++ IMPORTANT – POLICE TRY TO BAN DEMONSTRATION ++[bristolstopwar] Please send replies/correspondence to: bristolstopwar@hotmail.com
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Please read this even if you can’t come to the demonstration on Monday 8th
October
BRING ALL THE TROOPS HOME NOW!
Coaches leave Bristol 9.30am, Anchor Road. Tickets £14 waged, £7 unwaged.
For tickets either email bristolstopwar@hotmail.com or phone 07748982569
If you aren’t able to come on 8th October but want to show your support by
making a donation towards the cost of the coaches please make out a cheque to
‘Bristol Stop The War Coalition’ and post it to BSTWC, 23 Monmouth Road,
Bristol, BS7 8LF.
For further information, email bristolstopwar@hotmail.com
++ IMPORTANT – POLICE TRY TO BAN DEMONSTRATION ++
On Monday 8 October the Stop the War Coalition will be marching from Trafalgar
Square to Parliament calling for all troops in Iraq to be brought home now.
After a series of relatively co-operative meetings, the police now say they
have been instructed not to allow the march to take place and that all
demonstrations are banned within a mile of Parliament whilst in session under
legislation dating from 1839.
This is a new development which threatens our democratic rights. When Gordon
Brown became prime minister he promised to liberalise the laws on protest,
saying that one of his principles would be, "civil liberties safeguarded and
enhanced". Government ministers, including Gordon Brown, have lined up to
support the right to protest in Burma. It is important that these same
ministers also defend the rights of people in this country to protest
peacefully.
We are determined to march to make our views known to parliament on 8 October,
when Gordon Brown will make his long awaited statement on Iraq. We urge
everyone who opposes the war policies of our government to join the call for
all British troops to come
home immediately and to help defend our civil liberties now under attack. We
have produced a petition calling on the authorities to review the decision to
ban the march. Yesterday Tony Benn, president of the Stop The War Coalition,
delivered a letter to the Home Secretary confirming that the demonstration
would be going ahead and calling for the police to back down. Details of this
letter can be seen at: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
SIGN THE PETITION ONLINE aimed at defending our right to protest peacefully.
You can do this here: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
DOWNLOAD AND PRINT THE PETITION Collect as many signatures as you can and send
filled petition sheets to Stop the War Coalition, 27 Britannia Street, WC1X 9JP
Download for printing here: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
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REGULAR BRISTOL EVENTS
THE DAILY BRISTOL PEACE VIGIL:
MON-FRI 5:30-6:30pm & SAT 3:00-4:00pm. PLACE: City Centre (Opposite Hippodrome. St. Augustines Parade). If you can only make it for 15 minutes, or a couple of times a month, please still come. Everyone's welcome.
EASTON PEACE VIGIL: Every Friday. 5:00pm-6:00pm.
Corner of Robertson Rd & Stapleton Rd.
THE BRISTOL-STOP-THE-WAR PLANNING GROUP:
Bristol Stop The War Coalition currently meets twice a month – a widely publicised discussion meeting on the first Thursday of the month and a planning meeting on the third Thursday of the month. The venue for the planning meeting is Unite/TGWU Offices, Transport House, Victoria Street, BRISTOL, BS1 6AY. 7:00pm to around 8.30pm. Everyone's welcome. Bring your ideas and have your say.
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Secrets and lies Democracy Now covers Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to Columbia university and relations between the US, Isreal and Iran:
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2007/sept/video/dnB20070925a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=24:49
http://www.democracynow.org/index.shtml
UK : East : Govt has £500,000 to give away to Norfolk youth groups Just saw this on the local news site..
As some of you are just about within the target age range here might be worth taking a look - Of course they probably wouldn't pay you to put on hall parties but maybe you could get some money for an arts/music project or a skate park..
anyway its better this money gets spent on the youth as if it doesn't get used HM Treasury claw it back and it will probably get spent on more surveillance or the war instead..
Quote:
30 September 2007 15:31
A seven-figure pot of cash has been dipped into to fund more than 500 projects set up by young people around Norfolk.
But more teenagers need to come forward with schemes - or else £500,000 willl go back to the government unspent.
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED30%20Sep%202007%2015%3A31%3A17%3A250
http://www.norfolkblurb.co.uk/cms.php?pageid=837
John Pilger’s Breaking the Silence: Truth and Lies in the War on Terror [yt]1aQE64G6-8g[/yt]
I enjoyed watching this last night. It's a few years old and didn't really say anything I hadn't heard before but it's good watch and says a lot that isn't said nearly enough...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389817/
John Pilger's home page: http://www.johnpilger.com/
John Pilger: Freedom Next Time [yt]AJcxj_Kvu7A[/yt]
Gives a talk based around his upcoming book on democracy, the corporate media, the war on terror and other topics...
The Guardian's review: http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1788937,00.html
And his home page: http://www.johnpilger.com/
Student Tasered for Asking Awkward Question (US) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=657_1190085332
A student in the US getting Tasered by cops after asking John Kerry an awkward question. He might have been being a bit pushy but they tasered him after he was cuffed.
I don't know if they have a similar version of question time over there but I would imagine people must get tasered on a regular basis at something like that.
Dicks.12
UK : LDN : A *legal* Critical Mass ride! fair play to whoever sorted this out, whether its Red Ken or the cycling campaigners!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7009034.stm
nationalism on the rise? i've noticed this since 2001, basically, and it pisses me off. people my age and older are gettin more and more nationalist, hate of other nations, racist, tension, but its mostly fuelled by ignorance. however there are more people with intelligence and knowledge who argue for nationalism and imperialism than those with intelligence who fight for socialism/peace/liberalism etc.
it's frustratin, the general opinions of people my age is nothin short of a subtle bnp/national front
it pisses me off. a lot. fuck fascism.12
UK : Even the Blue Peter cat poll was fixed WTF is going on?
OK its not earth shattering importance but I think it shows complete contempt for all the kids who rung in (posibbly on premium rate phone lines) and they will grow up having no faith whatsoever in Auntie (and possibly not being so willing to fork out money for license fee when they become old enough to pay for it)
Its a crap choice anyway, there's already a famous cat called Socks (former US president Bill Clinton's cat)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7005053.stm
magpie was way better anyway (showing my age though).
the cat looks it would be a good pet for the BBC boss (like a james bond villains pet)
DE : Why don’t we see stuff like this in Britain? From Telekom's press releases.
Quote:
Deutsche Telekom welcomes 4,000 new trainees
Sep 03, 2007
On September 1, 4,000 young people will start their vocational training with Deutsche Telekom. The 4,000 trainees were chosen from around 44,500 applicants. This once again makes Deutsche Telekom the largest training company in Germany this year.
Since privatization in 1996, a total of around 41,100 young people (as of mid-2007) have trained with Deutsche Telekom. Its range of courses allows Deutsche Telekom to make an enormous contribution to maintain Germany’s position as a center of business long term.
The new staff will be training in seven commercial vocations, four IT tracks and, at 39 vocational training centers across Germany, as electronics technicians for building and infrastructure installations. Furthermore, Deutsche Telekom is offering nationwide the dual study option of Bachelor of Arts in Business Administration and Bachelor of Engineering in Telecommunications.
OTOH I never hear of Openreach (BT engineering) or any of the large IT companies in Britain having such an intake, especially not of what appears to be 16-18 year age group without degrees.
And then we moan there is a skill shortage and too many foreign workers having to be brought in :you_crazy
the local rag again! :you_crazy
there's a 4-page thread with about 60 toddlers/young kids pictures on, and the purpose is so people can text/ring and vote for the one they like the look of best, and then they ar named the area's "cutest superkid"
anyone else think this is a bit... wrong? or odd at least.
EU gives up on ‘metric Britain’
http://news.bbc.co.uk wrote:
The European Union is set to confirm it has abandoned what became one of its most unpopular policies among many people in Britain.
It is proposing to allow the UK to continue using pounds, miles and pints as units of measurement indefinitely. The European Commission will announce later it is leaving all future decisions to the British government. The decision is being seen as a victory for supporters of the ancient imperial system, the so-called "metric martyrs".
Pint saved
The UK had been due to set a date for phasing out all its imperial measurements within three years. This would have meant setting a deadline for ending the traditional delivery of pints of milk - and the sale of pints of beer in Britain's pubs.
Every one of Britain's road signs would have had to be changed from miles to kilometres - a move which opponents warned would be both expensive and confusing. But it was the move, begun in 2000, to make Britain's market traders sell their produce in kilograms rather than pounds and ounces which caused outrage among traditionalists.
Sunderland grocer Steve Thorburn inspired the "metric martyr" movement with his defiance of the order to abandon the imperial measurements. In 2001, his scales were confiscated and he earned a criminal conviction for selling a pound of bananas from his market stall.
He died unexpectedly from a heart attack three years ago, and while the campaign he founded failed to win traders the right to ignore metric weights altogether, it has brought some results.
The traders will continue to be allowed to show both metric and imperial prices for their goods.
'No problem'
Under the plans which have now been scrapped, even displaying the price of fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces would have become grounds for a criminal prosecution. The decision to back down was made by Industry Commissioner Guenter Verheugen.
His role includes trying to improve the EU's reputation in member states - and in an interview with the BBC, he admitted the EU had been making itself unpopular on an issue that didn't really matter. "I organised a huge consultation, and the result was that industry told us there was no problem with the existing system.
"I want to bring to an end a bitter, bitter battle that has lasted for decades and which in my view is completely pointless. We're bringing this battle to an end."
'Extremely misleading'
However, campaigners on both sides of the debate have played down the significance of the announcement.
John Gardner, director of the pro-imperial British Weights and Measures Association, said: "I've seen the European Commission statement and what they're saying is it will be allowed to use imperial measurements as additional information. "We think that the European Commission statement is extremely misleading.
"From our point of view the situation hasn't changed and the campaign goes on. "If a trader tries to conduct his business in just imperial measurements that will be illegal."
'Business as usual'
The UK Metric Association said the statement does not mean that traders can go back to weighing and pricing in imperial measures, and it will be "business as usual".
Chairman Robin Paice said: "While we regret this proposal to prolong the current muddle of metric and imperial units, it will only delay but not stop the inevitable move toward all-metric shopping. "Many of the big supermarkets have already stopped giving obsolete imperial prices, and we expect this trend to continue. There is no question of going backwards."
Britain first mooted plans to convert to an all-metric system in 1965. That led to generations of schoolchildren being promised that they would be the last ones who would have to learn two different systems.
Wow, the EU have actually let us just get on with something!
9/11 Loose Change 2nd Edition A must see...
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"Loose Change 2nd Edition" is the follow-up to the most provocative 9/11 documentary on the market today. This film shows direct connection between the attacks of September 11, 2001 and the United States government. Evidence is derived from news footage, scientific fact, and most important, Americans who suffered through that tragic day.
http://www.loosechange911.com/
Overview
Loose Change is a documentary by Dylan Avery (director and narrator), Korey Rowe (producer) and Jason Bermas (webmaster and graphic designer), released through their company, Louder Than Words.
The documentary presents a rebuttal to the official version of events during the September 11, 2001 attacks and the 9/11 Commission Report. It alleges that the attacks were not the result of terrorism but a series of cleverly executed events carried out by the US government.
Released as two separate editions, the documentary has been the focus of much debate with many websites and individuals challenging the validity of claims made by it. Avery is currently developing a script for a feature film version titled Loose Change: The Movie, scheduled for release in 2006.
History
The idea for the project was coined by Avery in May 2002 after a conversation with actor James Gandolfini in which Gandolfini told Avery "If you want to be a successful director, you have to have something to say to the world". [1] Avery began writing a story in which he and his friends discover that the events of September 11, 2001 were not the result of terrorist attacks but rather, orchestrated by the US government.
Financial backing for the project came in April 2005 from producers such as Phil Jayhan of letsroll911.org [2]. Avery released the first edition of Loose Change with an initial press of 1,000 DVDs. Rowe, a former soldier who served in Afghanistan and Iraq joined the project in June 2005. Bermas also joined the team and together they released an updated second edition in November 2005.
The documentary is available for purchase and distribution through its official website [3]. It can also be viewed online and downloaded through Google Video.
The documentary has been released in two editions. The first was released in April 2005 with the second released in November 2005. The second edition is a remake of the original with added footage and information.
Content
Timeline
Includes background information of a plan put forward in the days of the Cuban Missile Crisis then outlines significant events leading up to September 11, 2001.
Pentagon
Alleges that based on the evidence, or lack of, American Airlines Flight 77 could not have possibly crashed into the Pentagon and that damage sustained to the building may have been caused by a cruise missile or a smaller military aircraft.
World Trade Center
Suggests that the actual collapses of the World Trade Centers 1, 2 and 7 were not triggered by the plane crashes but by a series of explosions within the buildings that were detonated shortly before each building collapsed.
Flight 93
Suggests that United Airlines Flight 93 did not crash in rural Shanksville, Pennsylvania but actually landed safely at Cleveland Hopkins Airport where it was evacuated by government personnel into an unused NASA research center.
Oddities
Asserts that the technology to make cellular phone calls from airplanes was not invented until 2004.
Suggests that cell phone calls from passengers and crew were faked by the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico using sophisticated voice-morphing technology and that the December 13, 2001 video of Osama Bin Laden admitting guilt was also faked.
Asserts that of the list of hijackers initially released by the government, many were not in the planes and are still alive today.
Cui Bono
Outlines possible motives for the attacks.
Factual inaccuracies
The film states that New York's Empire State Building was hit by a B-52 in 1945. It was actually a B-25 Mitchell, an aircraft less than one-third the size of a B-52. The authors have since apologized and acknowledged this error.
Dylan Avery claims that the motors belonging to the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, made of steel and titanium alloys, could not have melted, because the burning temperature of kerosene in even a pure oxyen environment is below the melting point of titanium. Critics contend the melting point of titanium is irrelevant since the motors involve steel-titanium alloy rather than pure titanium, although Ti alloys melt at temperatures (1668 C)[1] significantly closer to titanium (1725 C) than to steel (1500 C).
The movie cites a study in which cell phone calls could not be made at 32,000 ft, it is assumed flight 93 was flying that high. In fact it was much lower on radar.
The movie cites Loizeaux, a demolition expert, and suggests he thinks the building was blown up with bombs and not from jet fuel, the movie does not continue to quote Loizeaux from the same article on the screen and mention he thinks it was from "jet fuel." The jet fuel would have caused molten steel to fall to the bottom of the elevator shafts from the heat of burning fuel by melting the steel building, the movie suggests that it is somehow a factor in blowing up the building.
The movie focuses on the Pentagon not being significantly damaged, but earlier mentions in the film itself that the building was protected specifically and structurally from this kind of attack. It makes sense then that the building would act like a bunker, not like a typical building when hit by a plane.
The film suggests that a plane hitting just a light pole would crash. It suggests a Gulfstream II headed to Houston crashed because it hit a light pole, in fact the Gulfstream II jet crashed and a TV reporter noted it had clipped a light pole before crashing, the film suggests the pole ripped the wing off. The film states 5 light posts were knocked over Flight 77, in fact light poles are designed to detach from few simple bolts, on impact from car crashes to save lives. The effect of hitting a light post by a plane's wing would not cause it to crash.
The official website contains a statement saying not to take anything the documentary says at face value and encourages viewers to personally research information on 9/11 and to form their own opinions.
Criticisms
Loose Change has been criticized as disinformation even by some within the 9/11 Truth Movement, which disagrees with many aspects of the official version of events on 9/11/01 [2]. A primary concern of many in the movement is the promotion by documentaries such as Loose Change and In Plane Site, that a commercial jet did not hit the Pentagon [3], [4], [5], [6].
Critics of the documentary's proposal that a cruise missile or a small aircraft may have been the cause of damage to the Pentagon, cite the nearly 100 documented accounts from witnesses on the scene[7] who reported seeing a large airliner. Some witnesses specifically noted seeing a 757, while only two witnesses, located some distance from the scene, reported seeing a small plane. Loose Change, however, implies that an equal number of witnesses reported different aircraft as reported a commercial jet, and does not mention the large body of witness reports in support of a commercial jet. Critics of the missile theory note that not a single witness at the scene has ever reported seeing a missile[8].
Many do not support the suggestion put forth (weasel words) by Loose Change that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland instead of crashing or being shot down in Pennsylvania, and that passengers were subsequently secretly evacuated to an empty NASA research center. The 9/11 Truth Movement reference needed note that there is virtually no evidence to support this claim weasel words and that many witnesses at the time reported seeing and hearing the plane at the crash site.[9], [10].
Wikipedia was used as a source for some information from the documentary. It has been argued that since Wikipedia can be publicly and anonymously edited, the producers of the documentary could have edited articles to suit their own purposes. None of the Wikipedia-based information has yet been verified as correct or incorrect.
The film carries many of the features of a Conspiracy Theory. Most notably, it appeals to common sense, letting the spectator draw some of the conclusions himself to make its claims more convincing. Regarding for example the events at the Pentagon, Dylan Avery shows a piece of the plane's fuselage on the lawn, and says: "And why is not singed, or scratched, after a 530 mph impact, and the subsequent fireball?", without trying to explain why it should be. He also claims that another part found on the site could not have come from a 757: "Let's look a little closer at the defuser case of a 757. Do you see the triangular bezels around the openings ? Those are nowhere to be found on the case found at the Pentagon". Rather than relying on an expert, it puts the spectator in the expert's seat.12
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