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@Deezl 512947 wrote:

I could just be being an idiot, but surely loggy, or anyone copying music data for private use only would then not fall subject to that?

The bigger criminals would be those sharing the data (it would be much more difficult to to prove a data file on a computer came from stolen content, especially as the laws are being changed to permit safety backups of original data.

it is stealing but more like Robin Hood stealing from the poor to give to the rich, and in the short term has successfully forced down prices of content to make it way more affordable and put power back in the hands of the consumer, but taken to extremes it can also end up like the Monty Python sketch where a somewhat incompetent highwayman eventually gets into a big pickle over wealth redistribution.

I think the BPI’s idea is a shit one anyway, the progress of technology cannot be reversed. at the same time people can’t download music for free and then hope to end up becoming the next Tiësto or David Guetta or Armin Van Buuren. And I expect in 24 years time Fenna Van Buuren’s career will be something like a lawyer (her dad’s “real career”) or an accountant, and if she also follows in her fathers footsteps it will most likely be a second job or hobby for her…

The curious thing is DG is known mostly for who he is and not his music. I’m not even sure what genre he plays, I just see him as “chap with the hair who isn’t Steve Aoki”. Even Tiësto still produces better stuff but he is another one who is still stuck in the days of personality DJ’s, who perhaps understandably are trying to squeeze the last out of that scene until these big “EDM” events get fucked up by major safety/security incidents (its already happening such as the crush at the Telefonica Arena with about 4 dead, Loveparade 2010 etc, numerous disturbances at Dutch events).

I was on trancefixion forum and there are now so many DJ’s and producers you cannot even keep track of them. Of course the music will continue but its increasingly becoming a larger number of folk chasing after a smaller pot of euros who increasingly are juggling their involvement in the music scene with normal day jobs. Even ID&T is reporting far less attendees and revenues at their events…

Films and software are indeed often overpriced and a combination of piracy and DIY culture has pushed down the price of them, but its not a battle without collateral damage. The slow devaluing of the creative “industries” was already setting in before the Internet arrived but something which makes copyrights/protection essentially irrelevant as its near impossible to stop is obviously going to hit them even harder.

That law has been disregarded since I was in junior school, it makes sense to remove it but claiming it will generate half a billion extra revenue for the UK is pure bullshit. The money is gone, so is the will to pay a premium price for content. Both those things are not coming back. In “payment” for the widespread exchange of much cheaper or even free content, people will just have to get used to music and arts being a second job or increasingly a hobby which covers its expenses (such as how the Dutch pirate stations are financed) rather than a mainstream career. This is already the case even on prestigious public funded radio and TV stations in Europe (I noticed this when I could pick up Dutch and Belgian radio on FM because of the tropo, and did some research into the stations, shows and presenters).