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Now I know this is a biased interview and it seems hardly fair to interview cretins to make a political party look bad BUT..
Its the BNP..
Try not to drink whilst you read this, it make squirt out your nose.
@Izbeckistan 508489 wrote:
Now I know this is a biased interview and it seems hardly fair to interview cretins to make a political party look bad BUT..
Its the BNP..
Try not to drink whilst you read this, it make squirt out your nose.
I saw this a while ago (it is an old piece isnt it? I didnt dream it did I? ;P)
what a bunch of cunts
What, to you, symbolises Britain best?
Um, I’d say maybe St George’s flag, partly because my favourite film is This Is England – it’s about skinheads, but they’re not really racist, because one of them is a black kid. They turn on him in the end, but because he was one of the gang they’re not really racist. They just believe in what they believe in.
That film must have gone straight over her head.
What a lovely bunch of girls… NAHT!
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The thing is that Vice magazine was gonna set em up to start with,
and they are so fucking ignorant not to even do their research beforehands, on Vice or…………………….. the BNP!! …….what they are stating to stand up for! without actually having a fucking clue what their policies are, or even their own beliefs or knowledge of their ‘party politics’
Its sad really, as these girls are really really letting themselves down and allowing themselves to be ridiculed,
probably just by thinking they may get some kudos by ‘posing’ in a mag
I just hope in a few years time they actually begin to think for themselves, and learn some morale’s and integrity
either that or they’ll continue to be sad, ignorant cunts….. their choice
Sometimes I think people with racist views don’t know any better…although now I’m not so sure.
I grew up amongst some very conservative people and to an extent institutionalized racism….but being an adult I know better.
Are they aware of the atrocities caused by our British ancestors, even as close as the second world war?
Are they aware of how primitive it is, for we are only animals and all species fear ‘outsiders’ ?
They are cunts for sure, but I like to think somewhere down the line they are very misguided and may need some enlightenment on political, historical and psychological matters.
Still I have no respect ignorance and volunteering to do an interview over something you know very little about with out research is god damned ignorant.
Fuck racism, fuck conflict.
@Izbeckistan 508506 wrote:
Sometimes I think people with racist views don’t know any better…although now I’m not so sure.
I grew up amongst some very conservative people and to an extent institutionalized racism….but being an adult I know better.Are they aware of the atrocities caused by our British ancestors, even as close as the second world war?
Are they aware of how primitive it is, for we are only animals and all species fear ‘outsiders’ ?They are cunts for sure, but I like to think somewhere down the line they are very misguided and may need some enlightenment on political, historical and psychological matters.
Still I have no respect ignorance and volunteering to do an interview over something you know very little about with out research is god damned ignorant.
Fuck racism, fuck conflict.
I think I was attempting to be humane – by my last post – but I couldnt get with the whole – they dont know any better –
yes – they may be ignorant – but there is no excuse for adults not to educate themselves – esp in this day and age
and I think the fact these girls allowed themselves to be taken the piss out of shows how uneducated and silly they really are
all you need to do is go to your GP or the local hospital and see how immigration is helping this country, from the doctors, nurses, cleaners and admin staff… and yes there are some nasty bastards that come in to the country and commit crimes – but er…. so do lots of our nationals…. I mean why don’t these people wake up?
I have been brought up with a really racist dad, (and grandparents) mainly ignorance and scared, (I hope!!)
as in … ‘if I know em — they’re alright’ i managed to listen to my mum, and not my dad, and educate myself – unlike my sun / daily mail reading sister….
who still to this day we have very vocal debates – (despite taking her to anti nazi league marches in the 90’s! – I did try!)
but it took my dad to come off the building sites and meet people in the ‘real’ world in his next job to realise we are all human –
no one asks to be born in a certain country or with a certain skin colour or with a certain family religion
and being born a white working class girl in the UK means I have been lucky
Being from an ethnic minority (but English born and equally proud of this as much as being Asian) and grown up before political correctness I’ve had to deal with attitudes to race (from my family as much as white people, my Dad was wary of both black people and also some whites as both were “lazy and untrustworthy”, and would prefer to hang around with various Chinese friends from a restaurant. but it didn’t stop him, at least in his youth, from having many white hippy friends for obvious reasons)..
I think things got better for a bit during the economic good times of the 90s but today the whole situation is bleaker than people want to admit – tolerance has slipped especially since the war and economic depression following the millenium.
some people from formerly dominant ethnic groups are OK when the ethnic person is serving them food or in a subordinate position, but you can sense the tension when they are their boss, or they encounter someone from a ethnic group who has done well in life (even through hard work). and I’m sorry to say this but I have encountered far more judgmental and ignorant attitudes from those on the party/drugs type crowds than from normal young people what go to college and/or hold down jobs and maybe only drink moderately, its like some of todays so called party folk positively revel in being ignorant and dumbed down….
and a lot of folk say “its the drink / drugs talking” which is bollocks, yes taking these lowers peoples inhibitions but it also shows their true selves..
@General Lighting 508513 wrote:
and I’m sorry to say this but I have encountered far more judgmental and ignorant attitudes from those on the party/drugs type crowds than from normal young people what go to college and/or hold down jobs and maybe only drink moderately, its like some of todays so called party folk positively revel in being ignorant and dumbed down….
I am thankful I party with a different crowd to what you experience GL
The guys and gals I tend to party with are 30+ both diverse in gender, ethnicity (historical and personal), mental health, drug and sexuality, I am thankful to marcus for introducing me to his mates!
@Tank Girl 508524 wrote:
I am thankful I party with a different crowd to what you experience GL
The guys and gals I tend to party with are 30+ both diverse in gender, ethnicity (historical and personal), mental health, drug and sexuality, I am thankful to marcus for introducing me to his mates!
there are loads of more open minded people like this in my area to be fair, its just that they don’t take drugs or go to parties any more! (some did but have grown out of it). or if they are younger they don’t want to. Bear in mind I’m only 10 miles away from TOWIE land and that has a big impact on many attitudes. Not everyone in EA is like that so decent folk distance themselves from that sort of culture.
People like the BNP really make me question my commitment to the idea of freedom of speech. That, and I don’t think my grandfather spent 6 years of his life fighting fascism (and another 3 helping fix the damage it caused) only for it to rear its ugly head again. It’s annoying because racism is “natural” in the sense that we are biologically programmed to distrust the unknown and feel more comfortable “among our own,” but it’s fairly easy to “unlearn” this for the most part and be tolerant and accepting. There is a tiny vein of racism/xenophobia in everyone to an extent but it’s not something difficult to overcome.
I think both sides haven’t come out too good from it. Although these girls are undoubtedly ignorant this really isn’t a subject for “light hearted banter”, as folk really do feel passionate on both sides and those girls are a soft target TBH. This is lazy journalism no better than Daily Fail crap or even much of the latest Grauniad content which appears merely to want to stir up further social conflict claiming its “debate”.
You wouldn’t get this sort of article in many North European countries – for one thing in many nations there are laws against glorifying on the hard right (though still permitting history teaching and the existence of legitimate political parties of all spectrums).
But the right would also put forward some stunning blonde Aryan girls who would put forth a very articulate well argued case for “limiting immigration on a feminist libertarian perspective” (especially using stereotypes against Muslims and other Eastern cultures) and be good eyecandy as well. and yet they can also put across a submissive image (less usual for North European girls) which will attract the young men that prefer traditional gender rôles (and there is a trend back towards these especially in DE and NL).
This is why the so-called “nanny states” have to step in, remember their politicians are of the generations what had to fight, and this fight goes well into the 1980s and 1990s. The social democratic female politicians which Northern Europe is famous for had to fight their battles against the elders of these right wing girls since the 1930s!!
Across the whole of Europe there are right wingers with brains too, who are not stereotypical knuckle draggers. in our country you won’t find them in the BNP, or even the UKIP, they might not even join the Conservative party. and many of them have done well in life and business and use this power to preserve racial divisions, without overtly resorting to extremist violence like what has happened in NO, DE, GR, FR, IT, RS since the economic depression (so they stay under the radar, as for all the faults of the “feds” they are aware of the threat to the UK from far-right extremism).
Many are aware of the Empire etc and are unrepentant.
In BBC news a while back there was an article about Asian owners and others with “non-British” names having to Anglicise their names to get business. There was British Asian dude from Birmingham who runs an engineering company had a sales meeting with prospective customers who had driven all the way from London in January when there was fuckloads of snow and bad driving conditions (its not exactly cheap fuel wise).
As soon as the customers saw that it was a British Asian owned business, they walked away without a word and a handshake and literally got back in their cars and drove all the way to London. This wasn’t in 1952 or 1982 (where perhaps it might have been expected) but 2012.
@Izbeckistan 508494 wrote:
What, to you, symbolises Britain best?
Um, I’d say maybe St George’s flag, partly because my favourite film is This Is England – it’s about skinheads, but they’re not really racist, because one of them is a black kid. They turn on him in the end, but because he was one of the gang they’re not really racist. They just believe in what they believe in.That film must have gone straight over her head.
It looks like everything has gone straight over their heads. What a bunch of dumb whores
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