Arsonists strike at illegal rave Monday, 3 December, 2001, 15:08 GMT
Police in Manchester are appealing for witnesses after an arson attack on a warehouse being used for an illegal rave.
The ravers were enjoying an-night event on the ground floor of Hanover Mills, Ardwick, Manchester, when a fire broke out on the sixth floor just after 0530 GMT on Sunday.
Officers from Greater Manchester Police had been made aware of the rave at 0300 GMT, but chose to allow it to continue to avoid the risk of public disorder.
Most party-goers had left the former textile mill safely by the time crews from Greater Manchester Fire Service arrived.
Evidence of arson
The fire had spread from the sixth floor to the floors above and below.
More than 100 firefighters attended.
There were no serious casualties.
A spokesman for Greater Manchester police said: "You are damned if you do and damned if you don't in these situations.
"We were made aware of an illegal rave at around 0300 GMT and our officers went to assess the situation.
"They assessed it as a low risk and formed the opinion that it would be wiser to let it go ahead rather than risk public disorder if they tried to break it up."
Detectives said on Monday they had found evidence that a number of fires had been deliberately started on different floors of the building.
Kicked out of our hometown…and county! The pigs will love reding this here, its their recent press release in surrey. they are right, worst of all. a couple of our mates rigs got nicked and we ran like bitches. check the history behind it at.
http://partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1928
anyway, we are in brighton area now, better to partyu another day, we recon. Here's the pigs version:
New tactics introduced by Surrey Police to stop raves before they start
have been a big success this summer.
In the spring the force announced a series of pre-emptive tactics designed
to prevent raves from being organized and to move on any illegal outdoor
parties at an early stage.
These included advanced warnings to the owners of vehicles spotted at
gatherings that were broken up last year warning them that if they are
planning to organize or attend an illegal party this year they face arrest
and prosecution; and letters to those suspected of being the organizers of
raves on previous occasions telling them Surrey Police would ask for
Anti-Social Behaviour Orders to be granted against them by the courts if
they are connected with any further activity.
Divisional Commander for East Surrey Chief Superintendent Rob Price said:
"Residents in East Surrey made it clear that they objected to the
disturbance caused by raves and wanted us to take strong action. We came up
with a robust strategy to stop these gatherings from happening and did a
lot of work with our partners in the community to make sure there were
clear lines of communication so that we could step in early if it looked
like an illegal party was being set up.
"I am delighted to say that the result of this is that the only two raves
that attempted to set up on East Surrey were closed down very quickly and
we have had no major problems. I hope this will reassure local people that
Surrey Police is committed to hitting hardest the crimes that matter most
to the people who live here.We are determined to crack down on anti-social
behaviour in any form."
Surrey Police identified dedicated resources and specially briefed officers
patrolled the county in 4x4 vehicles checking potential rave sites or
reports of suspected rave activity. Members of the public were asked to
report every incident that may lead them to suspect that a rave is being
planned or in progress so that all reports could be promptly and
efficiently investigated. Landowners were briefed on the preparations and
were being encouraged to make their land as inaccessible as possible for
these sort of activities.
The Borough Inspector for the Mole Valley Insp Colin Green said:
"In previous years the Mole Valley has had a particular problem with the
issue of raves. The only two attempts in East Surrey to set up an illegal
outdoor party were in the Mole Valley, and both were thwarted by police as
a result of information given by local people.
"The word seems to have spread that it is not worth the bother of trying to
have a rave in Surrey because we clamp down hard on any of that kind of
activity. We believe that we have displaced the phenomenon to other areas
which don't have the same kind of tough policies that we do. My message to
them is not to come back, because we will be cracking down just as hard
next year.
and here is my response to the local rag (big up john williams who emailed me askin for my opinion)
We find it ludicrous that while the police and council are worried and confused that none of the local youth hang around surrey and generally stay in their uni town, the powers that be persist in shutting down any part of youth culture not linked with alcohol. Especially as the alcohol culture provides most of the actual disturbances and violent incidents in dorking, alienating the old from the young, and adding to the segregated community vibe of the area. The attitudes of the police has destroyed one of the main / only artistic / creative / social forums in the area which had a cohesively positive effect on the youth culture. Unfortunately your paper was partly responsible (along with the Muppet who torched that house in Coldharbour) for the police’s escalated intolerance of our events, by laying the gauntlet down back in 2002.
One of the prime indicators of the police's counterproductive policies is the anti graffiti campaign. Am I the only one who saw very little vandalism and graffiti before the police provoked the local youth into rebelling against their new rules? I doubt it. Mr Frieze (try and catch me) and his crew have been activated by the police, along with other graffiti writers in the area, by bringing the art form to the forefront of public consciousness.
The current government has made numerous speeches on the subject of the “great untapped resource” that is our creative youth, yet in one of the richest areas in the country, where the youth have access to artistic materials and technologies, this very precious section of society is oppressed and discouraged. We understand the arguments against our parties in terms of health and safety, policing etc, but surely it would be more productive to funnel some of our councils abundant funding into encouraging these creative elements of the community to integrate to mainstream society instead of criminalising them? I was never optimistic about our chances of survival in our area, but some more naïve people have been shocked by the police’s actions and have been turned against the police and lost faith in the criminal justice system.
If the police would like dorking to stay as it is, in a perpetual state of stagnation, then we salute them for their sterling work. If, on the other hand, the police are trying t make Dorking a safer place, then alienating the youth community, one area at a time, and turning reasonable people into frustrated, antiestablishment, threats to society does not seem like the most effective route to take.
Dorking could be a hive of artistic expression at the forefront of the countries creative scene, populated in part by young people happy and proud to be its residents, proud to enhance the visual state of the town. This will never happen until the council and police start viewing the youth as a valuable asset and not a dangerous threat to their way of life. We are waiting to be activated and integrated, what is there to lose?12
NATIVE BEATS REVIEW 2nd FEB!!!!!!!! The Native Beats crew went off with a bang last Wednesday night, completely mashing up the Ocean rooms in Brighton with a full on party vibe. A hardcore mix of midweek party-goers turned up and a great night was had by all.
Entering the Ocean rooms past the friendly ticket staff, at eleven o’clock, the upstairs room pumped out a welcoming array of hip hop beats. Venturing downstairs, the newly refurbished main room was already pumping out some heavy old-skool jungle tracks. DJ Morgue was first behind the decks spinning some dark and dirty drum and bass tunes, the next two DJs; DJ Zeal and Criminal Element moved into more lively jump-around jungle territory playing some old classics that had the small but enthusiastic crowd heaving.
The upstairs room steadily played out the hip hop beats keeping everyone moving until the drum and bass band, Epoc arrived to treat the crowd to some live music from the stage. It took a while for the band to set up but it was definitely worth the wait. The female vocalist had an amazing voice which flowed along with the fast paced beats being played. The crowd were lapping it up, and it was a refreshing change to see some live music at a drum and bass night.
During the band’s set the jungle was still rollin’ in the downstairs room, but coming to an end as the headline act, Ratpack arrived behind the decks.
Before long the room was packed with eager faces awaiting Ratpack's finishing set. They whipped the crowd into a frenzy playing all the old-skool and ratpack classics. The mc even commented on the fact that even though the place wasn’t packed the crowd were more than making up for it with enthusiasm. There was a really good vibe during this set as everyone sang along to the tunes and danced along in good old-fashioned ‘flail your arms and legs about’ style. The one hour set flew past and was packed full of old-skool raving anthems. A very sweaty, tired but contented crowd poured out the club at 2am. Nice one native beats!! :D
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lawrie immersion…munt on! Went to a Munt party on 6 Nov, Lawrie Immersion was on and played the most blinding set ever. Heard his Squat Rock for the first time this summer and was most impressed. It's a fantastic piece of music. Most of the music he played at the munt was his own work I'm sure, it all sounded amazing.
He's on again on 18 Dec, and I cant wait.
Link to Northern party review from SJ for all the northerners asking about parties in Manchester and surrounding areas, you may like this review
http://www.squatjuice.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=muddy;action=display;num=1086564622
wrong weekends on the wridgeway…(summer party reviews) a sort of end of season party review type thing, some details may be a bit jumbled, I am after all writing this from memory over 6 months of parties!
Despite Thames Valley Police attempting a "zero tolerance" policy on unlicensed raves on the Ridgeway (a large track in Southern England which is apparetly the "first ancient highway" or something like that), our local crews still managed many parties this summer season...
At our first multi-rigger, 30+ TVP officers in full TSG formation (riot squad) turned up; only to realise they were heavily outnumbered and retreat shortly afterwards and leave everyone to carry on...
All the usual suspects turned up at one of more of these places :
phantom/void, storm/surge, somatek, project mayhem, tunnel crew, underdog, and appearances from london rigs including PaniK and TOM/TOL - apologies if I've forgotten any others!
This summer a new crew has been about in the Thames Valley; the "wrong" rig (wrig?) - randomonkey (who joined the infamous band of thames valley ravers) late last year purchased a motor van and a genset; along with Pip, those from phantom/void who didn't go to Europe this year and the remainder of the sokaid kit he set up a chill out rig / bar described as a "more sick and twisted Itsy Bitsy".., (this comment may have been after we let Bird play on the rig with her infamous 80s selection) - if you haven't heard this come along to one of the thames valley parties :D
my enduring memory of this is the first outing which started off in
Basingstoke and relocated to cholsey downs; where I ended up dancing with a young lady from the area to Birds 80s selection (at one point couldn't help feeling that I was in a school disco again!) - people were having a brilliant time in the summer heat (it was one of the few decent summer weekends!) and even the cops were friendly (one seemed to particularly like the 80s stuff).
Some of the girls even put on a k-heads gymnastics display(!) - and were joined by Discopete, who was turning cartwheels on the grass (for those who don't know him he is a chap in his mid-thirties and of fairly stout build, who you wouldn't normally associate with athletic activities ;) )
there were other episodes of wrongess too - this time in hampshire for a moot.
originally this was planned for the ridgeway, but as we arrived we heard the unmistakeable sound of a Eurocopter EC135 (their tail propellers are supposed to be quieter, but sound like a big extractor fan) overhead, bawling out the Section 63 "please leave the area" message through the "skyshout" loudspeakers as the same cops from last time politely suggested "you lot have partied the ridgeway nearly every weekend; why don't you go into another county this time?!) - so we did!
The party relocated to Beacon Hill in Hampshire - a convoy as far as the eye could see and 9-10 rigs in total, with thw wrong crew tucked away in the forest... much fun was had by all throughout the night and into Sunday morning.
On sunday afternoon the cops turned up and apparently seized kit of one crew who left early; there was a minor scare when some peopel thought the site was being stormed by police horses; but it turned out to be civillians pony-trekking; who had feared our rigs would scare their nags, and asked the bobbies to escort them...
Further down the path, other cops had set up no less than 3 levels of checkpoints, plus a mobile canteen and a comms vehicle - and were making it quite clear they wanted this party to wind down by sunday afternoon "or else" (and there was plenty of "else" about to deal with it!)
But despite running the gauntlet of all this lot (from friendly bobbies, to less friendly bobbies and the TSG who had come specially from portsmouth) most people seemed to get back OK (although no doubt the old bill got plenty of info for their computers) - there may even have been some firemen there which was strange - AFAIK nothing was on fire...
the crews planned another ridgeway party but found the place was blocked off big time with earth mounds etc; looks like the councils finally had enuff..
And so ended the summer season in our area - some good parties, I had a brilliant time this summer (and even managed to ride my bike to the ones which were near my city); a few "hairy" moments with cops spreading paranoia (TBH they were actually quite lenient though!) and party people fighting amongst themselves on site (why?) but still a good summer despite the sometimes iffy weather..
a summer to look back on with fondess as the autumn winds start to blow - and the attention is turned to the disused urban buildings ;)
GL/Reading/September 2004
Police defend handling of illegal rave http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED30%20Aug%202004%2016%3A50%3A43%3A840
30 August 2004 16:50
The scene of the rave at Weybourne.
Norfolk police defended the way they dealt with an illegal rave on private land which attracted hundreds of young partygoers.
And a senior officer said lessons learnt from the latest in a string of similar outdoor events could feed into future policy for dealing with such incidents.
The rave, held on the idyllic North Norfolk clifftop near Weybourne, led to damage to gates, fields and the cliff edge. From the site, adjacent to the Norfolk Coast Path, it was possible to see ex-Prime Minister John Major's house, approximately a mile away on the hillside.
The irate farmer, whose land was crossed by hundreds of vehicles over the weekend, said the incident had already cost him money in repairs and possible loss of value of his crops, because he has been unable to harvest.
Similar parties have been held in the last few weeks across Norfolk, including at Brancaster beach, Thetford Forest and Sandringham. All have attracted police attention and local anger.
The police have been criticised by landowners for the way they have responded to the events, but Supt Vaughan Mullender said officers had to respond in a “proportionate and pragmatic way”.
He said it was important to ensure public safety and to minimise disruption and damage.
“We see what lessons can be learned and we learn from each of these incidents,” said Supt Mullender.
“We have to take that proportionate approach when dealing with these things and look at all the surrounding circumstances.”
Supt Mullender also said it was conceivable that the lessons learnt could eventually lead to a change of policy.
He said officers reacted “very positively” to the Weybourne rave, which police officially described as a 'party'.
“We are happy with the way it was dealt with,” said Supt Mullender.
Jim Wilson, chairman of Norfolk Police Authority, said the issue was an operational matter and it was not in the remit of the authority to comment.
But he added that such incidents were generally cases of management.
“Wherever possible the police manage these things in a way to try and ameliorate the disturbance.”
Mr Wilson said breaking up a party once scores or hundreds of people were there would take an “awful lot” of manpower.
Up to 800 people were understood to have been at the Weybourne rave at its height. The event started on Saturday morning and was continuing Monday night.
John Perry-Warnes, county council representative on the police authority, said he was very sorry that the landowner had experienced “considerable inconvenience right in the middle of harvesting and cultivating”.
He added that the rave had been “thoroughly well planned” and that the organisers had “in a way outmanoeuvred us”.
Farmer Clive Hay-Smith, who farms 1200 acres, felt better policing of the rave in its very early stages could have prevented it going ahead.
“I do think they should have been jumped on earlier. The first group was fairly small, it wasn't as if all these people turned up at once.”
Mr Hay-Smith said some of the behaviour he had seen defied belief, explaining that he had seen a father in a Mercedes dropping his daughter off at the party and one of the ravers asking him what he was doing there – even though he was on his own land.
He was also angry that he had been unable to harvest a neighbouring field of barley over the weekend, which could now lose quality and therefore value in the coming days.
“We were lined up to cut it on Saturday, but for health and safety reasons we decided we just could not.
“I was worried there could have been someone out of it and asleep in the field and they wouldn't hear the machinery coming.
“To be honest the whole thing is a mess, I can't tell you how angry I have been – and all in a year when the harvest has been hard enough as it is.”
However Mr Hay-Smith was determined to cut the remainder of his crop, about 100 acres, in the coming days.
Over the weekend, bemused walkers were greeted with a rag-tag gathering of tents, cars, vans, music systems, a stack of giant speakers and empty cans strewn on the ground as they made their way along the well-trodden coast path.
Generally pleasant and polite, those attending the rave were mainly young, aged either in their teens or 20s.
There was a certain amount of tidying being done on Monday afternoon, but there were still plenty of cans, bottles, cigarette butts and other rubbish lying across a large area.
The group who appeared to have organised the rave declined to comment, but one raver, who identified himself simply as Will, said: “We're just having fun, there's no houses that close by. What's the problem?
reclaim the streets Was anyone involved with 'reclaim the streets' in the mid 90s? I was too young, but i watched some video about it and it looked interesting. Any1 know if its still goin? Also, what do people on here think about the SWP's and George Galloway's 'RESPECT' coalition. Anyone think it has a chance of becoming popular? I think it's a bit rubish, Galloway ain't exactly a man of the people, he said himself that he couldn't live of 3 workers wages. And as for democracy in the group, it's a typical swp affair. Anyways, don't wanna get into a rant so i'll end it there.
Peace, Love and Unity. Riddim Unit.
Thousands attend illegal rave Thousands attend illegal rave
24/08/2004
http://www.hackersons.com/databass/site/news/local/articleshow.asp?articleID=2011&categoryID=99
Thousands of people have attended an illegal rave on agricultural land in Herefordshire over the Welsh border.
Residents living in the hamlets of Upper Ivington and Hyde Ash claimed around 10,000 people were in the area, although police estimated that 3,000 people have gathered there.
Dyfed-Powys Police said there was an increased movement of traffic over the border in the direction of Leominster.
One person was taken to hospital suffering from the affects of drugs or alcohol.
'No sleep'
Christine Rosearsh's house in Hyde Ash is near to where the rave is taking place.
She told BBC News Online: "It started on Saturday afternoon.
"I was out in my garden and could hear bits of music and vehicles and it gradually increased throughout the night. It was a nightmare.
"I didn't get any sleep."
Mrs Rosearsh said she first phoned the police about 2200 BST on Saturday to complain and made two further calls - the last at 0415 BST - only to be told the police were "monitoring" the situation. She added: "When I looked out my window I was scared because I could see all these people everywhere.
"They were opening the gates to fields to get through and leaving them open. The cows were getting out.
"When I phoned the police, they said they were aware of the rave and that it was unauthorised but could not do anything about it at that time.
"We live right in the middle of the countryside and the lanes around my house are very narrow and they're all being blocked."
Anyone know wot happened at The Sanctuary? (on sat24th) Anyone know what happened last saturday 24th july with the party that squatted The Sanctuary in Milton Keynes?
I heard they had it for one hour before the cops turned up and put a stop to it - any more details? I'd love to know :-)
Desert Storm and Missile parties. Hi all, just wondering if anyone on here went to the Desert Storm free aprty in Leeds last weekend, or the Missile party in Manchester the week before. Speedcore, breakcore and french core all the way at Desert Storm (with old school, and hip hop rigs turning up as well), an rigs putting out drum n bass, hardcore, techno and psy-trance at Missile.
A good time was had by all. S S. System A HUGE thankyou to all the people who attended the Subtronic Party on Saturday 5th June.
The response i got from people on the night was imense, the rig sounded wicked the music was banging was a top night all round.
maximum respect to the guys and girls that helped put it all together
takes time and patience to put on a party and saturday proved we can do it so hats off all a'ya..!!
The dj's, well what can i say. top tunes all night - wicked
Charlie'C top man cool set nice one
Zapper Exclusive 2hr set . nice one . (owe you)
Cybes, Billie the kid. Resident subtronic crue........
Thankyou all
We return in august
L&b
S.s. system
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