they are used for bullying purposes or fall into the hands of actual nonces. Even for SY (who can’t be very much older than me) if he had done this in the early 1990s he wouldn’t have been arrested as it wasn’t an offence then and he would have barely been out of his teens.
Although a lot of people are supporting Sy (and others judging blaming the young girls and MC Storm) I don’t think Storm is that much of a muppet to want to damage his own career. As many folk think the UK dance music scene (other than funky house/garage/other stuff what people my age are “supposed to listen to” whilst going to a 1987 era type wine bar :crazy: )is full of underage kids, nonces and drug dealers anyway, especially with the remaining events balkanised to deprived areas of the UK which compounds the problem.
But I can understand why the laws have changed. When I read the Suffolk Constabulary crime prevention newsletter a few years ago they had a fully staffed domestic violence unit with trained officers what visited the high schools here dealing with the fallout from this sort of stuff, especially pics being shared wrongly online. I thought “nah, surely thats not really needed, just a bobby or teacher explaining things like in my day?” But young Josh said it was a really big problem amongst his age group….
@General Lighting 505224 wrote:
because of the cloud of drugs everyone was under
This cloud sounds nice, is it still floating about??
@thelog 505318 wrote:
This cloud sounds nice, is it still floating about??
I hope so!
Its still there just that its been polluted with worse chemicals these days. But at least the remaining young ravers are usually smarter at looking after themselves compared to the 90s. BTW according to the UN etc young people remain “Children” until age 18 – and (this surprised me) the UK only signed rights of the child legislation in the 1990s (which accounts for the attitudes of some older generations) and (less surprising) the USA and Somalia haven’t signed it.
More from Core magazine…
In the midst of UK Hardcore’s recent Social Media turmoil involving serious allegations made by MC Storm towards DJ Sy, one reader speaks about being an advocate for the devil, integrity & repercussions.*
The simple truth about laying your soul bare for the world to read is that people WILL judge, even those of you who say you don’t. It’s not questionable.
I know this – how? Because I’ve spent my entire life saying and believing that I don’t judge people, anyone and on a very conscious level I TRY not to. That’s not to say I don’t, because on a subconscious level I do. Example? Without thinking about it, I actually expect people to treat me in the same way that I treat them. And then I get hurt/offended/angry because they don’t. In fact, I’m sure that many of you will say your piece about what I’ve written and judge me for it.*First and foremost, I am a parent.
My children own that part of me which supersedes unconditional love. Second, I love music – it feeds my soul and has, I believe, saved my life more than once before.*To an extent, the articles that were featured in Core yesterday left me shocked, disappointed and then slightly numb. It was extremely emotive for me.
I know that many people have (here’s the word guys) ‘judged’ Core already – slating them and calling them judge and jury. There are a few issues here. Rightly or wrongly, I believe (only my opinion) that Core did not sensationalise events that had ALREADY been plastered over various social networking sites. *Having followed the mag for a long time, I think they attempted to give 2 sides to what was already a story that had been very publicly discussed – I have always felt that Core has integrity, a fact that was displayed to me yesterday by solely publishing both parties’ statements accordingly.
There was no hyped up bullshit journalism, just statements (something that was confused by some as incompetence). You have to remember, Core is fundamentally about music but included within that is media.**
So, why am I telling you this? You didn’t like it, but went right ahead and read it, and then shared it eh? Oh and then some of you persecuted Core for ‘judging’. People in glass houses. See the hypocrisy there? I’m not accusing – I’m saying think about it.
It may also be important to remind you that Core did not instigate this sorry saga.*Now, here’s the thing – IF, and I do mean IF, certain allegations that have been made are PROVED to be factual, then I as a parent feel that youngsters in society have the right to be protected. Let’s face it – the sad truth is they need it now more than ever.*I have a certain understanding of WHY things were said. To me, an ultimate betrayal of friendship would not necessarily be that an individual attempted to protect themselves (although I could not condone that). Yet the fact that OTHER people in my circle of friends knew that this had happened and had allowed that person into my home as a parent would be a different matter. Maybe I’m wrong, it’s an opinion and every single person reading this would react differently – that’s what makes us human right? AS A PARENT – my whole life revolves around loving, supporting, encouraging and most importantly protecting my children. AS A PARENT – I would also attempt to do that to any other child in any circumstance. AS A PARENT (and some of you won’t be) – it’s WHAT YOU DO.*Wanna know how I know? I’ll tell you. Some of you won’t like it, some won’t believe it, some may laugh and say it was my entire fault. I know my truth.*Several years ago, I came home from collecting my children at school, to find that the police had boarded my house up. There was a beautiful notice on my garage door to say that my house had been the subject of a new ASBO legislation: ‘Crack House Closures’. My children were in the car with me as my kindly neighbours came out from their house and began the witch-hunt.*I’ve told you that I love music. I’d moved into the house as a single mum and yes, I was – and to the bottom of my boots still am – a raver.
So you see, people JUDGED me. Yet I’ve not and have never tried to, abstain from all sense of responsibility. Yes, my children went to spend time with their Dad. Yes, I went raving (incidentally, something that my ex-partner and I also used to do regularly together). And yes, I had a good time and enjoyed’ myself (make of that what you will). BUT to go from being a raver who yes, did have fun, to being a crack dealer and a prostitute (all in the space of less than the time it took to go to and from school), took the bottom out of my world.*These allegations were made by neighbours who did not know me but assumed because I went out on a Saturday night in a short skirt/hot pants and came home at some point mid Sunday that I was someone completely different. It led to my parents not believing a word I said, being investigated by social services and the police and continuous harassment. It went on and on. It actually didn’t matter anymore whether I was guilty or not. People had judged and my life would never be the same again. Just like that. The irony of this is this – in those bleak, lonely, hard times when I was at an all time low and being snubbed by just about anyone and everyone – the ONLY people that offered me any comfort or support were ravers. You see I did carry on raving, because in a rave it’s not a case of nothing else matters. Because for those eight hours that you’re in there, NOTHING ELSE EXISTS. It’s all about the music, the people and the vibe. I knew I HAD to make it through what I was going through and the only way I knew how to do this was by music. If you were one of those ravers that randomly hugged me, had a chat and shared your smile – thanks. You really have no idea ;o)*
Ok, so what happened then? Well, all the charges were dropped – NO class A drugs were ever found in my house. Even numerous raids after, I was eventually ‘allowed’ back into my house. Job done, but was it really? Can anything ever, ever heal you from your own child walking out of school and asking why you have to sleep with men to pay for their milk. Or watching your child play with handcuffs as the police ‘help mummy find something that she’s lost’? Or said neighbours calling your precious, precious babies ‘druggy bastards’? Not really.
Does the lack of a conviction give you the strength to carry on when 2 months down the line you get drugged and gang raped ‘because that’s all your worth’? When at five years old your child learns how to make a cup of tea for you, because having spent a week in hospital you still can’t walk and they want to look after you? No. What I do know is many of you will know what hurt and pain feel like – no less than mine. What I don’t know is how many of you will understand me when I say that I KNOW the emptiness of nothingness – all consuming darkness. When you have nothing and no one other than the power and strength within you to face yourself in the mirror and know your truth. It’s ALL you have.*
Why have I been so raw? Because I understand the depth of what allegations can do to a human’s soul.*So, I go back to the comments published over the last few days on Social Media. Either way, someone’s life has been absolutely shattered. There can be no going back from this, only a desire to move forward. That desire will not be easy to uncover at this time – it will be buried somewhere in the deepest, darkest depths of their soul.*My point? Serious allegations of this nature are just that – serious. And I believe that if there IS culpability, there has to be consequences – for EVERY action there is a reaction.
I also understand more than anyone how an allegation can turn into a witch-hunt. Maybe we all need to take a step back and think? There are so many sides to stories. I often think it would have been easier if I had committed the crimes I’d been accused of – not to say they were right, but take ownership of my actions and say ‘yes, I did this’.*Whilst I, like everyone else, wants and needs the truth, I also want to try and understand both sides. It’s important, imperative even. I find it hard to see a scene that offered me so much support when I needed it, tearing itself in two – judging and blaming. A wise person once told me that for every finger you point at someone, there are always three pointing back at you (go on, try it – get your finger out of your nose and try pointing – see what happens?!)**It’s not going to be easy for anyone, we all know this – the ramifications hold a lot of weight. But if we focus on what is good, right and great about the hardcore scene then, as ravers, we will pull through together. There’s honesty about ravers and a light that comes from within and shines like a beacon from our very chests when we’re all there. In that moment, in that time – listening to the tunes that we love.
Clearly emotions are running high but we have to ask ourselves why – isn’t it ultimately because we care? I’m not saying that everyone’s showing this in the right way and I’m not supporting EITHER side here. I do believe that truth WILL win out eventually. It has to.
But in the meantime we can and will do what we do best – focus on the music, not the makers!*Maybe I sound sycophantic. Maybe I am. But I have spoken my truth. I can live with my truth. Can you? I speak to everyone reading this and include all – said DJ and MC included. Something else that someone also said to me: ‘Responsibility is a really misunderstood term’. It’s not a word, it signifies our actual abilities to respond to situations in life.
And that’s what we must ALL do – with truth, loyalty, honesty and integrity – always. Whatever happens, although people will be broken, they will learn and grow stronger – I hope
Well I hate that loudmouth MC storm anyway. I dunno what to make of it all anymore to be quite honest. All I know is, I had better delete some pics of my phone.
@thelog 505984 wrote:
Well I hate that loudmouth MC storm anyway. I dunno what to make of it all anymore to be quite honest. All I know is, I had better delete some pics of my phone.
How can you not like MC storm, he is the best MC in the whole hardcore scene, he basically started the whole MCing thing in hardcore without him there would be none. Especially good at vocal scratching, in fact he started that off too.
@Moon Miner 505988 wrote:
How can you not like MC storm, he is the best MC in the whole hardcore scene, he basically started the whole MCing thing in hardcore without him there would be none. Especially good at vocal scratching, in fact he started that off too.
Wrong, wrong and wrong again my friend. MC Storm did NOT start the MCing thing in hardcore, not by a long way (Robbie Dee, Livelee, Charlie B, and many many many others were all there before him). And he wasn’t the first vocal scratcher either, check out MC Scratchmaster Tekno, he was doing it back in the early 90’s man.
@MC G-Tek 505993 wrote:
Wrong, wrong and wrong again my friend. MC Storm did NOT start the MCing thing in hardcore, not by a long way (Robbie Dee, Livelee, Charlie B, and many many many others were all there before him). And he wasn’t the first vocal scratcher either, check out MC Scratchmaster Tekno, he was doing it back in the early 90’s man.
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