NL/BE : Don’t sell your baby! taking the concept of "liberal free trade across the EU" a bit too far here.. does prove that children are valued more in mainland Europe, thats a fair sum for a baby... (they are usually €200 - €1500)
De biologische ouders van een baby die werd verkocht aan een Nederlands echtpaar, krijgen een jaar voorwaardelijke celstraf. Ook moeten ze het jongetje 7500 euro betalen, precies het bedrag dat ze voor de baby kregen. Daarnaast krijgen ze een geldboete van 550 euro. Dat heeft de rechtbank in Gent bepaald. De Belgische vader en moeder van baby J. verkochten hun kind in 2008 aan een Nederlands paar uit Sibculo (Overijssel). De rechtbank vindt dat "de commerciële handel in kinderen simpelweg niet getolereerd kan worden".
De rechtbank vindt de behandeling van het kind onterend, omdat het in de toekomst waarschijnlijk het ware verhaal over zijn afkomst zal horen. De oma van J., die volgens de rechtbank op de hoogte was van de verkoop, kreeg acht maanden voorwaardelijk en een boete van 275 euro.
De jongen werd op 7 juli 2008 aangegeven bij de burgerlijke stand in Sibculo. Het kind was vier dagen eerder geboren in een ziekenhuis in Gent en op een parkeerplaats overgedragen aan de wensouders. De afgesproken prijs van 7500 euro werd in termijnen betaald.
De wensouders van J. zijn vorig jaar al bestraft. Ze werden door de rechtbank in Zwolle veroordeeld tot acht maanden voorwaardelijk, een werkstraf van 240 uur en een voorwaardelijke boete van 1000 euro.
Het jongetje is inmiddels bijna 4 jaar en verblijft in een pleeggezin.
the biological parents of a baby that was sold to a Dutch couple, got 1 year suspended sentence. also they must pay €7500 to the boy (in a trust fund?) precisely the revenue amount they received for the baby.
They must as well pay a fine of €550. That was the judgement of the Court in Gent (Belgium).
The Belgian father and mother of Baby J sold their child in 2008 to a Dutch couple in Sibulco (Overijssel). The Court judged that "the commercial dealing in children simply cannot be tolerated".
The court considered the treatment of the child degrading, because in the future he might hear the true story of his origin. The grandma of Baby J, that the Court found out was aware of the sale, also got 8 months suspended sentence and a fine of €275.
The boy was on 07/07/2008 registered at Sibulco registry office. The child was born 4 days earlier in a Gent hospital and handed over in a parking lot to the prospective parents. The agreed price of €7500 was paid in instalments
The prospective parents were also punished last year. The Court in Zwolle handed down a suspended sentence of 8 months prison, 240 hours of community sevice and a suspended fine of €1000.
The boy is almost 4 years old and now resides in a foster home.
NOS Nieuws - Straf ouders voor verkopen baby J.
NL : Dat mag dus niet (you must not do it) tweets van diverse misdaden en kattekwaad / tweets of various crimes and mischief
https://twitter.com/datmagdusniet
een selectie / a selection :
U parkeert uw auto lekker sociaal voor andere collega's, mag dat?
(very bad parking, even I can do better than that in a clear open space)
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AlMrMfnCQAArB0Y.jpg:large[/img]
Met je winkelwagentje een glazen deur mollen in de Albert Heijn. Dat mag dus niet.
(even worse driving of the shopping trolley, straight through a glass door!)
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ak4wV45CEAIDvn6.jpg:large[/img]
and a joyrider...
Jongen van 14 pakt de auto van z'n buurvrouw en rijdt met 100 km/u door Den Haag. Dat mag dus niet.
(boy of 14 nicks his neighbours car and drives at 100km/h (80mph) through Den Haag)
even an older man who blew up his flat after a rent dispute!, dat mag echt niet!
http://nos.nl/artikel/341677-boze-bewoner-blaast-woning-op.html
Steam-Valve Trying to force me to agree to new terms Okay, I use steam for some of my games I play, mainly Garry's mod physics playground. Now because the European high court have ruled that digital copies of games CAN now be sold (as all things that you purchase you have the right to sell). So now steam are trying to work their way around it by getting me to agree t these new terms saying that all of my steam content is now licened to me by steam US not steam UK. They also clarify that I do not own the software but merely own the licence to use the software. If I do not agree to these terms in 19 more days, my steam account will be closed and all my content that I have paid for will be lost forever. Oh and I cannot access any of my games until I agree to this legally binding contract. I'm effectivly locked out from steam. I know allot of you will be shocked to see that I have actually been buying computer games. But since demonoid went down, I have noticed how full of crap torrents pirate bay is. So I decided to go back to steam.
This has made a good few people angry and are being met with a class action lawsuit reguarding this. I mean I'm not gonna take them to court of 20 to 30 quid but I do feel like steam are taking the piss out of us. I'll show you the contract and post a news report on it too.
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Be interesting to see how this fairs out.
UK : SW : Wannabe witch/pirate busted after ferry theft and prang.. At least she didn't try that here, it would really have been nasty, there is bulk hazardous chemicals being unloaded at Ipswich docks on a regular basis..:yakk:
A woman who shouted "I'm Jack Sparrow" at police as she stole a ferry was lucky she was not injured, the owners of the vessel said.
Alison Whelan referred to the movie pirate character as she took the Dart Princess on the River Dart in Devon.
She was jailed after being found guilty by magistrates in Torquay of aggravated vehicle taking last September.
Paignton Pleasure Cruises said that, had the vessel managed to float out to sea, "it could have been serious".
The court heard Whelan, who was sentenced to 112 days in prison, was high on a cocktail of drink and drugs when she stole the ferry.
BBC News - Kingswear's Dart Princess ferry thief 'Jack Sparrow' jailed
UK : East : The only way is violence.. In the last month two chaps have been murdered at house parties in affluent bits of Essex (there are a fair few) - first one was a very well respected designer about my age who had done a lot of sucessful projects in London and Essex, and was beaten to death at a house party by his so-called "mates" (a man whose done well in life in Essex / East London). One of the accused was himself a successful businessman in a family business and because of this just about scraped bail (60 people are dependent on his business).
The second (this weekend) was at a similar house party in the posh bit of Colchester but for a younger age group, where liberal parents with a big house had permitted a large teenagers' party to occur, but some of the attendees had fought and a 17 year old lad was stabbed to death
I was gonna post about the first incident shortly after it happened but didn't want to make it look like it was linked to V festival (though it happened on the same weekend), as it wouldnt' be fair to link the two..
WTF is happening here? I know East Anglia is cuturally closer to North Europe and there are many stubborn opinionated people what won't back down from a fight, but killing people over a pointless argument (especially when even if you kill your enemy you will fuck up your future) seems completely harebrained. Also there seems to be less of this in similar nations across the North Sea (whose crime news I can also read..)12
UK : W: Clarinet stealing crackhead floored by chilli.. and they say folk in EA are wierd :crazy_diz
A Bristol shoplifter got a shock lesson in the awesome power of the Scotch Bonnet after ill-advisedly deciding to scoff a handful of the napalm peppers he'd swiped from a store, before attempting to leg it from the scene.
Marcus Banwell, 39, barely got outside Singh Stores in the St Paul's district of the city, because "within a matter of seconds" of swallowing his booty, he was "doubled over, coughing and being sick", as his local paper put it.
Coppers quickly slapped the cuffs on the hapless and disabled thief, who was found to be carrying another four peppers, "crack cocaine and a small amount of heroin", plus a clarinet he'd pinched from another shop.
Red hot chilli peppers floor Bristol shoplifter ? The Register
Church bell ringers ANTISOCIAL BASTEDS I know I have been moaning about noise recently and I knw being a fan of free partys its a bit hypocritical, but we don't blast music through peoples windows at night so we. So as some of you know I live a stones throw from a church that rings out its bells on regular occasions, wedding sunday service which are fine by me I got no problems with those. But what I don have a problem with is the tuesday nights bell ringing session that goes on for nearly 2 hours sometimes from about 7.30 to 9.00/9.15. If I had a kid they would Shirley (lol) be in bet at this time and believe me its FUCKING LOUD. I have put up with this for like nearly 5 years now and am truly sick of it.I don;t care about them ringing them its the time of night that they do it. I looked into it beofre but I could only find that its becoming an increacing complaint of noise polution these days. But no one has the power to stop them, but on the flip side they don't really have the right to ring them either so its a bit of a funny one to be frank. I have tought of a few revenge plans but noting really viable a an effective plan to silence the bells at antisocial hours. One thing i was thinking of was to follow the ringers hoe and blast tecno through their windows for a good hour at night, or maybe wait for their sunday service and blast the church revellers as they go to church, but its not really their fault so thats a no no too. Of course there is the legal side of things but looking into it it seems that there is nothing I can do. Apparantly there are bell dampeners that reduce the noise of the bells that they could fit but I don't really see them doing that.
I'm seriousl about tring to do someting about this cos it's really pissing me off guys. anyone who can help advise me on this will be rewarded with good vibes. I'm kinda hoping that GL se's this thread too cos he's pretty brainy on the who legal side of things too, but i'm also sure the PV collective must have some good advice too.
Heres a little something something I found, its a little dated but was amended in 2007 so i'm sure its pretty legit still
BATH AND WELLS DIOCESAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHURCH BELLS AND THE LAW: GUIDANCE NOTES FOR CLERGY AND
WARDENS
INTRODUCTION
Bells are associated with churches of most traditions the whole world round. The
tradition of bellringing in England is distinctive through the evolution of change
ringing, and the sound of bells in city and countryside is a long-standing and
familiar part of the environment. The summon to worship; they ring out in
celebration and in sadness.
And an undersong to branches dripping into pools and wells
Out of multitudes of elm trees over leagues of hills and dells
Was the mathematic pattern of a plain course on the bells
John Betjeman, Bristol
With the increasing concern about noise pollution, there have been occasions when
complaints about bellringing have been made, very occasionally even spectacularly.
The purpose of these Guidance Notes is to offer advice to incumbents,
churchwardens, PCCs and bellringers about maintaining the campanological
element in our way of life through sensible management. There is a brief outline of
the law and custom which applies to the ringing of church bells. There are also
some suggestions about dealing with complaints and whom to contact for help.
In this way, bells can continue to be seen as an enrichment of the quality of our life.
SECTION 1: THE LEGAL BACKGROUND
Ecclesiastical law
Canon F8 of the Church of England states that:
“1. In every church and chapel there shall be provided at least one bell to ring the
people to divine service
2. No bell in any church or chapel shall be rung contrary to the direction of the
minister”.
Control of the ringing of church bells belongs jointly to the incumbent and the
churchwardens.
Common law
There does not appear to be any legal right as such to ring bells in the community. It
seems to be a matter of custom.
http://www.bathandwells.org.uk/assets/downloads/diocesan%20registry-and-dac/church-bells-and-the-law.pdf
UK : SE : Rogue Trader reporter gets 12 weeks prison for benefit fraud Not sure why it is in the Suffolk news, though he might well end up in Holiday Bay - though not worth escaping for such a small stretch.
I think the sentence is just due to the job he did, bringing other criminals to judgement clearly means he should not commit crime himself, especially defrauding a public sector organisation when you work for one.... WTF did he think he was doing, it doesn't even seem like he was on drugs or anything like that...
FFS if the meedja doesn't provide a secure job, and £56k is way more than I earn in a similar period - then get another one what does, I learned that in my 20s. I do think its also unfair that judges seem to be able to order someone from PL to return to their country if they commit crime, yet can't do the same for PT, rules should be the same for everyone in the EU. It would do him good though as Portgual is big and it is easy to hide away there and thus start a new life. Plenty of folk needing good honest work done on farms etc down there..
BBC Rogue Traders presenter Dan Penteado was today jailed for 12 weeks for council tax and housing benefit fraud worth more than £24,000.
The 40-year-old, who chases down bogus workmen with Matt Allwright on the television show, had previously admitted eight offences of dishonestly or knowingly claiming the benefits while not declaring he earned more than £56,000 from the BBC.
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/uk_bbc_rogue_trader_presenter_jailed_for_24_000_fraud_1_1449187
UK : SE : Worral Thompson cautioned for shoplifting from Tescos! This was from earlier in the year, I'm surprised I missed it as this is an area I know well.
Its not uncommon for older men facing midlife crisis to do this or even far worse things - a caution is an appropriate penalty for a non violent crime and he is seeking treatment for mental health issues, but it is also in the public interest to report this (though very unusual for a caution to be mentioned in the press) due to his public image plus being a prominent businessman in SE England (but also involved in a numebr of business failures which affect others ) who has also given support to the Conservative party and still raises money for them.
TV chef Antony Worrall Thompson said he has "let down" his family after being cautioned by police for shoplifting and said he will "seek treatment".
Police arrested the 60-year-old at the Tesco store in Reading Road, Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire, on Friday.
Worrall Thompson, from High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire, was questioned and given a formal caution.
He apologised for his "stupid and irresponsible actions" and said he hoped he could "make amends".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-16465934
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Worrall_Thompson
UK : East : from fish to drugs – rum old boy busted … No flephedrone amongst the flounders though :laugh_at:
A former Norwich fishmonger, who was found to have a stash of drugs including cocaine and heroin with a street value of £12,500, has been jailed for more than five and a half years.
Former Norwich fishmonger jailed for drugs offences - News - Norwich Evening News
Owning Speakers, and Working with Vulnerable Adults Im looking at buying some bass bins to go with a few other bits and pieces some mates have got together, but for my job i work with vulnerable adults. currently i have a completely clean CRB check, apart from 3 points on my driving license.
can i get in trouble for owning the speakers? if so, what and how?
i know that i can get in trouble for taking them out for little shindigs and such, but to what extent, and what could i do to stop this, or is there a loop hole, or some strategy we can use to evade mr plod?
and info would be useful, cheers :)
UK : LDN(E) : Its my party, and I’ll shoot if I want to.. I thought the Sugar Lounge was in Loughton?
Glad I didn't make a big thing about my 40th. I don't have any guns, nor do my friends (best pointing this out clearly as my estate has links with the capital, I've seen armed cops here at least twice- and a chap near around the same age got a 7am wakeup from armed feds simply for "hanging about with the wrong people") but all it takes is one muppet to fuck up your special occasion. I'd have had to get a license for it and all your info goes on public record - I know personal stuff about folk I haven't met simply because they applied for events licenses (and I don't even use farcebook).
A gangster ordered two men shot dead after they ruined his 30th birthday party, a court heard last Wednesday.
Nana Oppong, now 31, from Stratford, handed Michael Smith a handgun moments before he gunned down two men outside an east London nightclub.
Mr Smith, 28, was then chased through the street before being shot repeatedly by one of the victims’ friends in a revenge attack – but miraculously survived.
Patrick Ford, 36, died at the scene within minutes of being shot in the heart, while 27-year-old Eugene Brown survived a gunshot wound to the head for six weeks before dying in hospital.
Revellers had earlier fled the party after Brown, who was also armed, suddenly pulled a pistol from his waistband and fired four shots at the ceiling.
Oppong, who was celebrating his 30th birthday, later dumped gunman Smith on the doorstep of a nearby hospital before having his hired BMW X6 valeted to destroy forensic evidence, the Old Bailey heard.
The pair had been “partners in crime” during the chaotic scenes in the early hours of May 29, 2010, said prosecutor William Boyce QC.
They had moved on with a group of revellers to the Sugar Lounge club in Forest Gate after earlier spending the night at Chocolate City in nearby East Ham.
As well as the BMW, Oppong had hired a black Range Rover and yellow Lamborghini for the “lavish” event.
“A lot of people had guns on them,” said Mr Boyce.
“Obviously, Mr Brown broke up Mr Oppong’s party.
“Mr Brown, with a high degree of being casual, then just saunters out of the club.
“This has effectively ruined Mr Oppong’s party.’
CCTV footage showed Oppong acting as “director of operations” as a group of men huddle around him, the court heard.
The three shootings that followed were all caught on camera, jurors were told.
The grainy images from the Sugar Lounge are said to show Oppong handing a weapon to Smith, before both men head outside.
Two shot dead in Forest Gate for
Have you given up on UK law? Just seeing how people feel on the subject. Not posting any experiences I may have had, in the unlikely event that skews the poll.
Tottenham riots last night I'd not even heard about the guy that was shot on thus - so have very little back ground info,
the link is to the riots in pictures - looks awful
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apparently a peaceful demonstration to the police station to ask for answers, was hijacked and turned to violence allegedly after the police assaulted a female, but again I'm not totally sure, bus set on fire, carpet shop set on fire, 26 police injured etc12…78
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