Thought I would make a thread about the big party organizers in London, which ones are good and which ones are bad.
Especially as some are now charging 15 -20 quid.
They are all bad because they are breaking the law, tut tut!
@DaftFader 557605 wrote:
They are all bad because they are breaking the law, tut tut!
This, if I see any of you attending a so called “free party” I will be telling your mum!
So hard to really answer, what with crews changing, overlapping, and doing parties together; heres my contribution, but note that these are a mix of systems & crews, some which organise events and some which organize stages.
Art Of Psy Used to do good mixed events of Psy % DnB over a year ago, then they got awful (minimum deco ad sound, just for money making) THEN they started doing big parties and got good again, until that poor kid died and they had to change their name and direction (now they support other parties and do house or something)
Valhalla Good dnb, think its made of some of the same people who do shindig, often do raves with AOP
Kevlar & Fierce Alright trance & techno, again seem to work with the above crews.
Right Wronguns Good dnb, went to their link up with chaotic waves, twas alright
Chaotic waves jump up, pretty good actually, despite not liking that type of music normally.
Alternative waves Psytrance, used to do mixed partys of one stage psy, one dnb, like AOP, but now seem to have house/prog on second stage, often have good line ups with one or two international artists (saw avalon on their system and libre9)
Vibes Booo I remember them getting busted a year ago, they changed location but it was TINY meaning we didnt get in. They then did a stage at late blossom/AOP which was just awful, couldnt care less for this crew, they are doing legal events now I think.
Late blossom Beautiful psytrance & parties, shame there havnt been more recently
Origin UK mc’d jump up, use good systems, not my kinda crowed though
Shindig Pulled off an amazing Halloween party last year, but NYE was shutdown due to their awful and unsafe location which made things tricky for us, so I would say we are even. Will still go to their halloween this year.
Lost the plot Not sure what guise they go under these days but I would avoid. Although I never experienced trouble at the two parties of theirs I went to, I wouldnt take my gf there, or new ravers, etc… To have fun you need to feel safe and at peace with the people around you and I just didnt there.
Beats and pieces My fav for dnb. They would go from a filthy dnb/jump up tune to a jungle one then back again. I hear their events recently have been a bit hit and miss and im basing this on parties I went to a year ago.
SCUM On the surface, when you enter, it may look a little scary, but I didnt see any trouble. Very mixed crowed agewise, cheap entry, good locations. Only bad points are I dont love techno/tek so wasnt much music variation. Still they did have some good techno systems and requiums neuro dnb was spot on.
In future im not sure which parties I will go. What I do know is I will defiently get myself down to “Disyples of psykia 3” assuming ofc they have a chapter 3.
Hakuna Matata – Epic Psy parties.
Racoon the bloke that died at the AOP rave was my best mate who I lived with. This was the only rave I didnt go with him to……I’ve herd mixed stories on what happened, was you there or did you hear any stories from reliable people?
@Docs 557624 wrote:
Hakuna Matata – Epic Psy parties.
Racoon the bloke that died at the AOP rave was my best mate who I lived with. This was the only rave I didnt go with him to……I’ve herd mixed stories on what happened, was you there or did you hear any stories from reliable people?
Firstly let me say am so sorry for your loss.
The first I saw of him was when he was put into the ambulance. If only I had come across him during the party, I know for a fact me and my friends never would have ignored someone showing the signs of trouble that he did without asking if he was ok and taking him aside for a sit down and water.
As for stories, I have only heard what others have posted on the facebook event about it.
I can confirm it was horrendously hot and stuffy in there with no way to easily get out to a cooler spot, so much so as I would never have let my friends take drugs in there, fortunately we were all just drinking. I dont often blame the party crews for unfortunate incidents that happen at their events but the level of heat in there was unacceptable. They should have capped the number of people entering, had industrial fans at the stairways to push up the cold air and kept the stairs moving freely so ravers could get to windows for cool air and toilets for cold water. They didnt even have an outdoor space ffs, I mean what were they thinking. The coolest place we found in the building was a room right at the bottom with some aircon in and even that was still very sweaty and stagnant.
Sorry I cant be more help.
Sorry to hear that Doc…and fair comments Racoon….
Now, back to the original Question – London crews, good or bad. Too wide a question to answer really!! Depends what you want to get out of a party – top tunes, phat systems, slightly chaotic scenarios, safety, security, specific genres, all of these will have an impact on the answer.
Me, I love a bit of dirt (leather trousers don’t mind it you see), some proper craziness, some mindbending bass, hard dance across 4/4 and broken beats!, some old skool chaps/chapesses to chew the fat with, a door I can help out on, and a route to leave nice n early (coz I is old dude!) – so that for me is Scum. However, Scum got some pretty bad press a couple of years back – the guys who coordinate it seem OK, the rigs that go are the nuts, and the folk there seem reasonably well behaved (although I wouldn’t take me mum!)
NYE at E&C was the titties :bounce_g::bounce_g::bounce_g::crazy_dru
TBH other than it is more easy to openly consume drugs at an unlicensed event (or even a TENS licensed event where the venue does not have CCTV and a policy of cops and door security staff actively cooperating) there really isn’t any difference safety wise between a licensed or unlicensed event in London (or any large city) any more, although licensed events charge slightly more for entry due to larger running costs. In London mainstream venues keep Metpol, London Ambulance and the local hospitals busy enough as it is (as well as a far higher level of overall crime) that these warehouse events are a drop of water in the Thames in comparison.
People have fatal OD’s all the time at Fabric and such places and they don’t get locked off although they get more conditions put on their licenses (including siuch bizzare things like the CSI boffins working for NCA etc being authorised to divert the waste pipe from the urinals – as this provides a source of info on what club drugs are being consumed, albeit gender-skewed…)
Interesting that progressive house is being played at underground events now, as that was once viewed as a mainstream/commercial genre and even tolerated in townie nightclubs in the provinces, nowadays in my town playing anything over 128bpm would get the venue watched for drug usel.
In any case several townie venues have closed recently as the cost of a night out in town has risen to the level where even for non drug users visiting London by train instead and maybe staying overnight at a cheap hotel or with friends is equally cost effective.
i don’t really know much about crews but systems like stinkypink, kss, e1s, malfaiteurs, hub, hackney sounds put on banging tek/acid squat parties that are a lot cheaper and basic than these massive production psy and dnb parties. the ones i mentioned are just bare bones squat parties with no deco, fat systems and banging tunes.. which is all that i want from a party really
(i have only recently moved to london and found out about the party scene here so correct me if im wrong in my explanation above)
i went to the squat party the other week ‘london fuckin tekno’ with the liberators and some other good dj’s and it was only £5 in for a proper banging night, and i saw no trouble whatsoever, just a lot of crazy ravers – quite old skool vibe. also saw a couple shagging against the outside wall of the warehouse on my way home lol
@General Lighting 557631 wrote:
although licensed events charge slightly more for entry due to larger running costs.
I don’t find this to be the case anymore. Barring some really posh nightclubs the prices I have paid for licensed events has usually been cheaper than a rave, especially as a student. Entry prices for a nice venue like Koko will set you back all of £7 (£5 if you are a student) and there are many others with similar prices. Raves are becoming way too expensive now.
@Docs 557624 wrote:
Racoon the bloke that died at the AOP rave was my best mate who I lived with. This was the only rave I didnt go with him to……I’ve herd mixed stories on what happened, was you there or did you hear any stories from reliable people?
oh, sorry to hear that docs 🙁
sorry to hear that too docs 🙁
Didn’t know malf were still running, used to go to loads of their parties back in the day … Was telling izbeck that most of the soundsystems I know don’t play out any more … good to know at least one or two still do. 😀
@joksgez 557632 wrote:
i don’t really know much about crews but systems like stinkypink, kss, e1s, malfaiteurs, hub, hackney sounds put on banging tek/acid squat parties that are a lot cheaper and basic than these massive production psy and dnb parties. the ones i mentioned are just bare bones squat parties with no deco, fat systems and banging tunes.. which is all that i want from a party really
(i have only recently moved to london and found out about the party scene here so correct me if im wrong in my explanation above)
i went to the squat party the other week ‘london fuckin tekno’ with the liberators and some other good dj’s and it was only £5 in for a proper banging night, and i saw no trouble whatsoever, just a lot of crazy ravers – quite old skool vibe. also saw a couple shagging against the outside wall of the warehouse on my way home lol
It’s only really psy raves that charge this much, they have always charged more then most raves, as they seam to put a bit more effort in due to the nature of the music and the whole psychedelic surroundings thing. Psy parties are getting a little excessive now though (price wise). Give me a little grubby hole under a train line with a stack of speakers and £3 on the door and I’ll be happy enough. 😛
@barrettone 557646 wrote:
I don’t find this to be the case anymore. Barring some really posh nightclubs the prices I have paid for licensed events has usually been cheaper than a rave, especially as a student. Entry prices for a nice venue like Koko will set you back all of £7 (£5 if you are a student) and there are many others with similar prices. Raves are becoming way too expensive now.
Sorry to hear that mate, not good 🙁
@Docs 557624 wrote:
Hakuna Matata – Epic Psy parties.
Racoon the bloke that died at the AOP rave was my best mate who I lived with. This was the only rave I didnt go with him to……I’ve herd mixed stories on what happened, was you there or did you hear any stories from reliable people?
Cheers Racoon and thanks everyone!……From the toxicology results he just had MD in him (2.6 to each something of something of blood) so he just purely overheated….he was new to the scene probably his 3rd or 4th rave and probably only 3rd or 4th time taking MD so wasnt to savvy. Doctors said all he needed was a splash of water and some fresh air……Been told he stripped himself down to his boxers so he knew he was overheating just had nowhere to cool down. Psysafe said people was recording him fitting and shit which is not cool! but im not sure if they just said that to keep the attention away from them…..
Shit happens, we all think we are invincible and we know the risks we take but sometimes it comes on top. Stay safe peeps!
But yeah. Hakuna Matata (freakyhz) is back from brazil so get your scrawny arses to one if you like psy because they are epic.
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