Legal Advice please. Its not for me its for a friend (it really is for a friend)
They went to this club about 2 weeks ago, which has a working swimming pool next door. Basically at some point in the night someone opened up the doors to the pool and quite a few people went for swim. My mate (i say mate, but..) got a call from the cops a week later and they had found his wallet at the bottom of the pool (idiot). Apparently after he got thrown out of the pool it then got trashed and something got stolen although they wont tell him what?! They asked him all the usual questions, any way long story short he then dropped this girl who i am mates with in it by saying her name. He is now getting charged with burglary for whatever it is that got stolen! And she has got to go and speak to Hawaii 5-O on friday after work. He said she will prob get a caution, but surely she can just no comment it and let them try to prove she's done anything. which i shouldnt think they'll be able to as theres no cameras. Either no comment or just say the door was open, she was drunk wondered in went for a swim and then got thrown out by the bouncers from the club and thats all she knows.
Anyway let us know if you've got any advice. apart from get a solicitor that is!12
Legal advice please Just in case people dont see it all the way down in the law section...
http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=209449#post209449
Security check for jobs Just been offered a job today in warehouse for a company that makes those cards u put in sky boxes, but first they gotta do a security check to see I ain't been in trouble with the police (which I have) before I start, anyone know what this covers? Not sure if I'll pass coz have been given cautions / final warning for drugs twice, 2 X criminal damage & theft, but I've never been to court and given a conviction... Any ideas??12
UK : East : "Police in helicopter"…. had a look (and a listen) to this (the helicopter footage of last weekends(?) Police operation that has been released to the press)
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/storyrss.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=News&itemid=NOED18%20Feb%202008%2017%3A45%3A06%3A680
(in case Archant decide to make this link "disappear" it contains about 8 mins of infra-red camera footage from Oscar India 99, the Norfolk Constabulary helicopter)
the version I watched last night it also contains a fair bit of the radio commentary, I was suprised at how much of this was left in (I think some bits have been edited out, possibly personal details of PNC checks because of data protection)
then again I suppose they don't have to worry about people listening in with scanners any more (ahem :wink:)
Grooverider emprisoned for 4 years pretty bad news, he's been sent to jail for four years after being found with just over half an eigth of skunk, pretty fucked up punishment.
full story...... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3395661.ece12
IT : Italy introducing "CJA type law?" anyone here speak Italian?
http://network23.org.uk/node/492
this doesn't look good
I heard on the grapevine that Italytek created a bit of a backlash (landownwers complained it didn't finish at negotiated time or something like that) and that some people got in trouble (both European and British crews)
and it seems that some politicians are now calling for anti-rave legislation :hopeless:
Thames Valley Police, Over The Top? POLICE sent out five patrol cars, a helicopter and a dog to chase a yob who smashed a police car window.
Officers in Didcot saw a vandal smashing the rear window - estimated to be worth up to £100 - of a marked Vauxhall Corsa parked outside Didcot police station on Sunday evening and chased the suspect.
Last night, Thames Valley Police spokesman Kate Smith defended the number of officers and vehicles called in for the hour-long operation and said it would have been the same if it the vehicle belonged to a member of the public.
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Sometimes I do wonder about the police, it must have cost a fortune to catch this bloke. All for a £100 window, :you_crazy12
UK : East : Norfolk cops, landowners form "rave response" forum Interesting - note the cops trying to encourage people to get TENS licenses (does that mean they are going to actually give some out?)
And the fairly reasonable comments from the knight chap (I would have expected him to threaten to run the stack through with his lances and clatter a few ravers with a medieval mace TBH!) , although I'm unsure how he thinks ravers are going to be able to afford a solicitor..
22 May 2006 08:22
Police are planning a new initiative to tackle illegal raves in Norfolk.
They are aiming to bring together local authorities, the Forestry Commission, the National Trust and other interested parties to plan a response to unlicensed music events.
Raves regularly take place on farmers' or common land - this month alone large illegal gatherings involving hundreds of people have taken place at Cockley Cley, Saxthorpe and Thetford.
At the moment police judge their response on a case-by-case basis - ranging from a softly-softly approach to a more reactive response, as seen on New Year's Eve. Then, Fifers Lane in Norwich erupted in violence after officers moved in to break up a party.
Youngsters regularly complain that they cause no harm, keep away from crops and are happy to clean up after themselves.
They say that there is no violence at gatherings normally held in the middle of nowhere - unlike Norwich or the market towns where police are kept busy with aggressive youths.
But villagers close to sites say thumping bass lines are carried for miles around and the ground afterwards is covered in rubbish.
Sgt Russell Hickford, who has been charged with setting up the new Norfolk-wide rave prevention group, said it was important to strike a balance between a heavy-handed and too light an approach.
“We're setting up this group to enable effective management of these events in Norfolk,” he said. “There's been quite a few recently and they cause considerable disruption to those living nearby.
“It was felt that we should look at unlicensed music events and see what we can do to prevent them.”
Sgt Hickford said that, along with the local authorities, the NFU and owners of Norfolk's large estates would be invited on to the forum which he expects to hold its first meeting soon.
It will concentrate on intelligence-sharing arrange-ments, mutual support, event prevention, target-hardening and prosecution of organisers.
But he said he did not want to stop youngsters having fun. “Music events can take place quite legally. The organisers can apply for permission from councils for one-off events. We can't have a blanket policy because our response depends on what effect the event has on the community, how loud the music is.”
Sir Samuel Roberts, who owns the Cockley Cley estate which is a regular target for illegal parties, said yesterday that the key to solving the problem was compromise.
He said that about 400 ravers descended on forest land near Swaffham a week ago but treated him courteously when he came to find out what was going on and cleaned up every last scrap of litter. “I'm not pro-rave but I'm being realistic,” he added.
Sir Samuel suggested organisers hire a solicitor to deal with police, agreeing sites in advance so that partygoers would not have to act so clandestinely.
But other landowners are less keen on compromise. Clive Hay-Smith, who farms 1,200 acres near Sheringham, and had to postpone harvesting barley when 300 ravers invaded his land in August 2004. While they did clear most of their rubbish, they did not apologise to villagers for keeping them up for three nights of “booming” music.
UK : East : Ruckus in Court as drug dealers have cash confiscated During the first hearing Marcus Linton, Johnny Callie, Paul Minto, Martin Abdallah, Michael Blake and Clement Morgan were in the dock at the back of the court when one of the men threw a punch and others started shouting.
Guards were called and some of the men had to be restrained until calm was finally restored and judge David Goodin entered the courtroom.
http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/content/eveningstar/news/story.aspx?brand=ESTOnline&category=News&tBrand=ESTOnline&tCategory=News&itemid=IPED17%20Jan%202008%2010%3A00%3A22%3A953
What am I going to get? i was done for no insurance or tax earlier this year and got a nice 6 points, just got a new car as per this thread http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28133
so i know i'm gonna get done again, i'm not to sure what i'm going to get, can anyone help?12
Licensing A Bar For A Party? Hiya, quickly [about to leave work after 12 hour night shift!], my mate runs an off-license + thus is licensed to sell alcohol.question we've been pondering, is if the license applies to the individual rather than the premises, could he run a bar legally at a party?just wondered, as then there'd be one less reason to close down the party when the ob appeared...anyway, i'd be interested to hear from any knowledgable crew...night!will
Hessle Party: Police Brutality Just wondered if anyone else was there? I was and it was actually ridiculous!
This was 5th may by the way...
Quote:
Chief Refutes Brutality Claim over Street Party
A CLAIM of police brutality and over reaction in dealing with a disturbance involving 200 people in Leeds has been refuted by a senior officer.
One witness, who asked not to be named, told the Yorkshire Evening Post people were bitten by police dogs and others struck by batons as officers in riot gear dispersed a crowd in Hyde Park, Leeds, early on Saturday. He claimed there was no police request to disperse or warning.
The problem flared when a house party in Hessle Terrace, Hyde Park, Leeds, spilled out on to the streets.
But today Pudsey-Weetwood Divisional Commander, Chief Supt Howard Crowther said that drunken revellers ignored repeated requests to disperse, threw missiles at police and reinforcements were needed to quell the disorder.
He said no-one had been seriously injured, and three arrests were made for public order offences.
One man who arrived part-way through the incident said partygoers were pushed from Hessle Terrace into adjacent Brudenell Road.
He said that though "people were milling around" they were not aggressive.
He said that after police regrouped their ranks had parted to allow dog handlers through and he was bitten in the leg by one dog, a friend was pulled to the ground and bitten on the back of the knee and backside and a third man was bitten on the chest.
"At no point was any warning given to clear the house party or clear the streets. The police behaviour was an absolute disgrace. They charged at the really scared crowd and beat at them with batons,"
claimed the man.
But Chief Supt Crowther said: "We received calls in the early hours of Saturday morning from members of the public concerned about a party in the Hessle Terrace area of Hyde Park that had got out of hand. Initially, two officers were sent to the area and were faced with a group of between 200 and 300 people who were in drink and unwilling to listen to the officers' advice."
The situation deteriorated and it was necessary to deploy further resources to the area in order to disperse the crowd, said Chief Supt Crowther.
"The crowd was asked to disperse a number of times but refused. Missiles were thrown at officers, though no officers were injured."
"Key to any investigation into this will be why a party of this scale was permitted by the residential owners in this area."
He added police had not received any complaints about the way they handled the incident.
Last Updated: 09 May 2007 2:19 PM
Everything was going fine and everyone was being lovely and from what I can remember this all happened because of 1 guy throwing something at the one police car which initially turned up to check out the situation which is usual around Hyde Park and Headingley...
There reaction was, without warning and ridiculous... Police with dogs, riot screens and batons blocked of each end of the street so we were in effect trapped...
I myself only ended up with some bumps to the head after being pushed down the street but i know people who were quite seriously hurt and bitten by dogs...
The police succeeded in one thing...
There arent so many parties around the student areas of Leeds any more...
Let me know if anyone else heard of this or if any one else was there i would like to compare notes!
UK : East : 63 year old rave "organiser" gets ASBO Looks like the magic has run out for someone...
if he gets breached for this he will end up in the can (random fact: Norwich Prison has a special wing for OAPs!!!)
26 May 2007 08:59
A 63-year-old man was made the subject of an interim anti-social behaviour order (ASBO) by Yarmouth magistrates yesterday preventing him from either organising or participating in illegal raves.
The joint application against Christopher Farrow, of Hitchin, was made by North Norfolk District Council and Norfolk police.
The application came in the wake of a rave that took place at Horsey Gap, owned by the National Trust, over the weekend of May 5-7 involving about 1,000 people.
Hilary Nelson, portfolio holder for tourism and with responsibility for community safety for North Norfolk District Council said: “I hope that the decision by the magistrates will send a clear message to all those involved in such activities and make it very clear that they will not be tolerated.”
It comes as police in Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex urged local landowners to remain vigilant over the Bank Holiday weekend and report any attempts to enter property by people who may be intent on holding a rave. A full hearing will take place on June 5.
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UK : East : HM Revenue and Customs to investigate "earnings from illegal raves" Definitely looks like the end of Norfolk's "tolerance" of parties..
incidentally HMRC have a lower "burden of proof" for their investigations. The Police have only been around (in their present form) since 1823 or so.
HMRC were set up in 1066..
Minister backs police over rave riot
07 September 2007 05:52
Home secretary Jacqui Smith last night called for a "robust response" to mass public disorder like the Yarmouth riots - on the same day that ravers responsible for the violence were let off with fines by magistrates.
Ms Smith praised the "measured" reaction of Norfolk police to the rave-related trouble in Yarmouth last month. Speaking at a Westminster engagement, she rejected Tory leader David Cameron's claims that there was "anarchy in the UK" but said "we need to have a very robust response" to such incidents.
She also endorsed the response of Norfolk police authority chairman Stephen Bett who had earlier insisted "we are not tolerating this sort of behaviour at all, and we are going to meet it aggressively".
Meanwhile force insiders remain confident that further arrests will be made as they hunt the event's ringleaders.
Yesterday, five ravers who were part of the 100-strong mob which threw bottles, swore at police and made obscene gestures pleaded guilty to disorderly behaviour at Yarmouth Magistrates' Court.
But the group escaped with fines totalling less than £900, despite magistrate Angie Scott telling the court: "The town needs to be protected against this kind of behaviour - in fact the whole county needs to be protected."
Mr Bett said he could not comment on the sentences handed out but pledged that the police would be exploring all possible avenues to bring those responsible to account.
He added that details of those convicted and others suspected of involvement in raves would be passed to Inland Revenue to investigate their income from such illegal parties.
"I am pleased that the Home Office is taking notice of how Norfolk deals with crime and perhaps if it did so more often policing in this country would be much more effective," Mr Bett said.
"We will continue to do everything possible to stop this nonsense once and for all and are exploring all possible ways in which this can be done.
"One option is to collaborate more closely with the fire service and the health and safety executive because often, on occasions when police powers aren't sufficient to close down raves, they have other powers which can be used.
"But also we are looking at ways in which we can target those who run these raves such as passing their details to Inland Revenue and Customs and Exercise. This will be in addition to pursuing them through the courts and should hit them in the pockets.
"Everybody who comes into this county to organise these events will be photographed and will have their details circulated so that every course of action open to us can be taken."
At the time of the riots Mr Bett said the police operation had been handled brilliantly, and he congratulated the officers for disproving the rave organisers' belief that "mob intimidation was going to win the day".
Ms Smith also said that the government was continuing to keep an eye on the laws and procedures covering raves "to see if there is something more we need to do".
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If not, I'll tell a little bit about it. Barry Cooper is an ex-narcotics cop who was responsible for many big-time drug deal arrests in Texas, seizing I think millions worth of drugs. Anyhow, on his dvd, HE TELLS ALL. He spills it all about the strategies and methods that cops use. Get it, it's extremely interesting.
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