Laws on music at home Bacically a mate has had a barn restored, got all the permission n all that bollox n its turned out quite nice.
Couple of weeks later he happened to get a set of decks and a couple of 4 feet tall speakers. Nothin too over the top.
Turns out space was a bit limited in his gaff n he put them inside the barn, with mates going for a little fuk about on them once a week n getting it all out in the garden for a BBQ once a month, (Keeping the volume to a minimum)!
Now it turns out 1 of the pricks down the road as contacted someone (APPARENTLY) n my mate has recieved a letter saying the barn may not be used as a music studio........
WHAT THE FUKING FUCK??????????
Who said anything about a studio???
At the end of the day the barn has been converted into a bedroom and people left right n center have decks in their room, with no trouble at all!
Any ideas what the score is with these laws???
London Critical Mass Clampdown? – Policing Policy ‘Under Review’ Hey.
At the last london critical mass bike ride, the cops handed out a letter that warned participants may be liable for prosecution and that "Police policy in facilitating these events is currently under review"...
Mostly the cops on bikes and motorbikes follow along with the critical mass cyclists, withvery little bother. Now it seems they may be preparing to start clamping down on the bike riders.
This year in new york - after yrs of pretty trouble free events - the cops have started arresting people etc etc - wonder if this will happen here?
God this country's getting fucking depressing. Anyway - here's the info on the next critical mass ride, where people are hoping there will be a strong turn out...
JOIN LONDON’S BIGGEST EVER CRITICAL MASS CYCLE RIDE
- FRIDAY OCT. 28TH
London CM meets at 6pm on the last Friday of each and every
month. The first 45 minutes or so is usually spent socialising and the ride has usually left the meet-up point by 7pm. On average the ride lasts about 2 hours but the time is flexible depending on who is there and what the weather is like. This meet up point is central, chilled out and great for pre-ride socialising/planning.
There are a couple of bars/cafes nearby for any cyclists looking for refreshments. The ride often flows around central London taking in major tourist attractions. There is no set route, and the direction we move in is spontaneously chosen as we cycle. Anyone is free to join or leave the ride while it is taking place. The ride usually ends somewhere pretty central, often a pub! People on any form of unpowered wheeled transport are also welcome (eg skates, skateboards, unicycles, wheelchairs, supermarket trolleys…).
SO WHY IS THIS CRITICAL MASS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST EVER?
On Sept 30th police (who usually facilitate the mass in an
unobtrusive way) handed out warning letters to cyclists
(reproduced overleaf) in an indefensible attack on freedom of
assembly/expression/transport, and the mass will go ahead bigger and more fun than ever in the face of this unprecedented attempt at repression.
Critical Mass in London has rolled on since 1994 without police threatening to use the POA to impose conditions. Why invoke it now when there's been no need up to now?
Why are they wasting time threatening innocent cyclists? Car
drivers flock together to block the roads on a daily basis
commuting to and from work. We don’t block the traffic – we ARE the traffic!!!
[url]http://www[/url]. criticalmasslondon.org.uk
COPY OF LETTER:
New Scotland Yard
CO11 Public Order Branch
London
SW11 OBG
Critical Mass Cycle Demonstrations
Organisers of public processions are required by law to notify police at least 6 days before the event occurs of the date, time, proposed route and the name and address of an organiser. Failure to do so makes the event unlawful
Demonstrations within a designated area around Parliament must also be notified, and anyone taking part in an unauthorised demonstration commits an offence.
Police can impose conditions on processions, demonstrations and other assemblies, and participants render themselves liable to arrest if they fail to comply with those conditions.
These cycle protests are not lawful because no organiser has provided police the with the necessary notification. Your participation in this event could render you liable to prosecution.
Police policy in facilitating these events is currently under review.
If you intend to organise a future similar event please refer to the Metropolitan Police website, www.met.police.uk for details. It is preferable for all parties if a lawful event can be safely facilitated, rather than the Police having to enforce legislation.
Superintendent Gomm
New Scotland Yard
SUGGESTED REPLY – PLEASE WRITE!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for your letter of the 29th in which you raised your concern that perhaps cyclists might be breaking the law by organising public processions. However, your concern is misplaced since the monthly community ride is not a procession or indeed a protest. Critical mass has no route and no organisers and doesn't aim to be a demonstration.
While new draconian laws now prohibit democracy around Parliament without prior notification this really has nothing to do with the monthly critical mass bike ride which is an ongoing event and nothing new - just like Brian Haw's constant vigil.
Police may like to impose conditions on critical mass and arrest participants not complying to such conditions. However, nobody involved in the ride is in a position to negotiate with the
police as the event is by nature, unorganised and without leaders.
These cycle rides are lawful even though no organiser has provided police the with the necessary notification and while participation may render one liable to wrongful arrest I am certain that we would be victorious in court and well compensated for any assault or unlawful detention resulting from such an action.
If you intend to review police policy in 'facilitating' these events please refer to the dozens of critical mass related websites. It is preferable for all parties to be aware of Human Rights Acts so that unlawful acts by the police can be avoided, rather than wasting court time on overturning bad legislation.
Pedal Pusher
Homepage: http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/
another anti-rave ASBO Another one:
http://www.aylesburytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=789&ArticleID=1561983
"The ASBO effectively bans him from organising and performing at illegal raves"
...blimey even 'performing' is covered, wonder what the actual wording is? can members of the public get this wording from somewhere?
btw the article on aylesburytoday is an exact copy of a thames valley police press release - easily found by looking on the press section of their website.
ASBO GIVEN TO PREVENT ILLEGAL RAVES IN OXFORDSHIRE
(TUESDAY, JUNE 13) A man has been given an ASBO preventing him from organising illegal raves in Oxfordshire. This follows the first ASBO of this kind in the country which was also in Oxfordshire earlier this year.
The two year order was imposed on 22-year-old James Christopher McKenzie of Long Hide, Princes Risborough at Didcot Magistrates' Court yesterday (12/6).
The ASBO effectively bans him from organising and performing at illegal raves which have blighted the peaceful Oxfordshire countryside for many residents.
Illegal raves had been organised on the Oxfordshire Ridgeway at West Ilsley off the A34 and at Watlington off Hill Road near the M40 in November last year. Police closed down the first rave and seized equipment at the second.
PC Jimmy May said: "Obtaining this ASBO is the result of a lot of hard work by police and their partner agencies. This is the second ASBO of this nature in Oxfordshire and is still only the second in the country.
"The first ASBO, earlier this year was also for rave organising in Oxfordshire and has been extremely successful. The man who was given the order has not breached his ASBO at all and tells us when he is taking part in legal and legitimate events.
"Communities have suffered long enough with illegal raves and securing this second ASBO makes it quite clear that we will not be soft targets for rave organisers.
"These events are often associated with trespass, drug use and criminal damage. They have caused major disruption and distress to landowners and local residents.
"It is not about spoiling anyone's fun. We want to protect those attending as well as support landowners and local residents. We fully support legal events in which all aspects of community safety have been considered."
Cllr Bob Johnston, who chairs the Vale of White Horse District Council's licensing committee, said: "We in the Vale welcome this decision and hope it deters anyone thinking of holding similar illegal events in the area."
UK : driving licenses being removed for non-driving offences? I've seen a few press releases from various UK Police forces where they are alleging that because of new legislation they can not only confiscate vehicles (police reform act 2003?) but disqualify someone from driving for a non-motoring offence.
Apparently this legislation is being used against hare coursers, the travelling criminals who rob old people but there are threats to use this against ravers as well... anyone else heard about this?
I'm sure this is completely incompatible with human rights laws...
if people are being cruel to animals or robbing other people there are existing laws to deal with this.
If the offence is serious enough they should go to prison in the first place; which will keep them off the road far more permanently (after all many people ignore driving bans anyway)
As a cyclist I'm completely against bad and dangerous driving but there are plenty of traffic laws in this country.
But surely a driving license is a qualification you have gained by showing your skills that you are competent to be in charge of a potentially dangerous motor vehicle; not a test of your morality (other than being prepared to share resources such as road space?)
Its also completely disproportionate if used against ravers; as it would deny them the use of a car for legitimate purposes such as work, college or job-hunting?
To me this seems tantamount to revoking someones GCSE's because they got caught shoplifting or revoking a degree because someone protested against a political issue (happens in some other countries; which is why otherwise highly qualified refugees/immigrants do menial jobs here)
What would you do? Newbie here. Hello everyone! Hope it's ok to ask a question as a first post.
Does anyone have experience of applying for Temporary Event Notices? I'm putting on a party this summer for around 400 people, in sussex. In some ways it's a private party (not advertised, list of names, security, landowner's permission). In some other ways (at least two rigs running through the night, munted people) it's a 'free' party/mini festival. The site is in a valley some way from the nearest neighbours - we'd pass any noisemeter reading. We'd be starting on Saturday lunchtime and running through to Sunday evening. We did the same thing last year and invited the police to come and have a look - they didn't, and we carried right on through without any hassle at all.
My question is: is it now better to apply for a TEN and risk lots of conditions, drawing undue attention to what we're up to, possibly getting it turned down... or just going ahead regardless and wishing we'd got a licence when they turn up and shut us down. My concern is that the situation has changed since last year and they will be feeling the need to make an example of someone one way or another!
Apologies for the long post. What do you think?
Help needed guys!!! Right, im aving an 18th bday bash in my local memorial hall. But theres gonna be a 4.5Kw system so basically what i need to know is wat sort of noise levels can i go up to before i am liable to get sued etc. and are there any specific times for the party to end? Any help would be much appreciated:bigsmile:
Does lighting a fire constitute "aggrevated" trespass? According to what I can see on the CJA, Aggrevated Trespass is where you are stopping somone going about their lawful business. Doesn't mention damage to anything on there but I'm sure I've read about it somewhere.
Anyone shed any light on the whole trespass/agg trespass thing?
The OB used it as a way to get a party closed down at the weekend, sec 68. Threatened the rig owners with taking the rig (which I know they cannot do just under trespass...)
(am now taking a printed copy of the latest CJA along to parties so when they come out with some obscure section I can check it out, rather than relying on my (poor) memory!)
UK : LDN (S) : Fridge license conditions (taken from uk.music.rave) names of Djs and MCs being submitted to Scotland Yard for pre-event police checks - WTF next?
Quote:
> Trist?n White wrote:
>> Just wondering what the Fridge is like now since that raid?
>>
> [snip]
>>
>> Polysexual has Jace from Pendragon days playing, so am quite tempted.
>
> Don't blame you, always had a lot of time for Jace's sets.
Not seen him in ages but his sets were rather good.
>
>> But has the mood in the place changed at all since the raid? Is it less
>> fluffy inside as a result? just wondering.....
>
> I've got no direct experience, but the conditions under which the
> license was, erm, unrevoked are in the minutes of the council
> licensing committee which might give you a flavour of what to expect
> ...
>
>
see below for lambeth council minutes
The bit where they're required to fill in an F696 form before any event
with details of the promoters, DJs, MCs etc. and hand it in to the
policeso the police can run checks on them; followed by a F696a to be
filled in after every event; is interesting. The police state really is
doing well in Lambeth.
>
> To be honest though, the Fridge was usually quite heavily policed (with
> a small p) in the "good old days" and it was the attitude of the crowd
> that made it what it was. There's no reason that can't still be the
> case now, whatever the conditions.
>
It was about the most heavily "policed" venue I've ever been to back
around the turn off the century. Like you say it was the crowd you went
for.
Private party’s?? How do you do it? Anyone know the legalities of having a 'private party'? Alcholhol, charging on the door? what to show the ob when they show up? any info appreciated...
UK : East : Usual pressrel from Suffolk cops (extract) This is an extract from the latest presss release they have put up on their website (link not provided for obvious reasons!)
The first part mentions that 2 people were arrested at Coney Weston and some kit seized.
After that theres the usual "advice to nimbys" that will no doubt be in the Archant local papers soon.
what may be new is the addition about vehicles being seized (not sure if I've seen this before). Last year quite a few of my friends had vehicles seized at raves but this was in SE England!
I get the impression that cops (and CPS lawyers) countrywide are sharing ideas on what they can get away with...
Quote:
Chief Superintendent David McDonnell commented:
“As was seen over this most recent weekend, raves can be very difficult to stop when in full swing, so early notification of a rave taking place is critical in helping us police these events.”
“Ultimately public safety is the primary concern for us. Where officers can prevent, disrupt or stop a rave taking place, we will do everything within our powers to do this, providing that it is in the best interests of all concerned, given the specific circumstances that we are faced with.”
Police have powers, which enable them to seize vehicles and sound equipment in certain circumstances. As such they are urging anyone who rents sound or lighting equipment to only do so to people who they believe to have a valid and legal reason. Seized equipment will be retained as evidence for any prosecution.
ASBO used to prevent raves Watching BBC Central news last night.....
TVP have brought a civil action against a DJ, following six months of case building, preventing him organising or taking part in any illegal raves. He had to "accept" the ASBO, but if he breaks it in the next two years, he can go to jail for up to 5 years.
New tactics, the first time it has been used, and the TVP rep seemed well chuffed with himself. He also stated that they are prepared to use these preventative measures along with other, more traditional policing methods to continue the clampdown against these "threats to the local community".
What d'ya think GL?:rant:
UK : East : TENS confusion leaves bumpkins without beer! Read recently that there was some sort of traditional agricultural show in Bury St Edmunds - a regular event...(the South Suffolk Show)
This year they used the TENS system for licensing; but were late in submitting the application (somehow thought the council office staffwere going to work weekends :surprised!)
Apparently in previous years the organiser would have just had a chat with the local magistrate but this sort of old style nepotism is no longer permitted with the new laws..
So anyway (presumably) the cops let them put on the event - but minus beer tent! It did seem a bit of a shame to me as there is plenty of good real ale in this area - OTOH its another case of middle englands laws coming back to bit them in the arse.
These laws were brought in precisely because areas like Suffolk had people who moaned and lobbied councillors/politicians to "rein in the late night economy as its keeps us awake..."
Unfortunately it does seem though people simply accept the law even if they moan a bit (although I can't see the plod being able to bust an agricultural show, got visions of them being chased off by a prize bull, a pack of dogs from Alsatians to small terriers, and pitchfork-waving farmers/yokels ;) )
Fridge busted 200 police to arrest 11 people
seems a bit heavy handed
wonder how much it cost?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4913328.stm
Eleven arrests in club drugs raid
Eleven people were arrested by police during a raid on alleged drug dealing at a south London nightclub.
About 200 officers were involved in an operation at The Fridge club in Brixton, targeting class A drugs.
Police said the raid followed a two-month intelligence operation focusing on the alleged supply of cocaine, amphetamines and ecstasy.
On Saturday a 29-year-old man was arrested in Harrow, north London, on suspicion of supplying class A drugs.
Police said they believed him to be a "main dealer in the vicinity of the club".
Four men and two women were arrested on suspicion of possession with intent to supply Class A substances.
Another five people were arrested on suspicion of possession of Class A substances. They all remained in custody and were being questioned during the day.
wonder if having an extra 200 bodies in the building meant that fire restrictions were being broken?
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