Sleep deprivation + MDMA = Psychotic Experience My experience Last night I was at a nice party good vibes,had about 4 hours sleep the night before and was working all morning to the late afternoon. I was loving it until about 5am when everyone around me looked to be disabled like completely mindless, people would be spluttering have huntched backs and strange hair, this only happened in darkness... when a light was one everyone would go back to normal, also i found that girls looked completely normal and the boys looked like some sort of monsters, even my own friends it was still them but a retarded version of them, I felt like I had been thrown out of this world and into another where i had no clue what was going on.It was quite frightening now i think about how deluded i was and was convinced the party had been over run with disabled hobos. I was telling my friend there asking him whats happening to everyone and he couldn't understand what i was saying. Such a strange expirence defiantly one i'm going to remember for a long time. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Or heard anything similar?
Rabies vaccination and mdma So tomorrow I'm getting my first rabies jab but I've already planned to do Mandy in the evening. Is this a bad idea? Will the drug effect the vaccination and will I become ill? I've taken Mandy before and it's never really had much of an effect on me to be honest but I just want to make sure I won't die!
Hands up who made this phone call over the weekend? Hey guys,
I fully appreciate - certainly considering that this is a first post - how this link to a video for which I'm hoping to raise the viewing figures could be construed as spam.
Anyway, the song/video came about as a result of a chance missed call at 11pm on a Friday night - or, to be more specific - the consequent phone message.
Naturally, the users (pun unintended) of this particular forum will be all too familiar with the nature and content of the phone message, and may even have made a similar phone call at the weekend themselves. Along with millions of other people in major cities across the globe.
Alas, our highly antiquated system and resulting mainstream culture still perceive 'DRUGS IS DANGEROUS! DRUGS IS ILLEGAL! dRUGS IS BAD!' - despite the fact that the majority of the clear thinking, tuned-in percentage of the population like to get off their rockers at the weekend. And with good reason. You may concur it's entirely liberating and beneficial to the body, mind and soul to share good, positive energy with your fellow human beings.
Alas, we're conditioned as a society to believe a far more fearful load of bollocks. Or feel the need to lie to ourselves and/or others about the fact we DO like to smash it.
Regardless of law or social norms and values, the plain fact of the matter is that a rapidly burgeoning number of human beings existing on planet earth do drugs happily without losing their jobs or abusing their kids. It's time to stop lying and demonizing and universally admit - IT'S OK TO GET ON IT!!!
Which is where I'm hoping this video can do its bit. The circumstances leading to its existence are synchronistic indeed - 10 seconds earlier and I would have received the phone call and there would have been no message. I didn't immediately hear the message and think 'let's make a novelty dance track out of it' either. To sound like the biggest pill-munching hippy there ever was, it's as though the MDMA did it all for me.
In full accordance with that, a bunch of us necked a pill each last Friday and took to the streets of Brixton with a video camera - and promptly got barred from the area for the weekend by three coppers who I think are getting their A level results this summer.
Still got the result we were after though, the MDMA always saves the day! And directs the video and produces the song by all accounts.
Anyway, after much ado, here's the link. And by all means, share away on social media if you think it's a worthy cause.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7a7F5fBWFs
p.s. The guy who left the phone message asking for pills (entirely not by design) is the same dude delivering the pills in the video. Good old MDMA!
EXPERT WARNS THAT SUPERMAN PILLS MIGHT HAVE CHANGED APPEARANCE After 4 men died in suffolk from what they thought were supermen ecstasy pills, which you can see here:
Mixmag | FOUR DEAD DUE TO SUSPECTED DANGEROUS ECSTASY BATCH
Now even more of these PMMA containg pills are doing the rounds which look quite different but are possibly the same pills. You can xsee them here;
Mixmag | EXPERT WARNS THAT SUPERMAN PILLS MIGHT HAVE CHANGED APPEARANCE
Coming up too quick on mdma?! So last weekend i was at a mates house it was only the 4 of us as a few mates couldnt make it , we were all taking MDMA but me and freind A were taking capsules that we bought for £10 while freinds B and C had a gram between them amd they were taking lines. I took my capsule after taking 2 average sized lines of my mates stuff at the same time as Friend A about 20 minutes later i start to feel it kicking in , i felt good , i noticed i was talking a lot more and faster , friend A seemed fine ( he hadnt taken any lines though) about 10 minutes later i really start to feel it but not in a good way the rush was too imtense amd i was getting too hot , i didnt say anything as ive came up too fast on ecstasy before and been fine so i went to the bathroom and tried to cool down. I splashed my face with water and ended up stripping down to my boxers and soaking my hair with water , i then tried to make myself sick cause thats what i done when i came up too fast on ecstasy , but this time i couldnt be sick even though i had my fingers down my throat and had ate not long ago , soon 2 of my friends came up after getting worried , i got a hug off them and went back downstairs and felt great. Anyone know why i felt like this ? This ever happened to anyone ? Any help appreciated , thanks
Serious Amsterdam hookup Going to Amsterdam next week with some friends for 5-6 days. Looking for hookups of some good ecstasy or MDMA. Money is no problem, can pay nicely if needed for some serious good stuff.
Any ideas on how to get some. I know street dealers is out of the option. Is it possible to score some outside the nightclubs or other places, or do we have to look inside the clubs? How to approach?
Any help is really appreciated!
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What is Ecstasy? Ecstasy
aka E, Pills, XTC, X or Extasy.
So what is Ecstasy?
Ebeneezer Goode!
If you sit down and talk to some of the sad old gits who are still out and about in the dance 'scene' you won't have to wait too long to find one or two harking back to the heady days of the (second) summer of love, Balearic beat, Madchester, whistle possees, M25 parties, Castle Morton and doves...the rush of interest in new music, new vibes, new values and new drugs. Ah, heady days. This was the sound that we'd all been waiting for. Top one, nice one. Ecstasy that was actually pretty much full of MDMA, and a buzz that seemed to go on for years.
Things move on, as is the nature of things...and somehow ecstasy use has remained popular, gaining popularity with each new generation of party people. For many Europeans, it's the power of E (or mitsi's, or whatever's about right now) that's been driving 'dance' (in its many forms) into the clubs, onto the streets, and into the houses of happy smiling people who just want to be having it. Large.
Most people who use ecstasy just seem to take it for granted that the pill(s) they've bought will contain a variety of chemicals. For the purists, ecstasy should only contain 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine, (MDMA). If it really has to be pressed into a pill then I guess bulking and binding agents are allowed. Most pills contain other drugs too - similar chemicals like MDA or MDEA, amphetamine (speed), ketamine (an anesthetic used in veterinary surgery) or even LSD (acid). Some pills contain no MDMA at all. Some people manage to purchase pills containing no psychoactive ingredients at all. Of course this has nothing to do with ecstasy, and everything to do with the illegal market in which they're dabbling. It's all part of the deal.
...a sunny "hello!"
Active doses fall in the 80mg - 150mg range. Above this dose the experience becomes very 'speedy'. In Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved (PiHKAL), Alexander Shulgin provides some wonderful qualitative comments about his experience using 120mg of pure MDMA. He finishes..."I am complete". Lots of people using e describe feelings of universal connection, closeness, excitation, euphoria and a rush of energy. People feel dis-inhibited, talkative, and keen to talk about personal things in a way that seems deep and significant to them.
MDMA encourages people to feel closer to the people they are with.
If you're using e with a few close friends (or just one special one) in a relatively quiet environment at home the experience will be markedly different to what you can expect to experience in a hot, noisy, crowded club full of people who are also off their faces. Horses for courses, as they say. I'm sure someone, somewhere, still says that.
The effects usually start within about half an hour. Sometimes an inexperienced user can feel a bit confused or anxious. High doses, or chemicals other than MDMA, can also cause some of these unwanted effects. High doses can initially cause a lack of co-ordination and dizziness. If this happens, it’s a good idea to sit down until the rush passes.
Ecstasy has both stimulant and hallucinogenic qualities. Some pills cause a distortion of sound and vision. These distortions are caused by pills that contain chemicals with more potent hallucinogenic properties, including drugs like LSD or ketamine.
The effects usually last for four to six hours, peaking after about two hours. If someone takes a pill that lasts for longer than this then it probably contains amphetamine (speed). They’d feel ‘up’ and have loads of energy, but wouldn't’t feel the closeness associated with MDMA.
Taking a 40mg dose about one and a half hours after taking a 120mg dose will extend the effects of the e for about an hour without increasing the physical side effects (eye twitching and teeth clenching) significantly. Bear in mind of course that unless you know the purity and potency of the pills that are available, it will be difficult to estimate dosages.
Twitching eyes and a world-class gurn?
What else does it do?
Ecstasy is a stimulant drug. Some of the physical effects of ecstasy include dilated pupils, dry mouth and throat, increased heart rate and blood pressure, jaw tension, increased sweating and loss of appetite.
MDMA interferes with the body’s temperature regulating mechanism, so body temperature can increase to potentially damaging levels. It also encourages the body to increase production of a hormone called ADH (anti diuretic hormone) which prevents your body from excreting urine. You don’t pee as much as you would normally.
A lot of researchers are wondering what the long term effects of ecstasy are. Some research suggests brain damage and liver damage. Other research discounts this. It’s difficult to provide clear information when different pills contain different chemicals. The truth is, no-one knows for sure whether using e is harmful in the long term. Aside from physical health risks, there is also an increasing body of evidence suggesting harm to psychological health for some users.
Me want stay on planet, have lossa good time, no?
Let's just assume, for the sake of argument, that you've decided to use e and you've managed to find a source of quality MDMA. It's difficult to talk about the risks of all the chemicals it might be, and MDMA does have a few risks all of its own. Big risks with ecstasy are overheating and dehydrating. Ecstasy is often used at clubs or parties where people are dancing and getting hot and sweaty. Someone using e in this kind of environment needs to drink about a pint of liquid over the course of each hour to replace the fluid they are losing through sweating. You should drink water, fruit juices or 'sports' drinks. Avoid alcohol, not only does it also dehydrate, it will bring you down from the e. Eating salty snacks (or drinking those 'sports' or 'isotonic' drinks) will replace the minerals that are also lost when you sweat.
Ecstasy prevents people from going to the toilet (to pee) as much as they might do normally. If someone isn’t sweating they don’t need to take as much fluid on board; drinking a lot could actually be very dangerous. Water isn't an antidote to ecstasy, it's an antidote to dehydration. If you're not sweating, you don't need to replace fluids.
Drinking too much water can cause the brain to swell, leading to collapse, coma or even death. .
The after effects of ecstasy use can include insomnia, anxiety, irritability and paranoia. The range and severity of after effects depends on the amount of ecstasy that is being used, and how often it's used. Sleeping and eating will aid recovery. Essential nutrients, particularly vitamin C and calcium, will need to be replaced. If you take vitamin and mineral supplements before taking ecstasy your body will have time to absorb the nutrients, and recover more quickly. Your body should be able to tolerate up to 3g of Vitamin C in one dose, although obviously if you have any kind of stomach complaint you should seek proper medical advice before taking large doses of citric acid. Don't forget to rest properly, too.
If you’ve been taking e every weekend and are starting to find that the days in between are becoming unbearable it’s time to take a break. Some people have developed short term mental disorders like anxiety, depression, low self esteem and paranoia after using e regularly. If this sounds like you, or a friend, then you'll be pleased to know that these people's moods generally lift once they stop using for a while. It needn’t be forever. The same applies if you find yourself needing more pills to get the effect you want. Once you’re taking more than two pills in an evening the effects are more like speed. And it's not a race, you know.
If you’re going to use e, it’s safer to use small amounts occasionally with a long enough gap between uses to enable your body to recover.
Taking large does of e, using it regularly or not acting on the risks we do know about is more likely to lead to damage to your health.
It's worth bearing in mind that e will have a significantly adverse impact on your ability to identify anything that doesn't sound like a good idea. It can dramatically affect your ability to make rational decisions. It will severely limit your ability to feel inhibited about very much at all. Be careful what you agree to...I know of at least one poor soul who proposed marriage in a state of ecstatic union, and repented at leisure. Precipitated by a particularly fine evening at the Ministry of Sound, London, UK. If you're reading this, sweetie, this is your cue to say "bastard!"
You have the right to party.
In the UK ecstasy use is illegal. The chemical MDMA is controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 as a Class A, Schedule 1 drug.
Other Class A drugs include heroin, LSD and cocaine.12…9596
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The secret life of ECSTASY The secret life of ECSTASY
You may have seen a new anti-ecstasy billboard sporting myriad ecstasy pills and the caption 'which onE is the killer?' Well it may have something to do with the country you're in, not the pill itself.
Scare tactics are no good if clubs can lose their licence for allowing official pill testing and harm reduction is seen as 'giving in to the drugs war'
In the UK there have been around 80 deaths attributed to Ecstasy. In the same period, there were between 20-30 deaths in the Netherlands - but even the Dutch aren't sure if that many deaths were due to Ecstasy itself.
As the Trimbos Institute (Netherlands Institute of Addiction) say, 'the exact number of deaths related to the use of amphetamines and ecstasy is unclear. In the Cause of Death statistics of the CBS these substances rarely occur as underlying causes of death. Over the past 10 years no more than 1 to 3 acute deaths per year were involved.' In plain English, they are saying that so few people have problems with Ecstasy that they're not sure if it's a killer in itself.
So why do far fewer people die in the Netherlands from Ecstasy use? It may be due to the Dutch policy of harm reduction for all drugs. In the case of Ecstasy, it means 'ecstacy' pill testing in clubs as well as public warning from their health ministry when potentially lethal 'ecstasy' pills are discovered in circulation.
So does Ecstasy have the potential to kill? Ask the scientists and they will tell you that the LD50 (lethal dose that killed 50% of a group of rats/mice) of MDMA is 97mg/kg, ie. a person weighing 170kg would have to take around 150 Ecstasy pills or more before death occurred. However this is taken from the animal world and if you read the small print, you will see that the doses were administered IP, that is, injected into the membrane that holds the major organs together.
In the human world, there is anecdotal evidence that large amounts of Ecstasy can be consumed orally with no apparent long term effects. There are several instances of people consuming hundreds of pills and living to tell the tale.
So why is Ecstasy thought of as being such a big killer in the UK? There are three possible reasons, which relate to poor provision of resources for drug takers in clubs.
First of all, many clubs still do not have proper ventilation, running cold water and 'chill out' areas to prevent heatstroke, a major cause of death for Ecstasy users in the UK.
Secondly, the 'Barry Legg Act' effectively means that a club that allows Ecstasy testing can have its license taken away - the police can use Ecstasy testing as 'proof' of drug taking and have a venue shut down for good. This means a greater chance of consuming non-MDMA substances like DOB, DXM and PMA which really can be lethal.
Thirdly, the UK Government do not follow Dutch practice and publicise the discovery of lethal 'ecstasy' pills - the National Poisons Unit will test pills and pass data onto people like the police, but Joe Public is kept in the dark. Luckily, it's legal to own an Ecstasy Testing Kit in the UK.
Used correctly, MDMA doesn't necessarily have to be a killer at all - certainly in comparison with tobacco and alcohol, which kill many hundreds of thousands every year. More research into safety is needed.
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Designs for a Pill Press! Make Your Own Pills Hey,
Erm I've designed a pill press machine well started to anyway and I was wondering if anyone would like to help me improve on the design I have so far (below) also whether anyone wants to help me figure out HOW TO MAKE IT, such as finding materials, etc....
Take a look at the design below and have a think... Carrying powder around and trying to sort out bombs and lines in clubs is a pain... just make a pill before you go out and you're sorted...
See if u cant help me out!
Cheers guys!
Jack
Peace n Love12
MMDA or Ecstasy needed…. Can you help a girl out :) Hey All,
How we all doing:wink:
I'm living in Dublin and looking to know if anyone could guide me on finding good source of MDMA/Ecstasy?
I know people are saying go to local raves but I still find it hard to get, and been honest I dont particulary like going up to everyone asking them if you know what I mean:laugh_at:
Anyways, any help would be appericate or you may know a vendor or source that I could contact.
Any help is soooooooooo much apperciated!!
Sure PM me for chats :wink::lol_big: x x x
hard to find Not here very often but I'm in los angeles, ca and I'm super frustrated because no one has E anymore...maybe I'm just too old...lol but I'm seriously looking for it....planning a big ..joyous holiday and want to njoy it....
help! [PVR][/PVR]
What is black mandy? Aright guys. I am a regular user of mdma so I know the jist of whats good and bad but today I was given black crystals said to be mdma. My friend has told me he has seen and taken black mandy before and told me that it isnt good and that it gave him a small up and then an immediate come down following after the actual come down.
Has anybody seen or heard of this before and should I be cautious?
Ecstasy Research Hello,
I am a third year Psychology student and I am extremely interested in the effects of MDMA on cognitive function.
And I have decided to conduct an experiment on the effects of MDMA on Prospective memory, while accounting for a previously not considered variable of stress.
Unfortunately I am struggling to find individuals who have used MDMA/ecstasy within a university population, so I am reaching out to this forum.
If anyone could take the 10 minutes to complete my survey I would be very grateful.
https://www.survey.bris.ac.uk/ntupsychology/mdmaandmemory
Also, you make up your own unique identifier, my apologise that this is not clearer in the introduction.
Thanks12
crazy after doing molly Recently a friend of mine and I did molly. It was both of our first time but other more seasoned users that tried it said it was great stuff. I'd agree since it made my nose want to fall off and I could immediately feel the affects. Textures were awesome and we were having a great time at this party:bounce_fl:bounce_g:. All was well until about 7am when we tried to go to sleep. My friend woke up screaming and said she saw a girl in the room :yakk:. I told her to chill and we went back to bed. It's been 2 days now and I just found out that we've been having all the same symptoms ever since. I've seen things, like people not actually there, or faces flashing above me when I wake up. Also whenever I try to sleep, I hear voices as soon as I close my eyes. I get light headed often and my pupils sometimes begin to shake. Overall I can't handle the paranoia. Neither of us have been able to sleep alone since or even be home alone because of what we might see. Everything is so vivid and real from the voices to the hallucinations. My house is also haunted so that might be the problem. I'm hoping not. Do you think there was something in our molly? How long will this last? Is this normal? :you_crazy
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