The police told to me to live with it I just tried to leave the house with the baby in our pram to take her to nursery and there's a removals van blocking my front door almost completely. So I asked them to move politely and told them I had a baby but they refused and turned their backs on me. Argh! So I called their company who told me they would ask them to move but they didn't. So I called the police who told me to live with it and I was being unreasonable for refusing to accept the movers' suggestion of leaving the house through the window. AAARGH! Now I'm angry...
:get_you:12
Innocent man to pay for jail time As i got in from work last night i say them mention this on the news:
BBC News wrote:
A 37-year-old man jailed for a crime he did not commit is being charged almost £7,000 for his time in prison.
Warren Blackwell from Woodford Halse, Northamptonshire, has been told the sum will be deducted from compensation to cover savings on rent and food. He spent three years in jail convicted of sexually assaulting a woman with a history of false claims against men. The Ministry of Justice said deductions were normal procedure and should not be called "bed and breakfast" costs.
An appeal hearing said Mr Warren's conviction was unsafe because the woman had made similar accusations in the past about other men. Mr Warren was told he would receive compensation minus £6,800, which has been assessed as the amount of money he had saved from normal expenses while in jail. He said: "I was flabbergasted when I was told. How can they justify charging innocent people when murderers live rent free?"
The Ministry of Justice said in a statement: "It's wrong to refer to the deductions as 'bed and breakfast' as they are made in respect of the costs an individual would have had to pay out of their net income on things such as a mortgage or rent. "The purpose of the compensation is to put an individual back into the financial position they would have been in but for the miscarriage of justice, but not to a better position."
Mr Blackwell said there was no chance of that happening in his case because his legal bills were huge. "My parents contributed tens of thousands of pounds and friends added to the fighting fund." The amount of Mr Blackwell's compensation is yet to be decided, although he said he thought it would be in the region of £100,000.
Ok fair enough the bloke might get a load of cash in compensation, but really they cant take this money off him. The poor bloke has had to spend 3 years of his life in prison and also have the tag of "rapist" put on him.
If they really want the money back that it cost them to hold him in prison, shouldn't they go after his accuser for this?
Also what is this about not naming her? They should name and shame her if she has a history of doing this as it is plain wrong and could really fuck with someones life :you_crazy
Crazy arsed bitch :hopeless:
On bail for drink driving:shy: . I really don't know what got into me, i am usually one of the most safest people. I had put a guy in my car that was hasseling the police, i was gonna drive up the track and park up so i could find the rest of my mates, but yeah not excusable really. I am claustraphobic and that was fucking horrible. Don't tell someone that has it in for you that you have a fear of needles, cause even when you past 2 of the three required tests, the machine is suddenly faulty and you'll get locked up for many more hours until a doctor is available to take your blood. :cry:
How Police Interrogation Works Writted from a US perspective but the psychological techniques used are bound to be pretty common throughout most modern police forces.
http://people.howstuffworks.com/police-interrogation.htm
There are "Law & Order" addicts everywhere who think they could get a perp to confess. A little glaring, some getting in the guy's face, a revelation that his fingerprints are all over the murder weapon and voilà! He's recounting his crime. In real life, police interrogation requires more than confidence and creativity (although those qualities do help) -- interrogators are highly trained in the psychological tactics of social influence.
Getting someone to confess to a crime is not a simple task, and the fact that detectives sometimes end up with confessions from the innocent testifies to their expertise in psychological manipulation. No two interrogations are alike, but most exploit certain weaknesses in human nature. These weaknesses typically rely on the stress that results when people experience contrasting extremes, like dominance and submission, control and dependence, and the maximization and minimization of consequences. Even the most hardened criminal can end up confessing if the interrogator can find the right combination of circumstances and techniques based on the suspect's personality and experiences. In the United States, scholars estimate that somewhere between 42 percent and 55 percent of suspects confess to a crime during interrogation.
Amsterdam to Heathrow customs Hey all, I'm heading to the Dam this weekend and could do with some info. If I were to bring a box of shrooms back over with me, nothing too much, what would customs do if they discovered it? Would they
a) slap me on the wrist and give me a fine
b) send me to a Bangkok prison to live off a diet of cockroaches and rice for 60 years... or something near equivalent
If the answer is 'b' people then fear not - I'll simply stuff them in the bag of the chick I'm flying with, mwahahaha....
Cheers for anything you can muster up!12
Drivers beware – "section 165" seizures I've been researching this increasing trend of the Police seizing vehicles at raves
Now rig vans can be seized as evidence they are viewed as "tools used to commit a crime" and this has been going on since the 90s, but reports from the forums imply that cops are seizing normal motor cars that people are using for their everyday transport...
Basically what has happened is a law has come in in 2005 permitting cops (usually a traffic unit) to confiscate any vehicle which is being driven without insurance or the driver having a valid license.
Although the bulk of party people now no longer drive illegally, those who do can easily be pulled up as the cops have better computers, comms and surveillance kit than back in the 90s (and even in the 90s traffic cops had some nice toys...)
Also cops routinely monitor cars being driven late at night by young people, particularly if they appear to be in groups (not even necessarilly a convoy).
There is a lot of CCTV on the roads in this country...and raves are associated with car crime anyway.
So if you get busted in a non-legal vehicle you and your mates could be stranded in the middle of nowhere.....
Cost of "smashy smashy" crew – civil recovery action against organisers…. This is something that happened to someone I know
If details are sketchy its because I want to protect the person involved (for reasons that will become apparent). They are part of a well known party crew in SE England who did a new years rave a few years ago in a building in that area.. it went on for two days and By that time the usual smashers and taggers had rinsed the building, graffed loads of things, done in a few windows..
lots of cops turned up on the second day when everyone was sketchy and tired out; arrested a few peeps and seized the rig.
most people got let off or just got cautions and the kit got given back -
but as some of you know when you get nicked you have to give your name and address (cops often check this as well to make sure you aren't blagging)
this person (who had claimed squatters' rights in the building to explain why they were there) had been thought of by cops to be "organiser". They didn't get any major criminal penalty - maybe a caution etc..
But what they did get, sent to their bail address was a solicitors letter itemising all the damage (about £40,000 worth) and a demand for payment of this amount. Cops had clearly passed their personal address info on to the solicitors acting for the building owners...
The letter said if payment was not made would be passed to a County Court to deal with and then the debt enforced by a Civil recovery agent (debt collector).
TBH its unlikely the court case would have succeeded and the person involved moved out of area and didn't have the assets to pay anyway - but they were still contacted several times by various "private detective" type places (who had even got access to their new addreses via their bank)
This action may stil be ongoing, certainly last year another demand was sent to this person despite them having moved several times..
Although this is the first time I've heard of this action being taken it already happens for shoplifters etc (I expect it was the building owners decision to make use of the info provided by cops) and if it can be done once will doubtless be done again...
does the Gvt e-petition site spy on users…?? Ok, like many others Ive signed an epetition on the gvt website.
I was a bit perturbed when the email I clicked to confirm my signature disappeared entirely from my inbox...
anyway knowing what this gvt is like Ive been paranoid ever since that they may have something on their site that would download itself to a harddrive - to allow them to continue to track a persons internet usage, if they should want.
Looking up this, ive found out a bit about web-bugs, and also that the Whitehouse has been illegally using them, - some of these bugs have a life of 35 YEARS on your computer.....they can track 3rd party internet usage, or look at the contents of a hard drive and report back to the bug owner, and if you are sent one in an emails, it can send your entire email folder back - For the USA they were tracking, for example, people who checked on the anti-drugs pages of the website.
DOes any1 know if the UK government is using stuff like this on their websites???
It does make you wonder why have this epetition thing anyway when they dont take any notice of what people say...so is it a case of "we know where you pesky protesters live" or "we know where you live, and we also know what you read on the internet" - - the article about the USA use of webbugs is below.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,16518,1675325,00.html
Legal help needed!! Right im in a bit of shit at the moment. Me an a few mates got caught in one of the abandoned blocks on our campus. We gained entry by rattling a window that was slightly off the catch. went in caused no damage but found an old room with stuff strewn across the floor. took a jacket an other items that we found on the floor for a laugh. then as we were leaving we were found by the warden and as it turns out the room we had found was being used for storage by him. So far the police said its in the hands of the uni. but im ure that the guy will want to press charges. any help on this issue would be good, cause it looks like im facing some form of charge.
NEW criminal justice bill http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6150428.stm
there's some stuff in here which seems fair enough, although my main criticism would be that the only solutions put forward by Bliar's 'respect' taskforce seems to be locking more people up, for longer; a strategy that has spectacularly failed throughout civilisations accross the world
there's also some more stuff:
The bill is expected to boost police powers to close anti-social premises, such as noisy pubs and clubs, within 48 hours and force youths to move away from public spaces.
anyone else read that as anti-rave?
Expanding the use of conditional cautions, which punish offenders on the spot for trivial behaviour without the need for expensive, wasteful court cases.
esentially giving you a criminal record of sorts without legal recourse
Procedures toughened for defendants failing to turn up at court without good reason. In some cases they could be tried in absentia.
I can see situations were this would be used against the traveller community (ie. failing to deliver court dates to defendants)
fucking fascist fuckers
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