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September 28, 2012 at 1:29 am

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last time I did that stuff I got this bad nosebleed and frightened some hippies who thought I had been in a fight with someone.

I might have told them “nah, I only got in a fight with myself – which I lost” – this seemed to unnerve them even more :laugh_at:
September 28, 2012 at 1:36 am

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@General Lighting 497481 wrote:

last time I did that stuff I got this bad nosebleed and frightened some hippies who thought I had been in a fight with someone.

I might have told them “nah, I only got in a fight with myself – which I lost” – this seemed to unnerve them even more :laugh_at:

Did you snort 2C?

I really do recommend not doing this to anyone who hasn’t done it before. It really is fucking horrifically painful.

I’ve snorted all kinds of horrible shit and the tiniest bit of 2C i would say no to over like a load of salt… it’s really that bad.
September 28, 2012 at 1:40 am

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yep – I still remember how harsh that stuff is to snort and it was nearly a decade ago!
September 28, 2012 at 1:44 am

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The stuff to me feels horribly toxic :S they make me feel sick to the stomach, make my nose burn for ages in severe pain etc…

Tryptamines feel like nothing on the nose.

From my personal experiences I’d say do not bother with 2C it’s just like doing MDMA with funky colours and shit yet you can get a bit psy’d out and feel very uncomfortable.

Some people do love it though and have told me of their great ventures but personally I’d say stay away. Very synthetic feeling and extremely boring samey visuals IMO.
September 28, 2012 at 11:41 am

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But doing a 2C up the nose is THE best way in my books. Gets you there 10x faster and you know its hit you once you feel that burn. Those 25C caps where very nice though. Microgram dosage mixed with some filler. Break open the cap at sniff it.

Mine tasted like raspberry when it went up the first time :laugh_at: and the best bit is, it doesnt sting AND it was one of the best 2C experiences ive had, bat a few 2C-E and 2C-P trips (2C-P at a theme park was a great idea I tell you now). Visually and body-feeling wise. Had a great, floaty, euphoric feelin’ on the 25C. Its not as deep as other trips and I can’t compare it to 25I.
September 28, 2012 at 11:48 am

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@p0ly 497480 wrote:

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Whoever wrote that is mental.

Do not take DPT with other powerful hallucinogens unless you wanna fuck yourself up! I had a friend who lost it on DPT + DMT and his life is now fucked (he did a ridiculously heroic dose though for the record).

DPT is extremely powerful and serious trip, not your fun giggles and stuff more deep dark even scary experience for some. I think it’s amazing but I would only take it for deep deep personal growth sessions.

Shit, im going to have to do some reading. It does sound interesting though.

I’ve heard of people dying from snorting 2C-T-7 but never from a normal dose of other 2c-x’s. I was going to try 20mg of 2C-E oral soon, if its any better or even the same as snorting it, i probably wont bother again. Oral 2c-b never seems to hit me however, i’ve taken up to 35mg and felt only mild stimulation but 20mg up the nose will have me seeing all kinds of colors 😀

I agree with it being painful tho, I would rank B as being the most painful, followed by I with E giving almost no pain compared to the other 2 (still quite a sting.) I can put up with the pain and think its worth it for the lower dose needed.
September 28, 2012 at 11:49 am

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@Sychonaut 497501 wrote:

But doing a 2C up the nose is THE best way in my books. Gets you there 10x faster and you know its hit you once you feel that burn. Those 25C caps where very nice though. Microgram dosage mixed with some filler. Break open the cap at sniff it.

Mine tasted like raspberry when it went up the first time :laugh_at: and the best bit is, it doesnt sting AND it was one of the best 2C experiences ive had, bat a few 2C-E and 2C-P trips (2C-P at a theme park was a great idea I tell you now). Visually and body-feeling wise. Had a great, floaty, euphoric feelin’ on the 25C. Its not as deep as other trips and I can’t compare it to 25I.

I swear those caps had no flavor. You trippin man :crazy:

You must try 1200ug. Complete insanity 😀
September 28, 2012 at 2:56 pm

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@eye. 497502 wrote:

Shit, im going to have to do some reading. It does sound interesting though.

I’ve heard of people dying from snorting 2C-T-7 but never from a normal dose of other 2c-x’s. I was going to try 20mg of 2C-E oral soon, if its any better or even the same as snorting it, i probably wont bother again. Oral 2c-b never seems to hit me however, i’ve taken up to 35mg and felt only mild stimulation but 20mg up the nose will have me seeing all kinds of colors 😀

I agree with it being painful tho, I would rank B as being the most painful, followed by I with E giving almost no pain compared to the other 2 (still quite a sting.) I can put up with the pain and think its worth it for the lower dose needed.

I used the 1mg a min technique for t-7 and it worked out.

did 15mg in one go of 2c-i and it was the shittest trip ever with the worst nasal pain ever. 60mg sublingually / orally produced a fucking insane exp though…

i snorted 2c-b once but that was after 3 super potent tabs of acid, 20mg 4-aco-dmt up the nose, 20mg 4-aco-dmt on the tongue, unknown doses snorted and eaten of amt, loads of smoked dmt and at one point 5meo-dmt. didn’t feel a thing when i snorted just about 35mg 2c-b on top.. i was too far gone 😀 that was a full on psy exp.
September 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm

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@p0ly 497517 wrote:

I used the 1mg a min technique for t-7 and it worked out.

did 15mg in one go of 2c-i and it was the shittest trip ever with the worst nasal pain ever. 60mg sublingually / orally produced a fucking insane exp though…

i snorted 2c-b once but that was after 3 super potent tabs of acid, 20mg 4-aco-dmt up the nose, 20mg 4-aco-dmt on the tongue, unknown doses snorted and eaten of amt, loads of smoked dmt and at one point 5meo-dmt. didn’t feel a thing when i snorted just about 35mg 2c-b on top.. i was too far gone 😀 that was a full on psy exp.

I hate 2C-I with a passion as I said before. I still feel a bit uneasy just thinking about it. :/

That session sounds great. I’ve never tried AMT with another tryp. What was that like? I’ve been wondering if the mild MAOI effect (if there is any) of AMT would potenate the effects of other tryps 😀
September 28, 2012 at 4:17 pm

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@eye. 497535 wrote:

I hate 2C-I with a passion as I said before. I still feel a bit uneasy just thinking about it. :/

That session sounds great. I’ve never tried AMT with another tryp. What was that like? I’ve been wondering if the mild MAOI effect (if there is any) of AMT would potenate the effects of other tryps 😀

It was complete madness and I spoke to this super intelligent powerful godlike entity for a long time who was very wise… that’s just one part of it…!!

It was as psy as you can get to be honest, where you are believing things are factual which aren’t… gets you into some truly mental trippy spaces!
September 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm

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@p0ly 497537 wrote:

It was complete madness and I spoke to this super intelligent powerful godlike entity for a long time who was very wise… that’s just one part of it…!!

It was as psy as you can get to be honest, where you are believing things are factual which aren’t… gets you into some truly mental trippy spaces!

I know what im doing soon then 😉

I’ve read more on DPT. It sounds really interesting, kind of like a longer lasting DMT. Was thinking 25mg nasally would be a good starting dose and bump up another 25 every half hour until something happens as I read peoples dose can vary wildly. I’m going to prepare for it like i would a breakthrough DMT hit (as they the most serious psy experiences i’ve ever had.) Does this sound sensible to you?
September 28, 2012 at 4:46 pm

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It can give you these weird body vibration feelings, very heavy uncomfortable body load. I first tried 20mg and it wasn’t very nice, I had a slight trip but I just got uncomfortable body load.

I tried it again at around 30 and the same thing happened but worse, I got a taxi and bought some opiates and smoked them in the nearest pub toilet to ease the horrible body load.

Then last time I did it I sniffed about 5 grams of K over two days with Xanax and all I had left apart from more benzos was 90mg DPT… I thought fuck it and did the whole 90mg. AMAZING TRIP!!! something incredibly special about it!!

For the record that crazy combo trip I did was after a 3 day K binge… my first proper dmt breakthrough also was after a chronic k binge. it seems when you come off a lot of k it makes psys A LOT MORE POTENT.
September 29, 2012 at 8:17 am

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@p0ly 497545 wrote:

it seems when you come off a lot of k it makes psys A LOT MORE POTENT.

Just dissociatives in general enhance trips alot I find, when your coming off it or taking it before a trip.
September 29, 2012 at 10:41 am

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@p0ly 497545 wrote:

It can give you these weird body vibration feelings, very heavy uncomfortable body load. I first tried 20mg and it wasn’t very nice, I had a slight trip but I just got uncomfortable body load.

I tried it again at around 30 and the same thing happened but worse, I got a taxi and bought some opiates and smoked them in the nearest pub toilet to ease the horrible body load.

Then last time I did it I sniffed about 5 grams of K over two days with Xanax and all I had left apart from more benzos was 90mg DPT… I thought fuck it and did the whole 90mg. AMAZING TRIP!!! something incredibly special about it!!

For the record that crazy combo trip I did was after a 3 day K binge… my first proper dmt breakthrough also was after a chronic k binge. it seems when you come off a lot of k it makes psys A LOT MORE POTENT.

Im normally ok with bad body loads. If you’ve ever tried yopo (5-OH-DMT) most heavy body loads after that feel like nothing. Unless its worse, in which case I may need to think twice about it :S

I don’t really have much experience with dissoactives. I messed around with MXE a fair bit when I could get it £5 for 500mg but never combined it with another psy. I’ve done K about 2 hours after a 5mg bump of 2c-e, followed by another 10mg 2c-e. That was a little bit crazy, i was worried i’d broken reality for a while 😉

So yeah, i see where your coming from. I must experiment more ;D
September 29, 2012 at 2:09 pm

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@eye. 497622 wrote:

Im normally ok with bad body loads. If you’ve ever tried yopo (5-OH-DMT) most heavy body loads after that feel like nothing. Unless its worse, in which case I may need to think twice about it :S

I don’t really have much experience with dissoactives. I messed around with MXE a fair bit when I could get it £5 for 500mg but never combined it with another psy. I’ve done K about 2 hours after a 5mg bump of 2c-e, followed by another 10mg 2c-e. That was a little bit crazy, i was worried i’d broken reality for a while 😉

So yeah, i see where your coming from. I must experiment more ;D

Bufotenin (5-oh-dmt) seems to be a funny one and there’s a lot of speculation if it’s even a worthwhile or proper psychoactive chemical. but i won’t go into that because some people have said it worked for them.. though most say not (even very experienced people). But i’d probably say it is psychoactive but not really worth trying over DMT.

5-meo-dmt gives a fucking horrible body load.

Bromo-dragonfly gives a fucking awful body load and twitching face and muscle feeling which lasts for 25-30 hours at the dose i did… the trip can be 30-40 if you do enough. this was way worse than DPT but did it prepare me for the DPT body loads i first got? not at all. Nothing will prepare you for DPT, the trip is madness and like no other Tryptamine (feels a bit like DMT but the sinister version). I’ve heard of people people in this DPT world where demons are dancing around and they have become the demons vomit as they are constantly being thrown up out of the demons mouths the entire trip!! I haven’t dosed this high and this may of been IM administration. Most yanks swear by IM DPT but I don’t fuck around with needles.

I’d guess Bufotenin is very short lasting (depending on how you took it)… DPT lasts for 3-4 hours and is notorious for it’s body load.

One more thing some people react very badly to DPT at small doses, read erowid and you’ll see people on low doses tripping out so hard the only thing in reality they can see is their friends eyes and then they go into seizure and have to go hospital.

After I took it for that intense trip I had HPPD for 4-5 weeks. the first 2 weeks the visual impairment was still very strong. was it worth it? HELL YES. what did i learn? DO NOT TAKE THIS STUFF OFTEN AT ALL AND BE VERY CAREFUL.
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