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  • @tlegato 362225 wrote:

    well…

    When I drink, im crazy… I always go over the top when im out for a night. It makes my decision making process go out the window but more worryingly I can react aggresively to things which can be laughed at.

    So I don’t drink much ever now!

    However a good old blow out for a rave, bit of meow, bit of a smoke, maybe a e or two…

    nothing wrong with that now and again

    getting pissed up though!! fucking dangerous and could cost me so much in life i never want to loose!

    I think its strange that alcohol is probably the only thing that I can potentialy completely loose control on and its legal, i think the only other thing that puts you that out of it is K but your stuck in your arm chair at that point so you cant really do yourself or anyone else any harm. :laugh_at:

    That being said its good fun aslong as your sensible, i think a lot of people who do/ have experienced other drugs have a more sensible outlook on the stuff though, most people in this country seem to think getting rat assed 3 or 4 times a week isnt a problem.

    To answer your question, it’s sort of an ongoing process. God works things out throughout our lifetime, it’s not just bang I’m done (sometimes it can be but not usually in my case). He hasn’t taken away my desires for things totally yet; I have to choose to say no (choose to not sin) – and Holy Spirit is workin’ on me as far as the alc. goes. When I was in my 20’s I’d think nothing of having up to 6 Jack & Cokes and then driving home! :hopeless: Thank God nothing bad happened! Now it’s down to maybe 1-2 beers in the eve, just to relax – and if there’s no beer then that’s ok, I just go without. Now my hubby, on the other hand, just STOPPED – both drinking AND ciggs. It’s not gonna be the same for everybody.

    God can take away your desires? ahhaahhahhahaha that is pretty much messing with free will whether you are smart enough to see or just make out that you still have the choice to do it

    interesting statistics:

    The Alcohol Needs Assessment Research Report, published in November 2006, identified that £217
    million
    was spent in 2003-4 by Primary Care Trusts and local authorities to support alcohol treatment1 in
    England.
    In 2005/6 there were over a quarter of a million admissions to NHS hospitals in England for
    selected alcohol-related diagnoses (mental and behavioural disorders due to alcohol, alcoholic liver
    disease and toxic effects of alcohol). Hospital admissions for these diagnoses have virtually doubled
    since 1997.

    o Overall probably around 1 in 16 of all hospital admissions are for alcohol-related causes.

    o Alcohol-related diseases account for 1 in 8 NHS bed days (around 2 million) and 1 in 8 NHS day
    cases (around 40,000).

    o Up to 35% of all accident and emergency attendances and ambulance costs are alcohol-related

    o Between 12 midnight and 5am, 70% of attendances are alcohol-related

    o At peak times in A&E Departments,

    40% of all attendees have a raised blood alcohol level
    14% are intoxicated
    43% are problematic drinkers

    o Common reasons for alcohol-related attendance at A&E Departments include:

    violent assault
    road traffic accidents
    psychiatric emergencies
    deliberate self harm

    o In addition, 1 in 5 patients admitted to hospital for other reasons are drinking at hazardous levels.

    o In 1993 Dr. J. Chick reported that in urban hospitals in Britain 15-30% of male medical and
    surgical patients and 8-15% of women patients have alcohol problems.

    Between 1995-7, Marshal et al conducted a prevalence study of current substance misuse
    amongst acute general medical admissions in a London hospital. 20 per cent of admissions were
    identified as substance misusers; the majority (72 per cent) of the identified patients having an
    alcohol problem. 19 per cent were currently using illegal drugs and 9 per cent were poly drug users.

    http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/nhs.pdf

    @Tank Girl 362482 wrote:

    interesting statistics:

    http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/nhs.pdf

    depressing isnt it, society and even Jesus himself endorses one of the most harmful drugs on the planet.

    @1984 362483 wrote:

    depressing isnt it, society and even Jesus himself endorses one of the most harmful drugs on the planet.

    indeed,

    big up prof Nutt :love:

    http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus1714/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf

    for further reading….

    @amyberthelet 362396 wrote:

    To answer your question, it’s sort of an ongoing process. God works things out throughout our lifetime, it’s not just bang I’m done (sometimes it can be but not usually in my case). He hasn’t taken away my desires for things totally yet; I have to choose to say no (choose to not sin) – and Holy Spirit is workin’ on me as far as the alc. goes. When I was in my 20’s I’d think nothing of having up to 6 Jack & Cokes and then driving home! :hopeless: Thank God nothing bad happened! Now it’s down to maybe 1-2 beers in the eve, just to relax – and if there’s no beer then that’s ok, I just go without. Now my hubby, on the other hand, just STOPPED – both drinking AND ciggs. It’s not gonna be the same for everybody.

    so alcohol is wrong then, you’re just ironing out the creases

    well that’s fair enough, but why did Jesus drink wine at the last supper then if it’s wrong?

    @DJCliffy 362146 wrote:

    and fountains of cider to drink!

    raaa

    I have recently seen the light with regard to alcohol, guided by some old dudes with beards…

    I joined CAMRA :laugh_at:

    http://www.camra.org.uk

    Lol at camra GL you old bastard :love:

    I drink cider usually cos it’s tasty (got two bottles of jacques in the fridge actually woooo)

    @joshd96320 362589 wrote:

    Lol at camra GL you old bastard :love:

    I drink cider usually cos it’s tasty (got two bottles of jacques in the fridge actually woooo)

    There are actually loads of younger people in CAMRA these days, and they have a specialist section for real cider and perry.

    One of the problems with alcohol in the UK is that the way its marketed encourages excessive consumption of poor quality products….

    HELLO

    Got any links? You know mimimum joining age? :weee:

    yes, you have to be >18 to join CAMRA unless one of your family is a member..

    http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

    I am actually now legally obliged to remind you to drink sensibly and in the company of responsible people > 18 years old 😉

    (you are at least trying to drink proper stuff which is a good start. I’m sure half the stuff I drunk when your age is banned now under EU health and safety rules!)

    we need a campaign for more widely available white beer in london

    @Iacchus 362602 wrote:

    we need a campaign for more widely available white beer in london

    racist

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