2-methyl 2-butanol Anyone have had the stuff? Was thinking about ordering a little, one of my RC sources sells it. Kinda expensive, but I just need a couple doses. If it's worth fucking with I'm sure there are industrial sources pretty cheap.12
dreaming of RC’s When I stop taking hallucinogens for more than a month or so, they pop up in my dreams. In the past 3 weeks, I've had dreams where I go to the local store and purchase a variety of research chemicals (what a magical store it was), the rc's are all in designer pill form all very unique designs. The dreams are so real and vivid. When I take the pills I start getting full visuals and everything:weee:. usually by the end o the dream it turns horrid and I get arrested with all of these things in possession:cry:. anyone else have this happen to them?12
New reserch Chems With the more than possible ban on 4-MMC in the near future, I was just wondering if anyone knew of any other similar reserch chems that have not yet come into the media spotlight... Wish people hadnt been soo stupid as to over do 4-mmc as realy like it, gutted its gonna dissapear off the radar soon. Even if it is still avalible through non legal sorces the price is prob gonna hike up to that of coke.12
DXM + St. John’s Wort Yes I enjoy dxm. Get over it.
I had 2 doses of St. John's wort yesterday and 1 this morning..
I plan to take a 500mg dose of dxm several hours later (not with St. John's wort).
Will I get serotonin syndrome and/or die?
I used to take 5htp, now I'm trying St. John's wort.
I've never felt any bad effects when I did do dxm several hours later after taking 5htp.
What does ye think?
My 6 Hour Nightmare Saturday night. I went round a mates house and the theme of the night was to get as fucked as possible. Bearing in mind i had had no sleep at all the prior night this wouldn't be that hard for me. also the fact i had nothing to eat would help the situation as well! :crazy:
Started off with a couple bombs and few lines of lone, with a bit of poodle thrown in for good measure.
Couple hours in i decided to drop this trippy pill i had, had never done it before so thought it was a brilliant idea.
bout half hour later i started to feel really sick and went to the bog to chuck up.
Got in the bog and retched a bit, after doing this the toilet started to fade in and out, the walls started to breathe and everything started to get really colourful.
Went back into the living room and I really started to trip out, But it was really enjoyable to begin with. everything was really colourful and vibrant and i was having a really good time.
I was seeing all sorts of stuff, A mate of mine who had been up for three days straight had boshed 12 pills which were trippy as well and he was seeing the same stuff as me.
Then it happened. It started to get more and more intense but it wouldn't let up, it just hit me in waves and waves and i suddenly became very overwhelmed with what was happening to me. Then I was transported to a nightmarish world where it seemed the world had just stopped working and nothing made any sense.
I was seeing and experiencing all sorts of fucked up shit, One world had question marks attached to everything and nothing made sense, I felt as though my world had gone completely mental and i would be trapped in this hell forever.
Me and my mate suddenly saw orbs floating around the room and the next thing we knew they started dive-bombing us causing us to seek refuge under a couple of covers, every time we looked out we were confronted with hellish images and extremely fucked up looking beings.
Our mates who were not tripping thought this was funny as fuck but we failed to see the funny side of it.
The music didn't help either, Every time a new tune came in my friend and i were transported to another hellish world.
It was so fucked up, I felt like i had been poisoned and that we were the recipients of a really horrible and unfair joke.
Then my vision turned really strange and i was seeing trails, bats and actual energy floating around the room, we were actually in hell.
I then came to the conclusion that i had been poisoned but i then i realised i was under the influences of drugs and that if i didn't play the game i would come out of it. I then just accepted that i was fucked and things would get better.
People were offering me drugs and i turned them down cos i believed this was the root of the problem and that if i carried on doing the rugs it would prolong my nightmare.
It was so strange how i came out of it. I just remember coming to, sort of like coming out of a K trip and i was fine, no bad after effects at all, It was such a bizarre experience.
I have only ever done acid and shrooms the once before but this was something completely new to me.
Me and my mates had a good old laugh about it afterwards and i'm up for doing it again now that i know what to expect but at the time i truly believed the world had come to an end!
Very interesting night! :laugh_at:123
The next Big High? 2C-T-7 New drug fashions | Special reports | The Observer
The next Big High?
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Attempts to dodge the Law meet cutting-edge science in new drug fashions [/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif] Carl Wilkinson
Sunday 21 April 2002
The Observer
[/FONT] Recently a handful of off-white tablets called Blue Mystic were found by French customs at La Chapelle in the Ardennes. The discovery was not a major drugs haul but it pointed to the possibility of a new, European, source of manufacture. Two months earlier three-and-a-half Blue Mystic tablets had been found in a London club's amnesty bin. This could signal the birth of what may well be the drug of tomorrow and raises questions over how British laws might deal with it.
Blue Mystic or 2C-T-7 as it's officially known (street names include T-7, 7-Up and Tripstacy) originated in California, designed as a possible therapeutic drug. It has since found underground notoriety on the US dance scene, and been held responsible for a number of teen deaths. Now it is finding its way into Britain
.Is it legal? This is where things get complicated. In the US, press concern centred on the fact that T-7 seemed to be perfectly legal. As for Britain, it appears to slip down a dark alley of blurred legality. When The Observer approached the Home Office and the Department of Health's Medicine Control Agency, the bodies which deal, respectively, with the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 and the Medicines Act 1968 - the two pillars of British drug laws - neither had heard of T-7.
After some checking, 2C-T-7 was found not to be a controlled substance under the Misuse of Drugs Act and therefore legal to possess. Nor is it listed under the Medicines Act: it 'does not hold marketing authorisations in the UK and has not been licensed for use in clinical trials', says the MCA. This means that while illegal to supply as a medicinal substance, it could be supplied - as it has been through websites in the US - as an 'experimental, raw material' of a 'non-consumptive, non-ingestive, non-food, non-culinary, non-medicinal nature'.
But what makes T-7 important - besides pointing to trends in the creation and use of illicit substances - is how it highlights (along with other similar substances) the rather clumsy, arbitrary nature of British drug laws and points up the laws' grey area. Ecstasy (MDMA) is outlawed as a Class A substance; T-7 is completely uncontrolled and borderline legal; Prozac is heralded as a wonder drug; yet the three drugs alter the brain's chemistry in similar ways.
In the US there is a curiously sloppy amendment to their Anti-Drug Abuse Act (1986) called the Controlled Substance Analog Enforcement Act (or more commonly, the Designer Drug Act). This law was brought in as a catch-all to mop up any future substances with compositions or effects similar to currently outlawed drugs, which might otherwise slip through current laws. Under this act, T-7 could theoretically be outlawed if it is proved to be an analogue, but whether the law is actually applicable - considering the wording of the vending website's disclaimer - remains to be seen. There is no British equivalent of the Designer Drug Act, but it is accepted that all hallucinogens are automatically classified as Class A drugs.
The search for new drugs, and especially ones that tiptoe around current laws, is ongoing. Though now it is felt by many pharmacologists that the creation of new substances from scratch has become far less likely simply through the exhaustion of possibilities. What is more likely is for a previously discovered substance, created through bona fide medical research, to be uncovered in an obscure academic journal and recreated in an underground lab in much the same way as T-7.
As those on the fringes of the drug-using pack continue their search for something new, the Law has difficulty keeping up with the underground chemists. There have been attempts to speed up official recognition of new substances. In 1993 the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA) was set up in Lisbon. It is meant as an early warning system that keeps track of the drug situation across Europe and provides an information-sharing platform for individual countries within the EU.
But despite these attempts to cover all bases, drug trends are fluid and unpredictable. No matter how distasteful some might find it, fashion works in drugs as much as it works in other 'consumer' areas. What is big this year may well be shunned the next. Or, alternatively, this year's drug craze could be the next decade-defining drug. What is certain, though, is that wherever grey areas in the Law exist, someone, somewhere, will be exploiting them.
Title change re: Methadrone From DJ Cliffy. I replied I would think it over...
Hey Dr B, how are you? I'm a bit concerned about the methedrone thread and the impact it's having on certain members. Too many one post wonders asking for info on this stuff and then bombarding said members with PMs asking for links. If you google the drug, Partyvibe comes up top of the list and i fear it won't be long before we start attracting the wrong sort of attention, ie cops etc. Probably just being paranoid but maybe the actual thread should be renamed so it doesn't appear on google although i'm not 100% if it would change anything.
Anyhoo i'm just thinking it might be for the good of the site to have it changed. Dunno what to though lol!
The thread is Methadrone / Mephedrone / Meow / Miaow / 4-MMC
What do you think mate?
Cheers pal.
Magic! Anybody heard of this? I've heard its like mdma but then towards the end turns kinda trippy! I'm not sure if somebody was just winding me up though!
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