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Hello everyone
I have a little question, what would happen to someone never tried Stimulants than went and take 90mg of Adderall xr
Bad call unless you’re pretty heavy weight wise, I remember taking 60mg (had 90mg available) of Adderrall (not XR) years ago with a healthier brain and little tolerance and I was speeding more than I needed to be. You can always add more but you can’t add less; so maybe start with less than 90mg and work your way up. XR are a lot different than the regulars though, they don’t hit you as hard or as fast.
that is a very high dose for someone without tolerance; and could be risky to someone who has any kinds of heart problems – some healthy folk who have taken similar doses have had unpleasant side effects and ended up in the Emergency Department; others have had panic attacks and other unpleasantness.
At the very least it is likely just to keep you awake for a few days and make you jittery/paranoid and utterly exhausted when you do eventually come down.
Also the XR formulation (extended release) does not deliver all the drug in one hit but over a slower period of time – opening up the capsules and crushing the contents into powder may defeat this.
But it is better to do this one capsule at a time.
When I first took pharm quality amfetamine (as long ago as 1988) one 5mg tablet (XR tablets might not have been invented then!) lasted for many hours…
I”m a hash addict and i used to smoke 3-5 grams a day, now only 1.5-2 so i thought i have the needed tolerance. i took the first around 2pm, second 8pm and the last at 10:30pm, i was smoking hash with it too.
I didn’t sleep but i remember i got concentrated about some google researches, when i looked at the hour it was 6:30 AM.. after around 10-11 hours of the last dose i had fever, stomache, diarrhea,shortness of breathing. i didn’t know what to do i got a little freaked out.. i took a pill of vitamine C and an aspirin, few minutes diarrhea and stomache dissapeard, few hours later fever got less but still have shortness of breathing, it’s not that i don’t breath at all but i feel it’s like not suffisant so i go a big inhale. i took some oxygene and a relax sulf.. i did sleep a little good that night. now it’s been 48 hours at least and i feel more good, even with some brathing short but iit’s a lot better. i will never take another one, i wanted to take one when i started to feel all the symptoms at first but i said this will get me even worse ( i thought of getting addicted )
Not by a doctor, i bought them from DW
I’m 6’1 – 70 kg
I’m skinny for that height
Hash and amphetamines have no cross tolerance, glad you’re okay; I remember after a crap experience with too much Adderall I thought I’d never take them again, now I take them daily, so you never know, I wouldn’t write them off for all time, just be careful.
I’m really glad too i’m ok, it’s been 72 hours now i feel better now and i’m sure i will not use them again… It’s just not good for me even with that 90mg i didn’t feel like i really want to accomplish something or anything like that.. Just the same except that speed of time
Have to say I meant to read and answer this days ago but as the brand name adderall confuses me I don’t know doses and whatnot but fuck, smoking weed and “other drugs” are not equivalent.
You would be a TOTAL FUCKING MORON to say, “I can smoke loads of bud so load that syringe full of heroin…..”.
I was exactly the same as you when I was young so please don’t think I’m being a twat but cannabis has never ever killed anyone in history and while the vast majority of substituted phenethylamines/amphetamines have kills very few people, that number is non zero and care must be taken
Adderall is a combination of various amfetamine salts.
It was not on the British National Formulary as of 2009, methylphenidate being preferred for ADHD treatment in juveniles (and usually in similar XR formulation to discourage recreational use/hoarding and diversion; About 10 years ago there was a big fuss in the North and Scotland about teenagers trading their spare meds to their age group and older people for mobile phone credit vouchers; it got combined with the paranoia over online grooming.
Very rarely the 1980s era “dexys” (SmithKline dexamfetamine sulfate tablets, 5mg instant relase) are prescribed for narcolepsy (potentially life threatening if untreated) and juvenile ADHD, adult treatment with either is “unlicensed” [not 100% sure what this means although I suspect it means a GP prescribing it has to be able to prove it is really required which is why adult ADHD often goes untreated and/or folk turn to “self-medication”.
The symptoms experienced by the OP are what I’d suspected might happen with an XR formulation but I am not a doctor and as I am also British am unfamiliar with this substance so thought it worth waiting to see what our American friends had to say.
(bear in mind the intended patients are both suffering from an unpleasant mental health condition and at an age when risk taking behaviour and attempts at self-harm are not uncommon; one reason for creating the XR formulation appears to be to discourage both recreational use reduce the risk of of a gross overdose.
it’s a cobination of the left and right isomers of amphetaine or something no? dexamphetamine and lis-dexamphetamine.
I seem to recall that dex is the active one and lis-dex is a byproduct that is basically impossible to get rid of giving a maximum purity of dexamphetamine of 74%.
No lis-dex, thats Vyvanse which is a pro drug, someone go find iliesse so that he can see that trypta got something wrong.
Adderall is 3/4 dexamphet (the right hand isomer) and 1/4 levoamphet (the left isomer).
As far as what GL said, yeah XR’s make overdose and abuse more difficult because of the formulation of the drug; not only would it take more Adderall to overdose with XR’s nobody wants to take that many XR’s cause the feeling isn’t particularly pleasurable. Its a bunch of wax coated beads inside a capsule instead of a tablet. Also ask anyone with any experience buying Adderall off a friend and they’ll tell you the tablets are much preferable to the capsules. To crush and snort a tablet just break it with any old thing, for an XR empty the capsule into a dollar bill, fold the edges and tape them shut then crush with the bottom of a lighter or a paperweight for a few minutes, untape the dollar bill and pour the contents out.
Hey ty very much for correcting me my friend :). Am always happy to be wrong when it means I get ti kearn what is right :).
@tryptameanie 979709 wrote:
it’s a cobination of the left and right isomers of amphetaine or something no? dexamphetamine and lis-dexamphetamine.
I seem to recall that dex is the active one and lis-dex is a byproduct that is basically impossible to get rid of giving a maximum purity of dexamphetamine of 74%.
and some other salts I didn’t even know existed; some with names sounding similar to aspartame and saccharin (the artificial sweeteners) which doesn’t even sound that good for you – TBH it could well even be almost as rough as USA street level gear…
Actua;lly GL, I think from readin that article you have become somehwta confused as many of those terms descriv=be just the 2 optical isomers but using different language to describe different aspects of the 2 isomers.
Only reason I know is cause I’ve been on ADHD meds for a good chunk of my life.
I get how GL got confused but what I’ve always heard as somewhat of an urban legend is they formulate Adderall such that it tastes sweet and those are the aspartame and saccharin salts but yeah its 3/4 dex and 1/4 levo isomers, this kinda keeps in line with what wiki is trying to say, but if you click the link for those salts it redirects to the ampeht or dexamphet main page.
Honestly we don’t have base in the USA, just a lot of diverted pharmaceutical stimulants and meth (which some folks would call base), and 100% Methamphetamine HCL would be noticeably stronger and probably cleaner than Adderall in some respects although they’ve done inpatient trial(s) and meth heads can’t tell the difference between regular amphetamine and methamphetamine.
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